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And then Congress will make a law against road pirates, who are using Comcast’s private roads without permission. And we can all run a campaign on road neutrality and no one will listen

A good illustration why power of the state is not good.

I can’t argue with that. Also have learned something today which is that libertarians basically just want to be left alone. I had some sympathy for that even if I don’t agree with some of the outcomes.  So I apologize!
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Also have learned something today which is that libertarians basically just want to be left alone.

Libertarianism is a theoretical system that works on paper but is 100% invalid in the real world because it's impossible to function in a closed ecosystem (the current state of earth).  In practice, all libertarianism is is one moron campaigning for unilateral disarmament of whatever tribe or human settlement he lives in or was born into, while the odds of all potentially hostile external settlements doing the same thing at the same time is virtually zero.  You are in effect just opening the door to your civilization while rolling out a red carpet that says "come kill, steal, or enslave us".

Libertarianism literally is nothing more than a renamed version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  Whether you believe the protocols are fiction or non-fiction doesn't matter, they are 100% correct:

14. In any State in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign lord of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism.

6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism."

Many in the post-Ron Paul era - although probably unable to convey this reality in words - know this is subconsciously true and have moved on looking for better solutions, usually involving the only known functional frameworks of human existence over the last several thousand years - homogeneous, ethnocentric city-states (aka things like the alt-right).
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April 20, 2018, 10:37:43 AM

boom, it just touched 8499 on bitfinex!

edit: can we now go straight to 10k please?
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Also have learned something today which is that libertarians basically just want to be left alone.

Libertarianism is a theoretical system that works on paper but is 100% invalid in the real world because it's impossible to function in a closed ecosystem (the current state of earth).  In practice, all libertarianism is is one moron campaigning for unilateral disarmament of whatever tribe or human settlement he lives in or was born into, while the odds of all potentially hostile external settlements doing the same thing at the same time is virtually zero.  You are in effect just opening the door to your civilization while rolling out a red carpet that says "come kill, steal, or enslave us".

Libertarianism literally is nothing more than a renamed version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  Whether you believe the protocols are fiction or non-fiction doesn't matter, they are 100% correct:

14. In any State in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign lord of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism.

6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism."

Many in the post-Ron Paul era - although probably unable to convey this reality in words - know this is subconsciously true and have moved on looking for better solutions, usually involving the only known functional frameworks of human existence over the last several thousand years - homogeneous, ethnocentric city-states (aka things like the alt-right).

The struggle for individual freedom is a quality that unconsciously all will admire even those stomping all over it will have it in their hearts has a guilty secret. They will know in their soul they were wrong when the time to be judged. Might is right. There is nothing new in that. Throughout your life and struggle may see your nation be overcome by another even worse state. I don't like the thought of siding with a mighty facist movement to overcome some kind of slightly weaker other ideology.   So yes the struggle for your own freedom might be futile, it might make your own current bully of a state weaker and allow a stronger bully of a state to take over. But one bully is much the same as another. Read Animal Farm.

I liked Hairy Maclairy's view better. Its not easy to admit seeing the other side of a debate. Hats off.
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April 20, 2018, 10:46:52 AM

boom, it just touched 8499 on bitfinex!

Who would have guessed the most fraudulent exchange on the planet where no real humans even trade on for fear of being Gox'd would try and paint the tape higher with tethers printed from thin air.  The most inconvenient fact in bitcoin:  why can nobody point out why every single price movement in bitcoin must be initiated by Bitfinex and NEVER any other exchange that actually has any veneer of legitimacy?  The price is only allowed to be moved by the obvious scam exchange of the day whether it's Gox, Huobi, or Bitfinex.  Which begs the question, can the price of bitcoin actually go up WITHOUT fraud involved?
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April 20, 2018, 10:48:19 AM

Also have learned something today which is that libertarians basically just want to be left alone.

Libertarianism is pretty much just "do what the fuck you want as long as you don't hurt others"
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April 20, 2018, 10:48:39 AM

boom, it just touched 8499 on bitfinex!

edit: can we now go straight to 10k please?

Soon, very soon Smiley

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boom, it just touched 8499 on bitfinex!

Who would have guessed the most fraudulent exchange on the planet where no real humans even trade on for fear of being Gox'd would try and paint the tape higher with tethers printed from thin air.

Indeed. They're only slightly less fraudulent than the $US dollars "printed form thin air" which are driving the current stock market to Kingdom Come.

Take your pick Wink
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boom, it just touched 8499 on bitfinex!

Who would have guessed the most fraudulent exchange on the planet where no real humans even trade on for fear of being Gox'd would try and paint the tape higher with tethers printed from thin air.  The most inconvenient fact in bitcoin:  why can nobody point out why every single price movement in bitcoin must be initiated by Bitfinex and NEVER any other exchange that actually has any veneer of legitimacy?  The price is only allowed to be moved by the obvious scam exchange of the day whether it's Gox, Huobi, or Bitfinex.  Which begs the question, can the price of bitcoin actually go up WITHOUT fraud involved?

But the silver market is not manipulated? Why are you always on the wrong side of the trade?
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"Binance Takes Up Task to Offer Fiat to Crypto Pairs
The move of the exchange to Malta opened the theoretical opportunity, but now Binance renewed talks of adding a direct way to buy into crypto with fiat."


I suppose this will definitely impacts huge on the price of 1)BNB coin mainly 2) all other alts and Bitcoin in a slighty less amount.


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Fun Fact

It took a buy of ~ 1500 BTC to climb from 8250 to 8500 on Bitfinex.

But we are only 960 BTC away from 10.000 USD / EDIT: 910 BTC

(But I cannot check if the 1500 BTC wall was just pulled or really bought)
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Btw I think moderation is well judged. Some people post offensive shite, some people get offended. Its the spice of life that keeps it interesting. If this thread was only about observing walls noone would be here.

Except some people like to read this at work.

No good now every 3 pages is huge Nazi banners and images.

And that's aside of any keyword surveillance that might be happening.


I fall in the camp of not understanding why its here? but not quite to the point of ignoring people. I don't want a blinkered view on life.
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