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[jbreher]

The galling thing is that the underlying base protocol was intentionally crippled in order to implement LN. The fact that such crippling wasn't even necessary only adds insult to injury, and calls into question the motives and wisdom of those who advocated for such.

In order to build on the basic protocol, fixing transaction malleability was long overdue. It could have been done some other way, right. Or things could have been left broken, as is the case for some shitcoins.

'Fixing malleability' was a gratuitous change that claimed to resolve something that was an absolute non-issue. It was the manner in which it was accomplished, and the other changes bundled into The SegWit Omnibus Changeset that were the true evils.

From my perspective, malleability was not an instance of broken-ness.

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[jbreher]

Again, you have no fucking idea. Without the work I have done over the last few decades (and continue to do), your computer -- the one you are using right now, be it phone, laptop, workstation, or mainframe -- would operate differently than it does today. From moments after flipping the power switch until shutdown, there is a piece of my brain that your computer is utterly dependent upon.

It's the second time you mention that - so far as I'm aware.
We can agree that you are smart.

Don't want to dox you or anything, but I would like to know something more specific than that if possible.
Care to elaborate?

No. Some have figured it out. Chissakes, it ain't that opaque.

[jbreher]

jbreher is a cunt.

And by such measure, the level of WO discourse is elevated.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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Bitcoin Could Push Higher In The Coming Days

Long-Term Crypto Bulls Still Star-Struck

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[nutildah]

Again, you have no fucking idea. Without the work I have done over the last few decades (and continue to do), your computer -- the one you are using right now, be it phone, laptop, workstation, or mainframe -- would operate differently than it does today. From moments after flipping the power switch until shutdown, there is a piece of my brain that your computer is utterly dependent upon.

It's the second time you mention that - so far as I'm aware.
We can agree that you are smart.

Don't want to dox you or anything, but I would like to know something more specific than that if possible.
Care to elaborate?

No. Some have figured it out. Chissakes, it ain't that opaque.

If you hadn't have done your God's Work I can assure you somebody else would have, so settle down over there, Edison.

You sound like a real Craig Wright. No wonder people suspected you of being him (I mean, outside of your incessant shillery for Bcash then SV).

Like Wright and other members of this forum who think they are so high and mighty, you are so insecure about your own intellect you have to remind the world how important you are every chance you get.

How's the band going btw?

[JayJuanGee]

The galling thing is that the underlying base protocol was intentionally crippled in order to implement LN. The fact that such crippling wasn't even necessary only adds insult to injury, and calls into question the motives and wisdom of those who advocated for such.

In order to build on the basic protocol, fixing transaction malleability was long overdue. It could have been done some other way, right. Or things could have been left broken, as is the case for some shitcoins.

'Fixing malleability' was a gratuitous change that claimed to resolve something that was an absolute non-issue. It was the manner in which it was accomplished, and the other changes bundled into The SegWit Omnibus Changeset that were the true evils.

From my perspective, malleability was not an instance of broken-ness.

Water under the bridge, jbreher.

Those changes happened nearly a year and a half ago through overwhelming consensus.

If you want to attempt to undo those changes, then you are likely going to need to muster up a similar level of support against such changes that took them to pass, which is NOT going to happen.

So go off to your happy shitcoins such as bcash sv and bcash abc and play around with your stupid-ass omnibus non-change sets there.

[JayJuanGee]

jbreher is a cunt.

And by such measure, the level of WO discourse is elevated.

Your ongoing assertion of irrelevant troll/shill bcash pumping and bitcoin bashing topics does seem to more firmly establish your cunt status.. and it is not a good cunt it is a bad cunt.   

[infofront]

jbreher and the bcash SV shitcoin crew.




We are followings God's (satoshis, lol) vision hahaha.

Who needs one of those new motorized carriages? Just keep it simple. We can always keep adding more horses.

[kenzawak]

Tesla nails it again. My cookies are now more safer.

Hmmm cookies...

[yefi]

Again, you have no fucking idea. Without the work I have done over the last few decades (and continue to do), your computer -- the one you are using right now, be it phone, laptop, workstation, or mainframe -- would operate differently than it does today. From moments after flipping the power switch until shutdown, there is a piece of my brain that your computer is utterly dependent upon.

Ugh. Are we on The Apprentice trying to impress Lord Sugar here?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Hmmm cookies...

Fire it up! What is taking too long LOL

[jbreher]

If you hadn't have done your God's Work I can assure you somebody else would have, so settle down over there, Edison.

Go fuck yourself.

Yes, it is true that, had I not done so, some other would have. But I did. If some ignorant nobody is going to attack me with a slanderous claim of tech luddism, I am going to put them straight.

Incidentally, why do you feel compelled to comment upon this, which has absolutely nothing to do with you whatsoever?

[600watt]

Oopsie daisy

yep... hunters gonna hunt. best thing ever that can happen to a government authority: unlimited pool of easy prey.  

[nutildah]

Who needs one of those new motorized carriages? Just keep it simple. We can always keep adding more horses.

^^^
This is brilliant and deserves to be merited and quoted in a larger size.

SV with 16 HP:



Bitcoin with Lightning:



We may still be around 1910 as far as car comparisons go, but you get the drift...

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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Bitcoin prices are trending higher, up 8.1 percent in the last week
Elon Musk says Bitcoin and crypto is brilliant for value transfer
Transactional volumes high, behind recent higher highs

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/02/20/bullish-bitcoin-btc-inch-close-to-4500-as-tech-leader-says-it-is-better-than-paper-money/

[Ibian]

If you hadn't have done your God's Work I can assure you somebody else would have, so settle down over there, Edison.

Go fuck yourself.

Yes, it is true that, had I not done so, some other would have. But I did. If some ignorant nobody is going to attack me with a slanderous claim of tech luddism, I am going to put them straight.

Incidentally, why do you feel compelled to comment upon this, which has absolutely nothing to do with you whatsoever?

So what is it you did? Let's just get it out of the way, this is stupid drama.

[hisslyness]

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead.

I beg your pardon ?

Lightning IS Bitcoin.

Lightning transactions are not on chain, so they are therefore not Bitcoin transactions. So if LN txs are not Bitcoin txs, it follows that ...

I'm not trying to claim that LN is useless. It will likely have benefits for some limited applications. But to pin BTC's future on it when simpler methods were available... smh.

Going to have to pull you up on that one mate... LN Opens and Closed channel onchain. therefore they are BTC transactions.

Just no. The opening and the closing are Bitcoin transactions. All the in-channel transactions are NOT Bitcoin transactions. Sorry. This should be obvious.

On another note, i don't know why people are discounting LN. This is some awesome development/technology. What you see now may be different in 5 -10 years from now, there alot of smart people with forward thinking minds.

I'm only 'discounting' LN against the absurd claims made for it. As a layer 2 protocol, I'm completely whatevs with whatever all y'all want to do with a layer 2 thingy. The galling thing is that the underlying base protocol was intentionally crippled in order to implement LN. The fact that such crippling wasn't even necessary only adds insult to injury, and calls into question the motives and wisdom of those who advocated for such.

We will see which "peer to peer payment" system will survive in 30 - 40 years from now.

I think we will see that having such a massive database was the death of BCH.

BTC without Layer 2 Scaling has more of a chance!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I think we will see that having such a massive database was the death of BCH.

I am happy with it.

[nutildah]

If you hadn't have done your God's Work I can assure you somebody else would have, so settle down over there, Edison.

Go fuck yourself.

Yes, it is true that, had I not done so, some other would have. But I did. If some ignorant nobody is going to attack me with a slanderous claim of tech luddism, I am going to put them straight.

Incidentally, why do you feel compelled to comment upon this, which has absolutely nothing to do with you whatsoever?

I just notice that certain people in this forum engage in this exact same behavior. They truly believe they are God's gift to mankind and are better than everybody else, so much so that they need to constantly remind others of this. I'm pretty sure its a neuropsychological problem or some deep-seeded behavioral issue, so its not really your fault. Just interesting identifying patterns in human behavior.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

^^
I guess you guys need to chill a bit 🙂
Enjoy the evening. May be watch Champions League if interested in football.