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March 07, 2018, 06:42:39 PM
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Article from trustnodes.com - https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/03/07/mt-gox-crashed-bitcoin-trustee-sold-bottom-blockchain-data-reveals


MT Gox’s bitcoin addresses are well known as blockchain detectives spent months analyzing them. One such address shows 2,000 bitcoin held by the trustee were moved on December 18th.

On that very day, bitcoin’s price stood at $19,000, briefly fell to $18,000, then continued to fall in subsequent days:




On December the 22nd, the trustee moved 6,000 bitcoin. That’s the big red daily candle above labeled 2, sending price from nearly $16,000 to a brief low of $10,800.

It appears he gave some time for the market to recover, then on the 17th of January at 3AM he sold 8,000 bitcoins. Crashing the market again.

He then sells another 6,000 on the 31st of January, but the vast majority was sold on the 5th of February, 18,000 in total. Sending the price to its recent bottom from which it then went on to recover and nearly double as the selling finally stopped.

This suggests the trustee has sold it all on exchanges, rather than Off The Counter (OTC), sending price down some 75% by perhaps placing market orders.
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Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...


If you are 4 years in Bitcoin, you should be at least millionaire by now. Why are you discussing at crap level in the internet then? Just hire a hitman on that guy for pocket money Wink


This forum can be used as a means to discuss various strategies when it comes to bitcoin investing - looking at short term or long term price dynamics, and of course from time to time, people are going to differ in their opinion and their approach.. some will be more and some will be less profitable, including strategies that might start out with greater or lesser levels of capitalization.

Some folks participate in this thread because they are trying to create price effect, rather than merely reading the effects, and some folks here find that kind of behavior annoying.

My buying and trading of BTC strategy has been doing pretty well for me, but I am still ready, willing and able to learn from others, and willing to share information about my strategies and experiences, too...

I <3 your avatar text...


I am actually around 2 to 3% too, yet I think that I am creating a bit of a trick question with the concept of "needed" since there are so many alt coin pumpers who try to suggest diversification within crypto is "needed" .. but really they are frequently diluting their bitcoin holdings with a bunch of shit.

Exactly, as out of app. 500 billion cap of all crypto, BTC has app 170 billion share at the moment. Imagine all those alts weren't existed at all and BTC would be much more worth in value.

Would like to see that calc if someone can offer?

And one other thing, please don't throw up, saw somewhere ICO market cap is currently 9 billion (all above in $US)...
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March 07, 2018, 06:47:35 PM

We are still in Dante's Inferno guys as we clearly are some fuckin' early adopters here. For those of us who saw 100$ per Bitcoin or something this is nothing.
Listening Stairway to Heaven just about now.
Let the buyers buy and let the sellers sell.
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March 07, 2018, 06:49:21 PM

Article from trustnodes.com - https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/03/07/mt-gox-crashed-bitcoin-trustee-sold-bottom-blockchain-data-reveals


MT Gox’s bitcoin addresses are well known as blockchain detectives spent months analyzing them. One such address shows 2,000 bitcoin held by the trustee were moved on December 18th.

On that very day, bitcoin’s price stood at $19,000, briefly fell to $18,000, then continued to fall in subsequent days:

https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/bitcoin-price-march-7-18-1.png


On December the 22nd, the trustee moved 6,000 bitcoin. That’s the big red daily candle above labeled 2, sending price from nearly $16,000 to a brief low of $10,800.

It appears he gave some time for the market to recover, then on the 17th of January at 3AM he sold 8,000 bitcoins. Crashing the market again.

He then sells another 6,000 on the 31st of January, but the vast majority was sold on the 5th of February, 18,000 in total. Sending the price to its recent bottom from which it then went on to recover and nearly double as the selling finally stopped.

This suggests the trustee has sold it all on exchanges, rather than Off The Counter (OTC), sending price down some 75% by perhaps placing market orders.

Apart from sell indicated as #2, the chart seems to be uncorrelated to his sells.
Overall, that guy is a moron trader.
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March 07, 2018, 06:49:37 PM

Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
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March 07, 2018, 06:54:44 PM

Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
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You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on
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March 07, 2018, 06:56:24 PM

Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
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You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

I feel your pain my friend Grin
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March 07, 2018, 06:56:39 PM

Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
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You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

NOTE: When I get a GF (yeah, right) NEVER TELL HER ANYTHING ABOUT CRYPTO! (note to self)

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March 07, 2018, 06:58:03 PM

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Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...


If you are 4 years in Bitcoin, you should be at least millionaire by now. Why are you discussing at crap level in the internet then? Just hire a hitman on that guy for pocket money Wink


This forum can be used as a means to discuss various strategies when it comes to bitcoin investing - looking at short term or long term price dynamics, and of course from time to time, people are going to differ in their opinion and their approach.. some will be more and some will be less profitable, including strategies that might start out with greater or lesser levels of capitalization.

Some folks participate in this thread because they are trying to create price effect, rather than merely reading the effects, and some folks here find that kind of behavior annoying.

My buying and trading of BTC strategy has been doing pretty well for me, but I am still ready, willing and able to learn from others, and willing to share information about my strategies and experiences, too...

I <3 your avatar text...


I am actually around 2 to 3% too, yet I think that I am creating a bit of a trick question with the concept of "needed" since there are so many alt coin pumpers who try to suggest diversification within crypto is "needed" .. but really they are frequently diluting their bitcoin holdings with a bunch of shit.

Exactly, as out of app. 500 billion cap of all crypto, BTC has app 170 billion share at the moment. Imagine all those alts weren't existed at all and BTC would be much more worth in value.

Would like to see that calc if someone can offer?

And one other thing, please don't throw up, saw somewhere ICO market cap is currently 9 billion (all above in $US)...

I am not really against investing in various alts or ICOs; however, I think that one of my BIG beefs and motivation for my slogan is that a lot of peeps seem to get misled into some kind of crypto diversification approach right from the start of their investment, and they don't know shit about anything that they are investing into and just throwing wet noodles at the wall and hoping that some of them stick.

So, in fact, if you know how to focus, then you might be able to choose a few alts and do really well for yourself in the short term, but if you are blindly investing, and you don't really know, then it is likely better to start with dollar cost averaging into bitcoin first.  Study up on it, and maybe diversify later, if you believe it could be helpful to you, and probably not with a large percentage - but instead keeping the vast majority in bitcoin.

A lot will depend on the individual, including the extent to which the individual has traditional investments, and also age plays some role too, even though youthfulness should still not give a complete license to being overly risky (though youthfulness does allow for some additional risks with the understanding that you have more time to make up for any shortfalls that might happen with risky investments that did not turn out good - but the goal should still be attempting to invest in profitable assets when possible and to attempt to learn how to do it better for your own situation rather than an initial blindness that might be true for most crypto newbies). 
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Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
Now hiding Grin

You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

I feel your pain my friend Grin


Reminds me of this earlier thread of posts:

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Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
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You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

My gf does it all the time too....’Bitcoin is obviously over, let’s sell everything now’ ..... ‘We should have bought that house for xxxxx outright with no mortgage when it was over $19,000 each’

Fucking women....I tell her to STFU & relax because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy.
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March 07, 2018, 07:14:01 PM

Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
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You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

My gf does it all the time too....’Bitcoin is obviously over, let’s sell everything now’ ..... ‘We should have bought that house for xxxxx outright with no mortgage when it was over $19,000 each’

Fucking women....I tell her to STFU & relax because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy.

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March 07, 2018, 07:16:08 PM

Your gf was right. We all shoulda sodl at $19,000. We trololololed ourselves. Roll Eyes
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March 07, 2018, 07:21:08 PM

Google trends says the interest in "crypto" is 7x what it was this time last year: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=crypto


We need more grandmas and taxi drivers buying bitcoin.

Some might not like it, but bitcoin have no place for club mentality. For it to grow, it needs adoption, and to have adoption, it should not crash constantly, or it will scare people away from it.

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March 07, 2018, 07:24:04 PM

""""because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy"""   this is the biggest problem of all crypto

Selfish ego maniacs around  the world..  .... who are also present here with "legendary" acc.. 

Its just another "wallstreet" on stereoids. just another generation of psychopaths able to do everything for money without work.... now they sit in rooms in t-shorts

Crypto  is last chance for all this  ****   .. after will be only "bum bum"

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March 07, 2018, 07:29:14 PM

who is the retard buyin Viacoin lol

The interest in crypto is almost 0 right now

Ever notice when the tide goes out and all shitcoins are in a sea of red
on CMC, there’s always one solitary random shitcoin that’s green and up like 35%?
I guess today it’s Viacoin.
Yup..totally retarded.
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March 07, 2018, 07:29:47 PM

""""because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy"""   this is the biggest problem of all crypto

Selfish ego maniacs around  the world..  .... who are also present here with "legendary" acc.. 

Its just another "wallstreet" on stereoids. just another generation of psychopaths able to do everything for money without work.... now they sit in rooms in t-shorts

Crypto  is last chance for all this  ****   .. after will be only "bum bum"


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Wink
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We need more grandmas and taxi drivers buying bitcoin.

No, we really don't. Hasn't CNBC already done enough damage?
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March 07, 2018, 07:46:26 PM

No, we really don't. Hasn't CNBC already done enough damage?


Bitcoin was created to be a global currency. Deal with it.
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March 07, 2018, 07:47:08 PM

""""because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy"""   this is the biggest problem of all crypto

Selfish ego maniacs around  the world..  .... who are also present here with "legendary" acc.. 

Its just another "wallstreet" on stereoids. just another generation of psychopaths able to do everything for money without work.... now they sit in rooms in t-shorts

Crypto  is last chance for all this  ****   .. after will be only "bum bum"



There are people even more stupid than that. There are people that stupid that they don't have any bitcoins.
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