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Question: Highest price we'll see in 2022:
50,000 - 7 (13.2%)
60,000 - 1 (1.9%)
70,000 - 4 (7.5%)
80,000 - 5 (9.4%)
90,000 - 3 (5.7%)
100,000 - 2 (3.8%)
125,000 - 11 (20.8%)
150,000 - 2 (3.8%)
175,000 - 2 (3.8%)
200,000 - 1 (1.9%)
225,000 - 3 (5.7%)
250,000 - 4 (7.5%)
275,000 - 1 (1.9%)
300,000 - 0 (0%)
>300,000 - 7 (13.2%)
Total Voters: 53

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I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

Puerto Rico is an attractive option. As long as you spend at least 183 days per year there, you can claim residency and pay almost no taxes. Puerto Rico is the only option as a tax haven for people who don't want to give up their US citizenship.
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April 16, 2018, 01:59:33 PM

Art.



Oh, i know her, she´s going to take your house, your car, everything, carefull  Smiley



This is what houses and cars are for.

At least, i get to drive them for a while  Smiley

Same with her.
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April 16, 2018, 02:12:30 PM

I once saw someone spray 2 cans of RAID on a giant roach, which did nothing.

I also got rid of a roach infestation using Harris famous roach tablets.
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I say we melt down some silver and pour over it. That should do the trick.




EDIT: So for much for that scam called the "Internet of Things" being secure:

http://www.businessinsider.com/hackers-stole-a-casinos-database-through-a-thermometer-in-the-lobby-fish-tank-2018-4

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April 16, 2018, 03:13:06 PM

Next 24h are critical Cool
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April 16, 2018, 03:58:35 PM

This is both hillarious and sad.

Roger when to a Blockchain conference in Tokyo (which had nothing to do with BCash) shake some hands made some pictures and claiming the BCash conference was a huge succes with so many BCash supporters.

Guys....what a dirty motherfucking lying scumbag..omfg man  Shocked Shocked

Here is one of the pictures from this sneaky snake..



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April 16, 2018, 04:01:21 PM

Next 24h are critical Cool


Better to put 72h this time.
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April 16, 2018, 04:02:37 PM

Karma's gonna come around hard on that fool
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April 16, 2018, 04:33:51 PM

Bitcoin == Gold 2.0

BCash == fool's gold 0.fail

Everyone should know the difference by now
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April 16, 2018, 04:34:33 PM

Next 24h are critical Cool
Seems like there is a 24h critical moment every day
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April 16, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
Merited by JimboToronto (1), Dunkelheit667 (1), fluidjax (1)

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7 simple steps to control your privacy:
—Quit Facebook
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—Destroy your smartphone
—Paint your face before going outside
—Write opt-out letters to each of the 4,000 data brokers
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—Move to a remote forest
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April 16, 2018, 05:31:10 PM

Tahiti seems nice. I'd have to confirm with Elwar. Are there dancing girls? Dancing girls is the only reason to go anywhere.

Dancing girls all the time. It is the main hobby of most females here.

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April 16, 2018, 05:33:55 PM

You can’t tax robots because the jobs aren’t going to “robots”, the jobs are going to software.  

The answer is to skill up in skills needed by the automation software industry.  If you cant beat them, join them.  

That might buy a generation. The problem situation, however, is looming large, near, and seemingly inevitable.
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April 16, 2018, 05:39:47 PM

Tahiti seems nice. I'd have to confirm with Elwar. Are there dancing girls? Dancing girls is the only reason to go anywhere.

Dancing girls all the time. It is the main hobby of most females here.


any more pics tho?
here i can't see the ... forest for the ... leaves
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April 16, 2018, 05:52:01 PM

You can take the foreign earned income exclusion which is about $102k if you are outside of the US for 330 days out of the year.

The thing is, that's different from capital gains tax...no exclusion there.

I have tried every avenue to turn my bitcoin capital into income. My original idea was to give/loan/etc. my bitcoins to a foreign company in Turks & Caicos (allows for a single owner of a company, 0% capital gains and income taxes).

But there is a law in the US where if you have over 10% ownership in a company and they sell any capital, you have to pay taxes on it as if you yourself sold that capital.

I considered a Charitable Remainder Trust that allows you to put your money into a trust with a certain amount going to a charity upon your death with the rest held by the trust and you can earn income from that. But with that you have to hand over control of all of that money to another entity to invest with no input from you. Part of your investment would be held for the charitable contribution.

Instead I am just hodling until the US collapses. I can cash out (spend) about $37k of my bitcoins each year and pay no taxes. I am a minimalist so that is plenty for me.

All true. But I been tellin' all y'all. Since years now. Puerto Rico. It's a place. Its citizens are US citizens. They pay no federal income tax.
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April 16, 2018, 05:52:50 PM

Giving up US citizenship for something like NZ citizenship is one obvious route. 

Sorry, no. You need to take the exit tax hit.
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I once had a Math teacher that insisted that linear functions are any line, not just straight lines. Not sure if he was retarded or if he just didn't like my attitude. Probably both.

To a geometricist, all lines are straight. If not straight, it is not a line, but a curve.

Or a function. You payz yo money, you makez yo choice.
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April 16, 2018, 05:57:50 PM

Thoughts on Bitcoin Black?
End to manipulation?

More free BTC from another forkcoin?
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April 16, 2018, 06:07:55 PM

I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat.  
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

Yup, 6 months here 6 there is pretty ideal. I've been doing perpetual summer for the better part of 20 years and its worked out very well.
Depending on the country, ownership of land or house can get tricky, especially in SE Asia it has a particular set of headaches. I prefer to rent/lease long term in Asia which also gives me the option to pick up and go much easier if needed and own in the countries which I have citizenship.    

Just looked out the window.
I envy your lifestyle.

Haha I see that your neck of the woods is ankle deep in shit.  Disgusting, really.  I was depressed by the 12C and fog here, but now I'm laughing a little.  thanks  Cheesy
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April 16, 2018, 06:09:00 PM

Thoughts on Bitcoin Black?
End to manipulation?
Removing scary wallet address’s that are a random string of numbers and letter.
Replacing wallet address with a phone number.
Replacing private key with fingerprint.
https://www.bitcoinblack.cash/why/

Education
Community based education
Eg. Differences in BTC & BCH, Intentions and implications of major news in the space.
Bringing manipulation to light.
We would like to draw attention to the most significant date in bitcoins history august first when the bankers bought bitcoin. Bitcoin forked into two bitcoins.

Deep down the roadmap
-Introduction of bitcoin black card
AI based atomic swaps to make it usable through the best exchange rate possible at the time of your tap purchase during the transition from fiat to crypto.
https://www.bitcoinblack.cash/about/

thoughts? here are my thoughts on your scamcoin
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