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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Isn't it good to retest support? I guess it was a successful test.

2 dips below 8500, and one below 8800.

I got a feeling Asia is sick of buying at this price...
maybe looking to find cheaper today... (3 times in a row) Angry
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I can’t think of anywhere you are more likely to die in a random hail of gunfire or be eaten by cannibals than being surrounded by 6,000 preppers.  

Take a yacht with food and medical supplies out into the Pacific. A monohull so you can take a knock down in a storm and pop straight back up again.

And literally be dead within 24-48 hours. Capsized, out of food, no water, and eaten by sharks.

Nah, I'd take my chances with the preppers. They'd be glad to give you food & water in return for hoeing the fields.
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Craefulgang, you wouldn't wanna spill your Covfefe
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What does #CRAEFULGANG mean?
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

What does #CRAEFULGANG mean?

It' a parody on hey hey heyyyy...bitconnnneeee...ctttt dude.
Aired on J. Oliver's show yesterday.

https://youtu.be/g6iDZspbRMg?t=987

followed by (where craeful is explained)

https://youtu.be/g6iDZspbRMg?t=1361
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

What does #CRAEFULGANG mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qtcDrv_xDs&feature=youtu.be
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I can’t think of anywhere you are more likely to die in a random hail of gunfire or be eaten by cannibals than being surrounded by 6,000 preppers.  

Take a yacht with food and medical supplies out into the Pacific. A monohull so you can take a knock down in a storm and pop straight back up again.

And literally be dead within 24-48 hours. Capsized, out of food, no water, and eaten by sharks.

Nah, I'd take my chances with the preppers. They'd be glad to give you food & water in return for hoeing the fields.

or if you are female...simply hoeing
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Isn't it good to retest support? I guess it was a successful test.

2 dips below 8500, and one below 8800.

I got a feeling Asia is sick of buying at this price...
maybe looking to find cheaper today... (3 times in a row) Angry

I have never been so sure in my life that bitcoin was going to go bullish early march. I was approaching 99% sure of my bullish sentiment. And I'm not usually wrong. I'm willing to admit when I dont know, which is often, but when I decide that I do know I have always been right. That kick in the teeth of being not just a little bit wrong but so extraordinarily 100% 180 degrees wrong sent me from the most bullish I have ever been to the most bearish. At this point I'm waiting for a retest of 6k atleast.

It really really really should have been off to the races from like the third of this month. This pullback should not have been as dramatic as it was...
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March 13, 2018, 12:49:41 AM

Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Isn't it good to retest support? I guess it was a successful test.

2 dips below 8500, and one below 8800.

I got a feeling Asia is sick of buying at this price...
maybe looking to find cheaper today... (3 times in a row) Angry

I have never been so sure in my life that bitcoin was going to go bullish early march. I was approaching 99% sure of my bullish sentiment. And I'm not usually wrong. I'm willing to admit when I dont know, which is often, but when I decide that I do know I have always been right. That kick in the teeth of being not just a little bit wrong but so extraordinarily 100% 180 degrees wrong sent me from the most bullish I have ever been to the most bearish. At this point I'm waiting for a retest of 6k atleast.

It really really really should have been off to the races from like the third of this month. This pullback should not have been as dramatic as it was...

You come off as such a wize soul.



NOT.


This above post demonstrates your nonsensical mud, and seeming inclination to talk your book -- -yeah right.. you went from the most bullish to the most bearish just a couple of weeks ago, and now you want to tell the world about your supposed enlightened transformation.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Get a fucking grip, book talker....  Tongue
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I can’t think of anywhere you are more likely to die in a random hail of gunfire or be eaten by cannibals than being surrounded by 6,000 preppers.  

Take a yacht with food and medical supplies out into the Pacific. A monohull so you can take a knock down in a storm and pop straight back up again.

Or a seastead. I'm starting to get excited here in French Polynesia about things moving forward on that front. Good things coming soon (tm).

Any pictures you are able to share would be welcome. Even if it’s only baguettes and palm trees.  

No baguettes and only shadows of palm trees...but this was my breakfast yesterday morning just outside of my bedroom.




And the sunset on the first day I moved in (before I started cleaning up the beach)


Cabin in the mountains is more my speed.



My baby is almost done! One more month or so.

Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Isn't it good to retest support? I guess it was a successful test.

2 dips below 8500, and one below 8800.

I got a feeling Asia is sick of buying at this price...
maybe looking to find cheaper today... (3 times in a row) Angry

I have never been so sure in my life that bitcoin was going to go bullish early march. I was approaching 99% sure of my bullish sentiment. And I'm not usually wrong. I'm willing to admit when I dont know, which is often, but when I decide that I do know I have always been right. That kick in the teeth of being not just a little bit wrong but so extraordinarily 100% 180 degrees wrong sent me from the most bullish I have ever been to the most bearish. At this point I'm waiting for a retest of 6k atleast.

It really really really should have been off to the races from like the third of this month. This pullback should not have been as dramatic as it was...

You come off as such a wize soul.



NOT.


This above post demonstrates your nonsensical mud, and seeming inclination to talk your book -- -yeah right.. you went from the most bullish to the most bearish just a couple of weeks ago, and now you want to tell the world about your supposed enlightened transformation.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Get a fucking grip, book talker....  Tongue


Is this a thread for talking about price predictions or a thread for circle jerking about the moon? Is that the only opinion I am allowed to have? BUY BUY BUY MOON MOON MOON.
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Isn't it good to retest support? I guess it was a successful test.

2 dips below 8500, and one below 8800.

I got a feeling Asia is sick of buying at this price...
maybe looking to find cheaper today... (3 times in a row) Angry

I have never been so sure in my life that bitcoin was going to go bullish early march. I was approaching 99% sure of my bullish sentiment. And I'm not usually wrong. I'm willing to admit when I dont know, which is often, but when I decide that I do know I have always been right. That kick in the teeth of being not just a little bit wrong but so extraordinarily 100% 180 degrees wrong sent me from the most bullish I have ever been to the most bearish. At this point I'm waiting for a retest of 6k atleast.

It really really really should have been off to the races from like the third of this month. This pullback should not have been as dramatic as it was...

What was your thesis for a March pump?

'Standard View'

BTC ran up 10,000%, a massive multi-year correction is then absolutely necessary. Given the increase in infrastructure and adoption the most likely effect is a shallower, longer winter. (The more something represents the entire system the slower it moves, economies move in decades long cycles, BTC could have month long cycles starting out. Lows around -75-80% off the ATH.


'Miracle 2013 style double top'

We ran out of new suckers, that is why the price stopped going up. Double top would need:

-New even larger wave of speculators. Coinbase was the #1 app, on TV every night, major exchanges in all countries with rich speculators. The next level up requires infrastructure that is years away at best
-Belief that 100k is possible. No one will pay 20 unless they think someone will pay 40, 40 buyer needs to believe in 80 buyer coming etc. A drop to 6k erodes this
-All the stuck bagholders have to get even or accept their losses, this places a huge ask capping any rallies
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Craefulgang, you wouldn't wanna spill your Covfefe

Who has summoned me?
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I was thinking in the specific sense of having to pay a fee in Bitcoin. Possibly as a substitute for POW.  I have not given it any real thought and it’s possibly full of holes, such as Sybil attacks.
Sybils willing to pay in bitcoin are OK, depending on the price:

Code:

(price < reward) ? NO_WAY                                                       # cheapskate!
(reward < price < reward + fees) ? likely_ok(reward, fees, shillprice) # fees almost free for everyone, I'm a shill!
(reward < reward + fees < price) ? likely_ok(reward, fees, shillprice) # a lottery? negative fees?


A funky alt, possibly.
Might have an actual use case, even if right now I couldn't figure one for the life of me.
Democratizing down the price of on-chain fees once rewards are hardly relevant?
Such a funkcoin might as well exist already, for all I know.
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What was your thesis for a March pump?

'Standard View'

BTC ran up 10,000%, a massive multi-year correction is then absolutely necessary. Given the increase in infrastructure and adoption the most likely effect is a shallower, longer winter. (The more something represents the entire system the slower it moves, economies move in decades long cycles, BTC could have month long cycles starting out. Lows around -75-80% off the ATH.


'Miracle 2013 style double top'

We ran out of new suckers, that is why the price stopped going up. Double top would need:

-New even larger wave of speculators. Coinbase was the #1 app, on TV every night, major exchanges in all countries with rich speculators. The next level up requires infrastructure that is years away at best
-Belief that 100k is possible. No one will pay 20 unless they think someone will pay 40, 40 buyer needs to believe in 80 buyer coming etc. A drop to 6k erodes this
-All the stuck bagholders have to get even or accept their losses, this places a huge ask capping any rallies

Honestly. I know this sounds stupid but intuition. I have been staring at bitcoin charts for 8 years now. It made a very solid looking bottom with very reasonable growth coming out of that bottom, a healthy and calm retracement down to about half of that run up then further upside that broke out past the last high. It's just what bitcoin charts have looked like to me when the bottom was in in the past. It looked like textbook - people are done freaking out so therefore we can resume the more general trend that is up. And ultimately I am a bull long term. So when ever people stop freaking out and cool their heads after a mania bitcoin tends to resume the general multi year bull trend.

I hope that made some sort of sense.
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March 13, 2018, 01:09:02 AM

Fabulous.  Keep them coming. How is your French?

I had 4 years of french in high school but that was about 20 years go...so I can get by but not conversational yet. Sold to some kid on localbitcoins who didn't speak any english. I was able to get through the sale without too much difficulty. Especially with google translate. Just enough for pocket money.
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What was your thesis for a March pump?

'Standard View'

BTC ran up 10,000%, a massive multi-year correction is then absolutely necessary. Given the increase in infrastructure and adoption the most likely effect is a shallower, longer winter. (The more something represents the entire system the slower it moves, economies move in decades long cycles, BTC could have month long cycles starting out. Lows around -75-80% off the ATH.


'Miracle 2013 style double top'

We ran out of new suckers, that is why the price stopped going up. Double top would need:

-New even larger wave of speculators. Coinbase was the #1 app, on TV every night, major exchanges in all countries with rich speculators. The next level up requires infrastructure that is years away at best
-Belief that 100k is possible. No one will pay 20 unless they think someone will pay 40, 40 buyer needs to believe in 80 buyer coming etc. A drop to 6k erodes this
-All the stuck bagholders have to get even or accept their losses, this places a huge ask capping any rallies

Honestly. I know this sounds stupid but intuition. I have been staring at bitcoin charts for 8 years now. It made a very solid looking bottom with very reasonable growth coming out of that bottom, a healthy and calm retracement down to about half of that run up then further upside that broke out past the last high. It's just what bitcoin charts have looked like to me when the bottom was in in the past. It looked like textbook - people are done freaking out so therefore we can resume the more general trend that is up. And ultimately I am a bull long term. So when ever people stop freaking out and cool their heads after a mania bitcoin tends to resume the general multi year bull trend.

I hope that made some sort of sense.

I see where you are coming from, winning in trading mean ruthlessly rational analysis, combined with understanding what move the market from first principles. I would have done enormously better if I applied my own principles better to my own trading. You should try to destroy every idea and 'feeling' you have from every possible angle. I think if you had tried this you would have seen the holes in your trading strategy sooner.
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I'll try to consider both UP or DOWN from the viewpoint of someone who got something at stake.

'Standard View'

BTC ran up 10,000%, a massive multi-year correction is then absolutely necessary. Given the increase in infrastructure and adoption the most likely effect is a shallower, longer winter. (The more something represents the entire system the slower it moves, economies move in decades long cycles, BTC could have month long cycles starting out. Lows around -75-80% off the ATH.


'Miracle 2013 style double top'

We ran out of new suckers, that is why the price stopped going up. Double top would need:

-New even larger wave of speculators. Coinbase was the #1 app, on TV every night, major exchanges in all countries with rich speculators. The next level up requires infrastructure that is years away at best
-Belief that 100k is possible. No one will pay 20 unless they think someone will pay 40, 40 buyer needs to believe in 80 buyer coming etc. A drop to 6k erodes this
-All the stuck bagholders have to get even or accept their losses, this places a huge ask capping any rallies

I'm bullish at heart too, and this is standard view indeed. The folloiwing is also reassuring.

Honestly. I know this sounds stupid but intuition. I have been staring at bitcoin charts for 8 years now. It made a very solid looking bottom with very reasonable growth coming out of that bottom, a healthy and calm retracement down to about half of that run up then further upside that broke out past the last high. It's just what bitcoin charts have looked like to me when the bottom was in in the past. It looked like textbook - people are done freaking out so therefore we can resume the more general trend that us up. And ultimately I am a bull long term. So when ever people stop freaking out and cool their heads after a mania bitcoin tends to resume the general multi year bull trend.

I hope that made some sort of sense.

But if it is true that a small minority can control the price by acting in a select mix of exchanges, we should try to figure out longer-term dynamics. The ever-hungry badger is a thing for fairy tales. He needs to rest, to digest, to heal, to reproduce - he can't eat all the time.

If a whole school of sharks wants to give another serious shake on the way up, I bet they can. I'd bet small, just as a hedge. That would make for a handsome premium to pay, but a black swan (or possibly just a gray one) could become a life-changing event. "No way I can really retire until the Foundation is set up" kind of life-changing.

Enriching thoughts? Bears, bulls, ratts, primates (including humans).
Bugs needn't bother, since we already know their opinion on the matter.
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

Isn't it good to retest support? I guess it was a successful test.

2 dips below 8500, and one below 8800.

I got a feeling Asia is sick of buying at this price...
maybe looking to find cheaper today... (3 times in a row) Angry

I have never been so sure in my life that bitcoin was going to go bullish early march. I was approaching 99% sure of my bullish sentiment. And I'm not usually wrong. I'm willing to admit when I dont know, which is often, but when I decide that I do know I have always been right. That kick in the teeth of being not just a little bit wrong but so extraordinarily 100% 180 degrees wrong sent me from the most bullish I have ever been to the most bearish. At this point I'm waiting for a retest of 6k atleast.

It really really really should have been off to the races from like the third of this month. This pullback should not have been as dramatic as it was...

You come off as such a wize soul.



NOT.


This above post demonstrates your nonsensical mud, and seeming inclination to talk your book -- -yeah right.. you went from the most bullish to the most bearish just a couple of weeks ago, and now you want to tell the world about your supposed enlightened transformation.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Get a fucking grip, book talker....  Tongue


Is this a thread for talking about price predictions or a thread for circle jerking about the moon? Is that the only opinion I am allowed to have? BUY BUY BUY MOON MOON MOON.

You are off base if you conclude that I am criticizing your comments based on their bearishness rather than their bullishness... Although you are correct that personally I likely have a greater tendency to focus on bear FUDspreaders rather than bulls who are trying to get folks to buy. 

Nonetheless, my attention to you and/or your recent posts is largely irrelevant and seems to be an attempt to detract substantive discussions towards me... ridiculous.

Of course, you can predict BTC prices and dynamics in whatever you want and using whatever evidence that you want.   And, people in this thread can point out deficiencies and biases in your predictions, which is what I have been doing regarding several of your recent posts in which you are referring to some supposed "ah ha" moment that you have come to at around (or perhaps nearly after) your selling of a decent stash of your bitcoin, and because of your supposed "ah ha" moment, that does not seem to be based on much of anything beyond some kind of bare assertion, you want to share those feelings with peeps reading this thread.

 What I am doing is asserting that your BTC price prediction (and assertion of current dynamics) seems largely based upon your having had sold a decent portion of your BTC and perhaps unsubstantiated emotions rather than any kind of meaningful evidence or logic, and my responses should allow you to respond to my criticisms, but seems that the best you can come up with is to assert the thread (including yours truly) is too diluted into bull circle jerk thinking.. blah blah blah.. . and without really substantiating any of your earlier assertions beyond that you had sold some BTC and you are hoping the prices go down, now. 

Sure, you could end up being correct that BTC prices go down from here, but could be more of a result of luck rather than any kind of meaningful insight that you have shared about your views of short-term BTC price dynamics.
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?

What does #CRAEFULGANG mean?

It' a parody on hey hey heyyyy...bitconnnneeee...ctttt dude.
Aired on J. Oliver's show yesterday.

https://youtu.be/g6iDZspbRMg?t=987

followed by (where craeful is explained)

https://youtu.be/g6iDZspbRMg?t=1361

Ya'know, those smug douchebags can mock and parody Bitcoin and crypto all they want. I'm sure Jamie Dimon and the big bank establishment is loving that shit, as it keeps the Average Joes away longer because they mock it, like Bitcoin and the whole space is just one big scammy joke, a short term fad that only idiots would get involved in. Mind fuck on Average Joe, mission accomplished.

But we'll have the last laugh alright... oh yes...
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