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March 07, 2018, 05:10:13 AM

Somehow whenever I see an Economist talk I lose more respect for the bunch. And I'm quite fond of Economics in general, too bad it's infested with intellectual toddlers and liars.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/forget-100000-bitcoin-says-kenneth-rogoff-try-100-instead-2018-03-06

But if you call BTC a scam now and are correct, your economic cred will moon. Especially
in Finance or Economics or say a Professor of these.

If you are wrong and BTC thrives. Everyone will forget.

So FUD works. Win/Win.
Yeah it's a pretty sad state of affairs. People who can't reason out proper arguments should be banned from any sort of policy making.

I wonder if this is something that will keep existing or if it'll slowly wane off as people gain more access to information.

Seems like it could go both ways. On one hand it's pretty difficult to miss the hypocrisy, lies, and manipulation by certain figures. On the other hand, people at large don't even seem to be interested in figuring out how things work in our world.
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March 07, 2018, 05:11:29 AM

how low can we go...

17,200 USD is support level

It will bounce back.  We are just giving the weak hands a good shake.

Hairy, did you hodl all the way down?
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March 07, 2018, 05:18:18 AM

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise. 

because it was the top..
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March 07, 2018, 05:23:07 AM

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise. 

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   Grin
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March 07, 2018, 05:24:03 AM

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise. 

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   Grin

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.
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March 07, 2018, 05:30:59 AM

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise. 

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   Grin

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.
What's your definition of a whale?
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March 07, 2018, 05:32:47 AM

how low can we go...

17,200 USD is support level

It will bounce back.  We are just giving the weak hands a good shake.

Hairy, did you hodl all the way down?

I panic sold some at $13,500 and $10,500 on the way down. I FOMOed back in at $6500 and $8700 on the way back up.
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March 07, 2018, 05:33:25 AM

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

I am not trying to prove anything.  I am merely making a comment about the bullshit status of said scammer, craigwright.

It is not even worth discussing about Wright being a scammer in any kind of detail... His personality is not even close to consistent with the personality of Satoshi.

I don't have any kind of burden to show that Wright is not satoshi.. wright or any of his sycophants have the burden to show that he is, satoshi if that is what he or they want(s) to do.. ...

If Wright or his sycophants want to establish that Wright is satoshi, then we need solid evidence and logic to support such assertion, otherwise get the fuck out of here, because he is not .. he is just a scumball scammer, snake oil salesman, pretentious and pompous asshole... that seems fairly obvious from a large majority of his public appearances, and I could give a shit if he happens to be the nicest guy in the world in private, he has shown his low life status in a variety of public ways.
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March 07, 2018, 05:36:23 AM

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise.  

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   Grin.  

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.

Stop looking for a sorcerer, there are none.   Even the whales don't really know, even though they have better ability to know what they are going to do and what kind of effect what they are going to do might have on the price, but they do not know anything for sure, either.

 On a personal level, you merely have to pee pare ur selfie for both directions.  HELROW???  And that should not involve setting up an auto-suicide machine.   Tongue Tongue Roll Eyes
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March 07, 2018, 05:38:21 AM

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise. 

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   Grin

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.
What's your definition of a whale?

Going short and having enough coins to make it happen.
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March 07, 2018, 05:40:09 AM


Stop looking for a sorcerer, there are none.  You merely have to pee pare ur selfie for both directions.  HELROW???

I'm learning to prepare. But there are sorcerers. Don't kid your selfie.
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March 07, 2018, 05:45:46 AM

I panic sold some at $13,500 and $10,500 on the way down. I FOMOed back in at $6500 and $8700 on the way back up.

Well played. Cheers!
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March 07, 2018, 05:48:50 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
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March 07, 2018, 05:49:01 AM

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?
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March 07, 2018, 05:55:23 AM


Stop looking for a sorcerer, there are none.  You merely have to pee pare ur selfie for both directions.  HELROW???

I'm learning to prepare. But there are sorcerers. Don't kid your selfie.

Ok.  fair enough.. deny and use my own phraseology against me... .O.k  I can deal with that.

Let me see if I can reframe this matter, then?

I think that part of my point is that there is nothing wrong with brainstorming with others, and I believe that this forum can prove quite useful in that regard. 

So each of us has differing strategies, but ultimately you have to find a strategy that is tailored for yourself, and there seems to be a lot that Hairy berry is not telling you.  Sure, he panic sold and panic bought at two points that he determined pretty decent odds of which direction the price was going.  His gut instincts seemed to have paid off pretty well, but the fact that he is using the term "panic" buy/sell shows that even he recognizes that he was having to pull some last ditch measures and to kind of change his plans along the way.  So there is a bit of devil in the details and gut reaction and gambling involved in such a strategy.

O..k.  Sure, the more experience you have buying and selling, then the more that you are going to be able to make those kinds of hairy berry plays, and from what I recall, Hairy was not even playing with all of his holdings, but instead a decent portion.. .maybe 30%-40% or something?  Maybe you can clarify this Hairy Berry... but anyhow, he is not playing balls to the walls, and he is also not outlining all of the factors that's triggering him to make his seat of the pants (panic) decision, which by pure definition seems to have been a bit unplanned, ballparking and maybe even throwing darts at a board... wholy shit, Hairy!!!!!!!   Tongue
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March 07, 2018, 05:55:27 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.
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March 07, 2018, 05:56:20 AM
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I’m not a whale.   I joined too late, got involved in December 2013.  I believe in confirmed trends and not much else. I trade bitcoin very defensively so I only sold at most half my holdings and was watching to make sure the price did not break back up again. When it started breaking back up, I bought back in to cover my position.  

I don’t believe that whales can manipulate the price more than temporarily.  They can dump or buy at key inflection points but they are playing into what the market already believes.  And if you watch the order books you can sometimes see them signal with ghost walls before a pump / dump.  

As for what’s happening right now, market sentiment is currently balanced with a slight bearish lean and continuing to slowly degrade.  I’m not delighted about it but need to accept it.
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March 07, 2018, 06:04:54 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information
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March 07, 2018, 06:09:48 AM

...The prices are outrageously high.

By what measure?
It is not like there is a P/E or anything like that.
Another three-fourfold increase in difficulty (and it is coming maybe in a few mo due to new rumored miners) and mining would be roughly at breakeven.
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March 07, 2018, 06:27:43 AM

Some good news:  owner of the ASIC Boost patent has licensed it to the Blockchain Defensive Licence. 

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/there-bitcoin-patent-war-going-initiative-could-end-it/
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