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[JayJuanGee]

it might be seen as distasteful

It would probably get you banned or suspended... Think of that.   

[jbreher]

You guys should be allowed to shoot your immigrants, its just not right.

They'd think twice then.

Yeah, they got alot of nerve being born on the other side of a line we drew in the sand and to want to get away from the shithole they found themselfs in.

Lawful shoot to kill on all sightings is in order!

Did not think of you both as idiots until now.... Shame.


So the arguments are now: Take a human life for passing an arbitrary line OR import a tiny fraction of another population and hope the problems in both countries gets magically better.

https://youtu.be/LPjzfGChGlE

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

That's a joke right?  

We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes.  We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape.  

Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them?  

You keep pulling shit out of your ass and trying to shove it down my throat.

You act as if I had stated that considering helping them or actively (trying to) do so shouldn't be allowed, which is false. None of that crap has anything to do with the argument though.


Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative.
Nobody is stopping you from helping others, and props to you if you're not just a hypocrite running your mouth and actually doing what you preach to others (which I doubt). But none of that has anything to do with the fact that energy invested in complaining is wasted energy.

Best case you will make people aware of a given problem, but if that was your goal there are vastly more efficient ways that won't cause other gullible people to just complain as well.

Simply denying they have a right to complain about their situation is detrimental to their cause. Deriding them is paramount to helping oppress them.

I may not agree with what you have to say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

But you should be aware of what repercussions your words may reap, if you are aware and still don't care then I will fail to listen although still acknowledge your right to speech. Even hate speech should be free although abhorrent, the problem is you can;t draw the line clearly, one mans hate is another mans reality.

My words would never reap repercussions if you weren't 100% illiterate.
I've stated a fact, if you use your own time on complaining about your situation instead of trying to improve it you will be in a worse situation than you would be otherwise. That's a simple and immutable fact. No arguing about it.

There are only repercussions if people like you or HM come along and make up different arguments on my behalf, which I have never made, and then try to portrait me as their own mental delusion.

You are either intellectually dishonest (didn't properly read and understand what has been said and filled the gaps with your own story, then refuse to accept the fact that you have done so), too mentally impaired to understand what I've said, or plain evil and a manipulator.

The argument that I've made has nothing to do with anything that you or HM made up when arguing back. You idiots are making up points of your own and pretending that they were mine.

Also, the only repercussions will be that you will be in a worse place in the future, as well as everybody who you claim to be trying to help. Your attitude is the precise and sole root of all problems in this world, regardless of which of the three reasons is responsible for your acts of twisting truth. You don't care about listening, you only care about making up arguments on other people's behalf and then pretending that you're the "good guy" by arguing against your own fairy tales. There will be no repercussions for me, because I understand very well that the overwhelming majority is evil, delusional, ego-tripping, or just plain retarded. If you however, act in real life as you do on here, you'll be the one eating shit when it proverbially hits the fan. Good luck with that.

[bitmover]

https://twitter.com/jespow/status/1088891647612481536

To be fair, the gold doesn’t belong to Maduro and the West should not assist him stealing it while Venezuela burns.

I’m sure the goldbugs are going conspiratard over it tho.

Centralization has its benefits.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.

Illiteracy is far too rampant for 2019.

"Spending time on complaining that could have been spent on finding incremental solutions is retarded/unproductive."

Last paraphrasing I'll do on this. Good luck with your blindfold if you still (apparently choose to not) get it though.


Spoilers: Advocating is not complaining. And slaves can't advocate for themselves if they're captive, so even attempting to make that argument proves that you didn't understand mine in the first place and were simply looking to make unpolitical life advice political. @HM

[becoin]

https://twitter.com/jespow/status/1088891647612481536

To be fair, the gold doesn’t belong to Maduro and the West should not assist him stealing it while Venezuela burns.

I’m sure the goldbugs are going conspiratard over it tho.

48 hours after US coup in Kiev during 2014 Ukraine's gold was flying on board of US military plane on its way to Washington. Its a fact not conspiracy!

[Biodom]

Bitcoin is flat here
Decided to install grin
Had little spare time


Weird stuff, got it working for now out of pure boredom^^.
Could be bitcoin's little brother (in time), mostly for spending; easier to scale, perhaps.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Clean up all your exif data?

First thing imgur does upon upload, IIRC, is blow away any provided exif data.

Is that a fact? Never uploaded anything on here because I was too lazy to bother with exif.

[jbreher]

Clean up all your exif data?

First thing imgur does upon upload, IIRC, is blow away any provided exif data.

Is that a fact? Never uploaded anything on here because I was too lazy to bother with exif.

I don't know whether it is a fact, but that is what imgur claims. And I've never seen such be credibly disputed.

[Olegya199]

48 hours after US coup in Kiev during 2014 Ukraine's gold was flying on board of US military plane on its way to Washington. Its a fact not conspiracy!

Where did you get this information? Are you sure she is of good quality?
I thought that the gold of Ukraine flew away to the United States during the 2005 revolution...

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Is this anti-wall or pro-WallStreet (#2)?

Are you equating immigrants to corrupt bankers and legacy finance and implying that much more drastic measures (such as war) are required to keep them at bay? You sick fucking Bitcoin maximalists seriously want to kill all immigrants just to make sure legacy finance won't succeed?




(Wouldn't normally do this, but since some people here like to make everything retarded and political, here's a mirror for that specific subset of people that like to twist everything beyond recognition.)

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

these don't go on the blockchain, right? some messaging system peculiar to the satellite thing?

Isn't it actually possible to send messages on-chain? And didn't Satoshi do just that? Or how do signatures work?


Would that be a potential attack vector? One Billion people sending just 1 kB of text would already be 1 TB worth of data. Do transaction fees just nullify that threat (if it exists in the first place)?

[kurious]

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.

Illiteracy is far too rampant for 2019.

"Spending time on complaining that could have been spent on finding incremental solutions is retarded/unproductive."

Last paraphrasing I'll do on this. Good luck with your blindfold if you still (apparently choose to not) get it though.


Spoilers: Advocating is not complaining. And slaves can't advocate for themselves if they're captive, so even attempting to make that argument proves that you didn't understand mine in the first place and were simply looking to make unpolitical life advice political. @HM

I don't think Jojo is at all illiterate, nor do I see your 'life advice' as unpolitical.  How can being so dismissive of other views by calling them illiterate, or dismissing advocacy on behalf of those experiencing modern slavery, as Hairy I recall was (which it is reasonable to say with some certainty does exist) come from anything but a dogmatic, if not patently political stance?

[ivomm]

So, I see the gap between exchanges is almost closed (a tiny bit over 1% - not enough for arbitrage trades). The multiple whiplashes from this week and even today show that BTC is heavily underpriced currently. Every bull run starts from somewhere. Bears, be aware, the bulls are coming!  

[StartupAnalyst]

So, I see the gap between exchanges is almost closed (a tiny bit over 1% - not enough for arbitrage trades). The multiple whiplashes from this week and even today show that BTC is heavily underpriced currently. Every bull run starts from somewhere. Bears, be aware, the bulls are coming! 

[jojo69]

You guys should be allowed to shoot your immigrants, its just not right.

They'd think twice then.

Yeah, they got alot of nerve being born on the other side of a line we drew in the sand and to want to get away from the shithole they found themselfs in.

Lawful shoot to kill on all sightings is in order!

Hello, I have a very important question!
Gentlemen, tell me honestly, who of you dropped this package??

I'll take that off your hands...for science

[Toxic2040]

1h

D

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

You guys should be allowed to shoot your immigrants, its just not right.

They'd think twice then.

Yeah, they got alot of nerve being born on the other side of a line we drew in the sand and to want to get away from the shithole they found themselfs in.

Lawful shoot to kill on all sightings is in order!

Did not think of you both as idiots until now.... Shame.


So the arguments are now: Take a human life for passing an arbitrary line OR import a tiny fraction of another population and hope the problems in both countries gets magically better.

WTF is happening in this thread? Did Roach finally get to you guys? Have feelings taken priority over logic? Just wow. Shame on WO for being this dumb.

I strongly believe global education systems are one of the root causes of this pandemic.

People get drilled into thinking in terms of "right vs wrong" and "the correct way to pass a test" from a very young age. And then they argue that way in real life (e.g. parrot talking points they perceive as correct) instead of listening and looking for real solutions.

[jbreher]

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.

Illiteracy is far too rampant for 2019.

"Spending time on complaining that could have been spent on finding incremental solutions is retarded/unproductive."

Last paraphrasing I'll do on this. Good luck with your blindfold if you still (apparently choose to not) get it though.


Spoilers: Advocating is not complaining. And slaves can't advocate for themselves if they're captive, so even attempting to make that argument proves that you didn't understand mine in the first place and were simply looking to make unpolitical life advice political. @HM

I don't think Jojo is at all illiterate, nor do I see your 'life advice' as unpolitical.  How can being so dismissive of other views by calling them illiterate, or dismissing advocacy on behalf of those experiencing modern slavery, as Hairy I recall was (which it is reasonable to say with some certainty does exist) come from anything but a dogmatic, if not patently political stance?

I believe that BTCMILLIONAIRE's characterization of illiteracy has to do with the fact that all the counterpoints to what BTCMILLIONAIRE has been writing have nothing whatsoever to do with what BTCMILLIONAIRE has actually been writing. The fact that the responses are so far afield from BTCMILLIONAIRE's written points displays an inability of the counterpointers' to actually comprehend what BTCMILLIONAIRE has written.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.

Illiteracy is far too rampant for 2019.

"Spending time on complaining that could have been spent on finding incremental solutions is retarded/unproductive."

Last paraphrasing I'll do on this. Good luck with your blindfold if you still (apparently choose to not) get it though.


Spoilers: Advocating is not complaining. And slaves can't advocate for themselves if they're captive, so even attempting to make that argument proves that you didn't understand mine in the first place and were simply looking to make unpolitical life advice political. @HM

I don't think Jojo is at all illiterate, nor do I see your 'life advice' as unpolitical.  How can being so dismissive of other views by calling them illiterate, or dismissing advocacy on behalf of those experiencing modern slavery, as Hairy I recall was (which it is reasonable to say with some certainty does exist) come from anything but a dogmatic, if not patently political stance?

I am not dismissive of others' views whatsoever. In this case people were constantly misrepresenting my words either through stupidity, laziness, or by deliberation.

You can try to show me at what point my quote becomes political, however, you will fail to do so without adding extra information that wasn't present in my words. Politics have nothing to do with this statement whatsoever, yet some people here are so caught up in political bullshit that they try to make everything so, and then argue from that position.

I treat people with the respect they deserve, and when they make my unpolitical statements political or make up arguments on my behalf and then try to write me off as evil I will react accordingly. Not because I care about their opinion, but because people who are too emotional or even stupid to realize their hypocrisy by themselves need to be shut down with their own weapons. Otherwise they clearly don't get it (as proven by the lengthy and multiple posts that I've made elaborating on their fallacies).

I don't even particularly care if the perpetrators in this case understand what the fuck they're doing. But some of the, possibly lurking, readers might find something they've missed previously. Such as dumb fucks making up arguments deliberately or for any other reasons on behalf of others and then either genuinely believing that they're doing something good, or acting as if they were. This is without a doubt the worst human quality plaguing society. Because real evil is often obvious when you see it, and is much easier to fight against than idiots who act nice and in reality just fuck everyone, including themselves, over.

Some of the issues described here (manipulation, omission, laziness, dishonesty) are used in Politics to manipulate, but they're fundamentally human errors and not political issues. If you see Politics in this that's on you, not on the content of my post.


At the end of the day people, made an unpolitical post political by making up random horseshit scenarios that didn't even fit my statement in any shape or form beyond sharing a word or two. But by that line of reasoning you're all Hitler and Jews.
Not sure why it takes a roman to point out what should be obvious: Don't twist people's words if you're going to bother engaging in a conversation (of course unless you have some weird ulterior motives, then good luck with that).


tl;dr

I believe that BTCMILLIONAIRE's characterization of illiteracy has to do with the fact that all the counterpoints to what BTCMILLIONAIRE has been writing have nothing whatsoever to do with what BTCMILLIONAIRE has actually been writing. The fact that the responses are so far afield from BTCMILLIONAIRE's written points displays an inability of the counterpointers' to actually comprehend what BTCMILLIONAIRE has written.

+1 WO