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[jl2012]

I'm just speculating that most of the information is still there, that maybe only a few bits are wrong, or that something is bit-shifted, or whatever (again, not an expert). It seems much, much less computationally intensive to try to repair the key than crack a wallet blind.

The first few entire sectors of the drive are unreadable.

Shit, sorry man. Some kind of nasty hardware failure? I'd have thought the recovery guys could extract the data.

Yep, physically unreadable, even with cleanroom work. I've accepted the loss... If I really needed coins, it would be alot easier to hire someone to go beat the stolen ones out of pirateat40.

At this point I'm just holding onto the 5k I have left with an iron fist.

Would you mind publishing the address(es)? So I can add them to my provably lost bitcoin list: https://docs.google.com/a/ij.hk/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahdy3Je_nYdOdFVocm4yTzhZOW1waWd6SFJIVHUwYUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

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[mb300sd]

I'm way beyond messing with it anymore, if I ever find the drive, if i even still have it, its for sale to the highest bidder. I don't even know if I still have the recovery keys anymore, threw out a lot of papers when I moved.

[thezerg]

Recovery key doesn't help. The master key is encrypted with your recovery key and bootup usb. Thats the key used to decrypt the data, and its not stored anywhere except the drive itself.

I think I was one of the last ones to successfully withdraw from gox, thankfully pulled out all I needed to buy my house before the withdraw problems started.

Although it was at an average of $120/btc, missed the 266 bubble and this runup... Would have been way better off with a mortgage.

You can talk about sellers remorse in a couple of years.

Still got plenty more.

Besides, remorse is the 5000btc wallet lost to a corrupted bitlocker partition, or close to that lost to pirate.

Jesus Christ, I can't imagine.

Truly no way to recover that partition?

Sent it off to 4 data recovery companies. Almost all datas intact, but the bitlocker metadata (including master key) are corrupt... 256 bit AES key

I wouldn't give up if I were you.

Obviously you can't brute force a 256 bit AES key. But you MIGHT be able to brute-force an algorithm to fix whatever corruption happened to the metadata... I'm not an expert but at the very least it seems plausible.

For 5000 bitcoins, I'd hire an expert and get a few Amazon GPU clusters going. If you're not into the idea of trying out of pocket, maybe you'd be willing to crowdfund to give it a shot? I'd be interested.

Metadata dosen't matter too much, the key is part of whats corrupt. Would me far more cost effective to attempt to brute force the silk road coins

I'm just speculating that most of the information is still there, that maybe only a few bits are wrong, or that something is bit-shifted, or whatever (again, not an expert). It seems much, much less computationally intensive to try to repair the key than crack a wallet blind.

The first few entire sectors of the drive are unreadable.

keep the drive.  There's a big difference between "unreadable" by some temp college kid who just runs a program that reads the disk and repairs the FAT and unreadable when doing so would be worth $50M (for example).

[Vycid]

I'm way beyond messing with it anymore, if I ever find the drive, if i even still have it, its for sale to the highest bidder. I don't even know if I still have the recovery keys anymore, threw out a lot of papers when I moved.

PM me if you find it. You may have written off those 5000 coins, but I'm up for a challenge. Maybe we can make it a community thing.  

[bnjmnkent]

Recovery key doesn't help. The master key is encrypted with your recovery key and bootup usb. Thats the key used to decrypt the data, and its not stored anywhere except the drive itself.

I think I was one of the last ones to successfully withdraw from gox, thankfully pulled out all I needed to buy my house before the withdraw problems started.

Although it was at an average of $120/btc, missed the 266 bubble and this runup... Would have been way better off with a mortgage.

You can talk about sellers remorse in a couple of years.

Still got plenty more.

Besides, remorse is the 5000btc wallet lost to a corrupted bitlocker partition, or close to that lost to pirate.

Jesus Christ, I can't imagine.

Truly no way to recover that partition?

Sent it off to 4 data recovery companies. Almost all datas intact, but the bitlocker metadata (including master key) are corrupt... 256 bit AES key

I wouldn't give up if I were you.

Obviously you can't brute force a 256 bit AES key. But you MIGHT be able to brute-force an algorithm to fix whatever corruption happened to the metadata... I'm not an expert but at the very least it seems plausible.

For 5000 bitcoins, I'd hire an expert and get a few Amazon GPU clusters going. If you're not into the idea of trying out of pocket, maybe you'd be willing to crowdfund to give it a shot? I'd be interested.

Metadata dosen't matter too much, the key is part of whats corrupt. Would me far more cost effective to attempt to brute force the silk road coins

I'm just speculating that most of the information is still there, that maybe only a few bits are wrong, or that something is bit-shifted, or whatever (again, not an expert). It seems much, much less computationally intensive to try to repair the key than crack a wallet blind.

The first few entire sectors of the drive are unreadable.

Heh, one more order of magnitude in price and it will be worth getting your drive under a magnetic force microscope. Maybe you should just donate it to an MIT (or Northwestern University) materials science lab and  tell them they can keep half of the profits.

(I did my PhD at Northwestern - they are a top materials science research university, let me know if you need a connection)

5000 BTC is already approaching $2M USD... I doubt those labs charge that kind of money for consulting?

Hell, I bet a lot of schools would reciprocate in-kind if you donated an MFM module.

http://www.asylumresearch.com/Products/VFM2/VFM2.shtml

He hit the wrong button?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLxaVFBXbCk

[SheHadMANHands]

I'm just speculating that most of the information is still there, that maybe only a few bits are wrong, or that something is bit-shifted, or whatever (again, not an expert). It seems much, much less computationally intensive to try to repair the key than crack a wallet blind.

The first few entire sectors of the drive are unreadable.

Shit, sorry man. Some kind of nasty hardware failure? I'd have thought the recovery guys could extract the data.

Yep, physically unreadable, even with cleanroom work. I've accepted the loss... If I really needed coins, it would be alot easier to hire someone to go beat the stolen ones out of pirateat40.

At this point I'm just holding onto the 5k I have left with an iron fist.

Would you mind publishing the address(es)? So I can add them to my provably lost bitcoin list: https://docs.google.com/a/ij.hk/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahdy3Je_nYdOdFVocm4yTzhZOW1waWd6SFJIVHUwYUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Rubbing it in the wound..   

[ChartBuddy]

[Loaded]

PM me an email. I will purchase the drive.

[SheHadMANHands]

Double top or plow right through?

[Vycid]

Double top or plow right through?

Instinctively I want to say it's a double top. But the demand from China is unmistakable. Look at the order book trend...

We're going through.

[SheHadMANHands]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

[Vycid]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

The btcchina ATH is 2630¥, currently worth $431.75. Absolute insanity.

I've never seen arbitrage opportunities this big. You could drive a truck through bitstamp/btcchina. It's all so surreal.

[SheHadMANHands]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

The btcchina ATH is 2630¥, currently worth $431.75. Absolute insanity.

Ya, they just started going straight vertical..  

Gox lagged behind like 40 bucks for a while, then someone intelligent thought to dump in USD to trigger the sell off (since obv China was bubbling and awaiting a catalyst).

[solex]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

The btcchina ATH is 2630¥, currently worth $431.75. Absolute insanity.

I've never seen arbitrage opportunities this big. You could drive a truck through bitstamp/btcchina. It's all so surreal.

The massive and persistent arbs between the btc markets is proof positive that the fiat system is a dinosaur.

[ChartBuddy]

[SheHadMANHands]

Man, wish Bitfinex APRs weren't 200+% now..  insane.

We should tell so Bitcoin haters about Bitfinex, and how they can deposit some fiat and loan it to us idiots and make 50% APR easy..  They wouldn't need to ever even touch bitcoins!

[Vycid]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

The btcchina ATH is 2630¥, currently worth $431.75. Absolute insanity.

I've never seen arbitrage opportunities this big. You could drive a truck through bitstamp/btcchina. It's all so surreal.

The massive and persistent arbs between the btc markets is proof positive that the fiat system is a dinosaur.

True, though I think China's draconian remittance rules also have something to do with it.

It's also proof positive that big players with eyes on the Bitcoin ecosystem would prefer to hold the coins than exploit the enormous arbs.

Man, wish Bitfinex APRs weren't 200+% now..  insane.

We should tell so Bitcoin haters about Bitfinex, and how they can deposit some fiat and loan it to us idiots and make 50% APR easy..  They wouldn't need to ever even touch bitcoins!

Is Bitfinex truly considered trustworthy? 50% APR sounds good but it seems like every kind of financial market or scheme yet invented for Bitcoin has imploded one way or another.

[BitPirate]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

The btcchina ATH is 2630¥, currently worth $431.75. Absolute insanity.

I've never seen arbitrage opportunities this big. You could drive a truck through bitstamp/btcchina. It's all so surreal.

It went from 2100 to 2600 within a couple of hours though. Absolutely crazy. Everyone was screaming "sell". You know tops when you see them.

We're getting quite a bit of arbitrage from Westerners too; overseas wires are cheap and fast, but a limited resource.

[SheHadMANHands]

Is Bitfinex truly considered trustworthy? 50% APR sounds good but it seems like every kind of financial market or scheme yet invented for Bitcoin has imploded one way or another.

It is among traders.

APR's would be lower, if it weren't for people eating them up the second they're offered.

[Vycid]

Ya.. if wasn't for China, I'd say a lot of resistance again.  If China plows through though it'll prob be pretty uneventful.

I believe before this last "correction", China went as high as like $430 USD at one point.

The btcchina ATH is 2630¥, currently worth $431.75. Absolute insanity.

I've never seen arbitrage opportunities this big. You could drive a truck through bitstamp/btcchina. It's all so surreal.

It went from 2100 to 2600 within a couple of hours though. Absolutely crazy. Everyone was screaming "sell". You know tops when you see them.

We're getting quite a bit of arbitrage from Westerners too; overseas wires are cheap and fast, but a limited resource.

Could you share an effective strategy for Westerners?

I'm still under the impression that if I was to sell on btcchina, I'd be unable to recover my money. I have considered selling and waiting for the bubble to subside (and the arbs to trend back to zero), then exchanging back to BTC and into USD, but I'd much prefer a more direct system.