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April 24, 2018, 04:02:48 AM

Sorry if I came across a bit rude.
Np mate. It's all good.


Roger went full retarded.
Agreed...


I dont mind alt-coins but this is pure fraud.
As much as I wish it weren't the case, as much as I wish I could say "my bitcoin is the bitcoin and that is a fact" the question of which bitcoin is "the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

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April 24, 2018, 04:11:49 AM
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"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^
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April 24, 2018, 04:22:39 AM

They've been saying all year that institutions are getting into bitcoin.
They omitted that it is mental institutions.

WO thread is turning into a mental institution.


You must be new here.

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April 24, 2018, 04:23:25 AM

The thread has more trolls than a swedish bog.   Anyone here interested in btc price action?

You can be banned for that kind of talk.
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April 24, 2018, 04:29:45 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down and fails. It's like saying my mac and cheese recipe is the one true recipe and only mac and cheese that is maid with my recipe is REAL mac and cheese.
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April 24, 2018, 04:30:26 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

He was going so well at not being a troll too.  
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April 24, 2018, 04:30:31 AM

Sorry if I came across a bit rude.
Np mate. It's all good.


Roger went full retarded.
Agreed...


I dont mind alt-coins but this is pure fraud.
As much as I wish it weren't the case, as much as I wish I could say "my bitcoin is the bitcoin and that is a fact" the question of which bitcoin is "the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.



You already know the rebuttal to the bullshit that you are putting out there.

Sure, currently there may be some semblance of a dispute about "what is the real bitcoin" because there is opportunity to create confusion and to suggest that the one with the lesser market value is going to take over.  If one dominates, then 20 years down the road, the minority coin may have .1% of the market share, and they still might claim to be the real bitcoin, but they are not going to be under those circumstances, even if they still have a million or more supporters..
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April 24, 2018, 04:30:48 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down.

You sir, need to lay off the crack pipe
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April 24, 2018, 04:31:57 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

He was going so well at not being a troll too. 

No I am not trolling. I really do believe what I have said and it is a conclusion that I arrived at after significant contemplation.
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April 24, 2018, 04:33:20 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

He was going so well at not being a troll too. 

No I am not trolling. I really do believe what I have said and it is a conclusion that I arrived at after significant contemplation.

Well, you really need to see a doctor and get medicated for your condition then.
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April 24, 2018, 04:33:28 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down.

You sir, need to lay off the crack pipe

Well then make an argument for why your preferred fork is "the real bitcoin" that is not based in opinion or some sort of logical fallacy.
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April 24, 2018, 04:33:40 AM

If you have any doubt there are 100,000 nodes which will tell you which is the real Bitcoin.  
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If you have any doubt there are 100,000 nodes which will tell you which is the real Bitcoin.  

So if ver's fork had more nodes it would be the real bitcoin? Even though his ideas are total garbage?
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April 24, 2018, 04:34:33 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down.

You sir, need to lay off the crack pipe

Well then make an argument for why your preferred fork is "the real bitcoin" that is not based in opinion or some sort of logical fallacy.

Some things are self-evident
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April 24, 2018, 04:35:04 AM

"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down.

You sir, need to lay off the crack pipe

Well then make an argument for why your preferred fork is "the real bitcoin" that is not based in opinion or some sort of logical fallacy.

Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin.
This is the least complicated thing ever. Roll Eyes
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April 24, 2018, 04:39:41 AM

Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin.
This is the least complicated thing ever. Roll Eyes

Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid.

In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other.
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April 24, 2018, 04:40:47 AM

If you have any doubt there are 100,000 nodes which will tell you which is the real Bitcoin.  

So if ver's fork had more nodes it would be the real bitcoin? Even though his ideas are total garbage?

That’s what they call a necessary but not sufficient condition.
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April 24, 2018, 04:41:20 AM
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"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.

Someone give this man a deMerit^

I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down and fails. It's like saying my mac and cheese recipe is the one true recipe and only mac and cheese that is maid with my recipe is REAL mac and cheese.

You are trying to be too objectively analytical, which breaks down into retardedness.

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April 24, 2018, 04:44:53 AM

Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin.
This is the least complicated thing ever. Roll Eyes

Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid.

In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other.
Adding any kind of qualifier after "bitcoin" to mean BTC/XBT is unpopular round here. OK, call it religion if you will. In order to minimize conflict, it is advised to use BTC to designate the bitcoin that needs no additional words to be designated. There will be fewer terminological scuffles.
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April 24, 2018, 04:49:53 AM

If you have any doubt there are 100,000 nodes which will tell you which is the real Bitcoin.  

So if ver's fork had more nodes it would be the real bitcoin? Even though his ideas are total garbage?

That’s what they call a necessary but not sufficient condition.

So define your method of determining at which fork is "the real bitcoin" and show how it is in some way an objectively valid metric rather than just your opinion. If you throw on a half dozen other criteria than why are they the criteria that get to be used to determine which is "real"?

And answer me this. What if ver and his monstrosity totally took over the market and bitcoin core became a small group of hard core devotees? What if ver's monstrosity became even more centralized than our wildest nightmares but it still gained more and more support and almost everyone in the world was going along with it in every way including node count and what other metrics you want to use and everyone everywhere was calling it bitcoin? Would it then be the real bitcoin? Even though it was more like visa than the original vision of bitcoin? Or would the small group of core users be the real bitcoin?

Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin.
This is the least complicated thing ever. Roll Eyes

Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid.

In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other.
Adding any kind of qualifier after "bitcoin" to mean BTC/XBT is unpopular round here. OK, call it religion if you will. In order to minimize conflict, it is advised to use BTC to designate the bitcoin that needs no additional words to be designated. There will be fewer terminological scuffles.
I'm only doing it inside of this specific context, to make the argument more clear. I normally just say BTC to mean bitcoin core because, as I stated earlier, it is my opinion that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin.
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