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April 24, 2018, 06:25:23 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
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April 24, 2018, 06:26:05 PM

Hitler did nothing wrong.

If we're going to blame anyone for the Axis defeat in WW2 and subsequent spread of Jewish Marxism infesting and destroying every 1st world nation on earth, the wops in Italy definitely dropped the ball.
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April 24, 2018, 06:27:55 PM

Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, I´ll sell mine.

I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too.

I thought that too. But it does not make much sense to me. Why not buy at the bottom at 6k? Instead wait and now buy at 9k.
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April 24, 2018, 06:30:00 PM

Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, I´ll sell mine.

I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too.

I thought that too. But it does not make much sense to me. Why not buy at the bottom at 6k? Instead wait and now buy at 9k.

Not everyone has perfect vision. It's rare that you make your moves at the exact bottom or top. Why did they sell on the way down anyway? A lot of that money thinks we are still going lower and so they will wait.
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April 24, 2018, 06:34:12 PM

As often the case with Bitcoin I'm surprised how it moves more rapidly then I would expect.   This is true in both directions but I always expect it to take longer upwards then it does.    My very short term view is price confirming above previous resistance, this is working its way through orders overhanging from the decline.     The Tide returning picking up the old bands of seaweed on the shore, not quite sure of that analogy but theres memory in the price is what we are encountering here.   I do rate this positively, I expect some pullback from 9277 but its just stepped over it




Everyone has been dancing around it..but its there like the proverbial elephant in the room. Orders of magnitude...you can say it..you can touch all day everyday and still not grasp its scope. I think its just a fundamental reality of being human. We haven't had the shock wave of the first one subside yet and we are well on our way into the second imho. 300 million looking to share 17 million or so coins..btfd is my advice.

You guys are just blinkered old farts.

Finally...respect.   Cheesy
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Random thoughts.

I dont know what you all are reading today but here are a couple topics I am reviewing. I am posting these because I believe strongly in the benefits of inter-disciplinary studies.

This first article deals with how you look at things and I thought it related quite well to the discussion about BTC and(I'll take the high road here, sigh) BCH. Quite a bit more in there but I liked this particular nugget.
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“something like a paradigm is prerequisite to perception itself. What a man sees depends both upon what he looks at and also upon what his previous visual-conceptual experience has taught him to see. In the absence of such training there can only be, in William James’s phrase, ‘a bloomin’ buzzin’ confusion.’”

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/should-quantum-anomalies-make-us-rethink-reality/#

The second article is about Hamilton's law and evolutionary processes. I thought it related to how the crypto space is evolving as a whole and the benefits of altruistic behaviors. Its a little more difficult to find causality here but what piqued my interest was the ability to recognize that your "picture" might not be complete with the formula you are currently using and by expanding upon it in unconventional ways can bring about unexpected breakthroughs.
 
https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-elusive-calculus-of-insects-altruism-and-kin-selection-20180410/

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Support building at $9.38k. The force is strong in this one. People will look back at this time in the future and say "Look there..that is what a Bull market looks like starting out".

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April 24, 2018, 06:34:15 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?

Hitler just did what Rothschilds told him to do. They (the Rothschilds) sacrificed their own jew people (just like America did with 9/11 to get into middle east, kill over 3 million humans, get all the oil and avoided that the petro dollar get replaced) to establish Israel. There was no other way to establish Israel. And it did work awesomely. Israel can do anything. And as soon as somebody says Israel is killing innocent civilists, the say "antisemit" and all is done.
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April 24, 2018, 06:35:09 PM
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Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, I´ll sell mine.

I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too.

I thought that too. But it does not make much sense to me. Why not buy at the bottom at 6k? Instead wait and now buy at 9k.

Who can know if its the bottom or not? It's called buying the bottom in retrospect, at the time its called catching a falling knife. You have to see some sign that the winds have changed. He waited a bit long probably but still "why don't you just buy the bottom" is a pretty unreasonable standard.
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April 24, 2018, 06:42:53 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?
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April 24, 2018, 06:54:41 PM

Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, I´ll sell mine.

I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too.

I thought that too. But it does not make much sense to me. Why not buy at the bottom at 6k? Instead wait and now buy at 9k.

If you're a long term bull, it doesn't matter when you buy I suppose but if you are trying to use technical analysis to your advantage, you should wait until there is confirmation of a reversal.  This normally takes place at certain levels that were previously reached which have now become resistance.  Once the price breaches that level and other indicators line up it's buy time.  

 Why aren't you asking why people didn't buy at 11k instead of waiting for 6k during the first major dip in Dec 2017.  How did you know that wasn't the bottom?


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April 24, 2018, 07:02:51 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....   
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?

no .... its like all they killed where that all criminals ? offcourse not , or all people that he intended to take out , offcourse not so many
random peoples, womans, children
but i stop here if you don't understand this ....than theres no further reason to talk about it and sorry HITLER talk just don't stand here..... or if he's the one that created BTC without us knowing we schouldn't mention him to much in here , many in here getting sick in the stumage with saying he didn't do ANYTHING wrong....
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April 24, 2018, 07:06:48 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....   
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?

no .... its like all they killed where that all criminals ? offcourse not , or all people that he intended to take out , offcourse not so many
random peoples, womans, children
but i stop here if you don't understand this ....than theres no further reason to talk about it and sorry HITLER talk just don't stand here..... or if he's the one that created BTC without us knowing we schouldn't mention him to much in here , many in here getting sick in the stumage with saying he didn't do ANYTHING wrong....
Are you of the impression that I was being serious? You call someone a nazi, you get nazi jokes. Your ire is better directed towards eddie.
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April 24, 2018, 07:09:19 PM

Hitler did nothing wrong.

If we're going to blame anyone for the Axis defeat in WW2 and subsequent spread of Jewish Marxism infesting and destroying every 1st world nation on earth, the wops in Italy definitely dropped the ball.

Speaking of military history, Hitler really fucked up Germany's chances of victory. Some things are better left to the generals.
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April 24, 2018, 07:09:43 PM
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Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?

Define criminal.
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April 24, 2018, 07:10:53 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?

Define criminal.
I like you  Grin

But it's depressingly simple. Anyone who does anything the state does not like.
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April 24, 2018, 07:14:20 PM

You guys are just blinkered old farts.
EOS is the future.
It says so right there in the whitepaper.

Whitepapers are bad, Mkay?  'Cause racism and stuff.  Only rainbowmulticulturalpapers can be referenced.
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Are you of the impression that I was being serious? You call someone a nazi, you get nazi jokes. Your ire is better directed towards eddie.
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didn't read it to good maybe only the ,he did nothing wrong.... my bad ,nothing to worry about
in the meantime BTC gogogo .   just as liverpool-as roma go football go

BTC green and good game can we get any better
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April 24, 2018, 07:16:43 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?

Define criminal.
I like you  Grin

But it's depressingly simple. Anyone who does anything the state does not like.
Like direct competition.
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April 24, 2018, 07:22:15 PM

Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
Hitler did nothing wrong.

mmm hitler is very easy ....
on an non ethical way he helped on science and a few things where we have advantage on after the war and his dead , BUT in big lines he did evrything wrong by just killing innocent...

but to say he did nothing wrong is just sick to say .... but everybody's own oppinion ....    
Define innocent.

few million criminals Huh?

but most of all children maybe  ,innocent enough?
Criminals are innocent?

Define criminal.
I like you  Grin

But it's depressingly simple. Anyone who does anything the state does not like.
Like direct competition.
Yes. We are literally rebels.
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April 24, 2018, 07:36:25 PM

So, we are approaching 10k... where are the rockets, trains, that kind of stuff?

I only see people talking about Roger's Cash. Do Roger deserves so much attention?


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meanwhile more Rogerings
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8el72n/the_bitcoin_foundation_a_supposedly_community/ [driven bitcoin advocacy group, has now been taken over by 'Bitcoin Cash' supporters]
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...The 'Bitcoin Foundation' has a substantial budget and a mandate to promote bitcoin in a positive light and to advocate for it with government regulators.

However, it has now been taken over by bcash supporters.

Roger Ver now controls numerous media outlets and is spending a huge amount of money spreading the lie that bitcoin cash 'is the real bitcoin'....
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oh and paypal founder expresses views https://www.recode.net/2018/4/24/17275202/bitcoin-scam-cryptocurrency-mining-pump-dump-fraud-ico-value
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@BitcoinAdvice_ 17h https://twitter.com/BitcoinAdvice_/status/988607628380200965
Bitcoin is Bitcoin. Bcash is Roger Ver’s vision of PayPal - centrally controlled and closed source proprietary code.
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