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February 19, 2019, 05:38:03 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

But moving from pow to pos reduces the security and decentralization and therefore lowers the value of the tokens. The logical move would be to sell ETH if you own it.
PoS is a secure method and has been proven we have all seen this, this is a shitty argument. On the flip side I see mainstream investors knows of Bitcoin and Ethereum and also seeing POS as a dividend like system and this leading to an increase in investors buying.
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February 19, 2019, 05:39:52 PM


Lastly, Bitmain reportedly had to sell 500,000 BCH over Q3 and Q4 2018 to cover losses.[/tt]

Really? I would have imagine BCH would tank way harder with such a huge sell, there can't be that much liquidity there. Did he manage to find a sucker to buy it in an otc deal or something? :/
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February 19, 2019, 05:42:46 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

But moving from pow to pos reduces the security and decentralization and therefore lowers the value of the tokens. The logical move would be to sell ETH if you own it.
PoS is a secure method and has been proven we have all seen this, this is a shitty argument. On the flip side I see mainstream investors knows of Bitcoin and Ethereum and also seeing POS as a dividend like system and this leading to an increase in investors buying.

What? Lol no. Ethereum will get more and more centralized, if they adopt pos, and as a result lose security. Distribution is an indispensable property of bitcoin (and ethereum never had enough of it to start with).
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February 19, 2019, 05:50:40 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

But moving from pow to pos reduces the security and decentralization and therefore lowers the value of the tokens. The logical move would be to sell ETH if you own it.
PoS is a secure method and has been proven we have all seen this, this is a shitty argument. On the flip side I see mainstream investors knows of Bitcoin and Ethereum and also seeing POS as a dividend like system and this leading to an increase in investors buying.

What? Lol no. Ethereum will get more and more centralized, if they adopt pos, and as a result lose security. Distribution is an indispensable property of bitcoin (and ethereum never had enough of it to start with).
POS will only increase the nodes which will in turn increase decentralization. Right now everyone just mines it or throws it on a hardware wallet.
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February 19, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
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Good morning all.


I am sure many of you are saying now what? Well, that is a good question and I think the answer involves some sideways action. We have clearly broken out of the downwards bear channel yet are still below the blow off top downward trend line of 2017. I believe the next couple of months will be navigating around this area until inertia drives us into and over this line. #dyor and buy the dips.

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February 19, 2019, 05:54:44 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

But moving from pow to pos reduces the security and decentralization and therefore lowers the value of the tokens. The logical move would be to sell ETH if you own it.
PoS is a secure method and has been proven we have all seen this, this is a shitty argument. On the flip side I see mainstream investors knows of Bitcoin and Ethereum and also seeing POS as a dividend like system and this leading to an increase in investors buying.

What? Lol no. Ethereum will get more and more centralized, if they adopt pos, and as a result lose security. Distribution is an indispensable property of bitcoin (and ethereum never had enough of it to start with).
POS will only increase the nodes which will in turn increase decentralization. Right now everyone just mines it or throws it on a hardware wallet.

I tried to run a ethereum node about 2 years ago and it was a nightmare. Downloading and verifying the blockchain took ages compared to bitcoin. that was 2 years ago, I don't want to know how long it will take now.
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February 19, 2019, 06:03:14 PM

Coinbase Acquires Blockchain Analytics Startup Neutrino

United States cryptocurrency exchange and wallet Coinbase has acquired blockchain intelligence startup Neutrino, according to a post published on the company’s blog on Tuesday, Feb. 19.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-acquires-blockchain-analytics-startup-neutrino

https://blog.coinbase.com/welcoming-neutrino-to-coinbase-b3f56171850d
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February 19, 2019, 06:11:41 PM
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Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

But moving from pow to pos reduces the security and decentralization and therefore lowers the value of the tokens. The logical move would be to sell ETH if you own it.
PoS is a secure method and has been proven we have all seen this, this is a shitty argument. On the flip side I see mainstream investors knows of Bitcoin and Ethereum and also seeing POS as a dividend like system and this leading to an increase in investors buying.

What? Lol no. Ethereum will get more and more centralized, if they adopt pos, and as a result lose security. Distribution is an indispensable property of bitcoin (and ethereum never had enough of it to start with).
POS will only increase the nodes which will in turn increase decentralization. Right now everyone just mines it or throws it on a hardware wallet.

I tried to run a ethereum node about 2 years ago and it was a nightmare. Downloading and verifying the blockchain took ages compared to bitcoin. that was 2 years ago, I don't want to know how long it will take now.

Ethereum blockchain size is currently about 2TB. Nobody is running full node with few exceptions mainly institutional eth bagholders. This altcoin is already dead. Move on, nothing to see here.
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February 19, 2019, 06:12:21 PM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity.

I will take the bet of 1 LTC that the bottom was $3122 on above terms or whatever else makes sense!

just catching up here and we can sort it. gimme few minutes
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February 19, 2019, 06:14:07 PM

Binance's  DEX testnet version is out, you can try it here :

https://testnet.binance.org/

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February 19, 2019, 06:19:11 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

But moving from pow to pos reduces the security and decentralization and therefore lowers the value of the tokens. The logical move would be to sell ETH if you own it.
PoS is a secure method and has been proven we have all seen this, this is a shitty argument. On the flip side I see mainstream investors knows of Bitcoin and Ethereum and also seeing POS as a dividend like system and this leading to an increase in investors buying.

What? Lol no. Ethereum will get more and more centralized, if they adopt pos, and as a result lose security. Distribution is an indispensable property of bitcoin (and ethereum never had enough of it to start with).
POS will only increase the nodes which will in turn increase decentralization. Right now everyone just mines it or throws it on a hardware wallet.

I tried to run a ethereum node about 2 years ago and it was a nightmare. Downloading and verifying the blockchain took ages compared to bitcoin. that was 2 years ago, I don't want to know how long it will take now.

Ethereum blockchain size is currently about 2TB. Nobody is running full node with few exceptions mainly institutional eth bagholders. This altcoin is already dead. Move on, nothing to see here.

That's a $20 used drive on eBay, I'm going to try running one. I keep hearing how difficult it is but I want to see first hand.
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February 19, 2019, 06:20:14 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

This has been said for forever, still nothing. I doubt anything will change.
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Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

This has been said for forever, still nothing. I doubt anything will change.

LOL.
POW is where workers rule.
POS is where rent seekers rule.
You can never create sustainable economy where rent seekers rule!
Ethereum was created as a coin of the people that don't understand monetary theory by the people that don't understand monetary theory for the people that don't understand monetary theory!
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February 19, 2019, 06:42:54 PM

Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

This has been said for forever, still nothing. I doubt anything will change.

LOL.
POW is where workers rule.
POS is where rent seekers rule.
You can never create sustainable economy where rent seekers rule!
Ethereum was created as a coin of the people that don't understand monetary theory by the people that don't understand monetary theory for the people that don't understand monetary theory!


Yep.

"Arbeit macht frei."

"Work is worship."

"Work work." -Orc Peon

If the product isn't backed by work, it is worthless...

PoS is no any different than owning many real estates and renting them away.

But...

If nobody works... who'll fucking rent the houses??

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! Stewpid vitalik.

PoS = RE bubble = ponzi

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February 19, 2019, 06:45:21 PM
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Probably because ETH is moving from a POW (proof of work) to a PoS (proof of stake) consensus algorithm with a minimum of 32 ETH required to stake, and a lot of people are buying it at these low prices so that they can start staking soon

This has been said for forever, still nothing. I doubt anything will change.

LOL.
POW is where workers rule.
POS is where rent seekers rule.
You can never create sustainable economy where rent seekers rule!
Ethereum was created as a coin of the people that don't understand monetary theory by the people that don't understand monetary theory for the people that don't understand monetary theory!


I have to agree, who needs another oligarchy when we have the central banking system? Plus you realize the big Ethereum stakers are all ERC20 ICO Poop Coin issuers.
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February 19, 2019, 06:49:57 PM

Let's add more shit throwing in here, I'm going to just buy a $28 240gb SSD and run a pruned full node as it still verifies everything. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. I'll toss it on a high speed dock and sync up.
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February 19, 2019, 06:50:16 PM

Bitcoin contributes 95% of Bitpay's business.

From advocating bCash now making a U turn. The market has spoken.

https://bitcoinist.com/bitpay-bitcoin-95-business-ceo/
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February 19, 2019, 06:50:54 PM

re: The bottom is in bet.
HairyMaclairy bets that it is.
Last of the V8s bets that it is not.
One litecoin.
I'd rather only bet against Hairy, but thanks for the offers @kurious, @arriemoller.
I'd want no upper limit as was suggested, as I think it could fluctuate higher than that and still come down lower.
Bitstamp low of 3122.
If Bitstamp becomes unavailable, how about preev, bitcoinaverage? some other named exchange?
I'd want a year just to keep it simple, though I do think it could happen later than that (3.7% likelihood for JJG).
Would be happy to send my litecoin to escrow if needed.
Payment in btc equivalent is acceptable. No one actually wants the shitcoin itself.
If that's agreeable...

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February 19, 2019, 06:54:27 PM

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February 19, 2019, 06:54:53 PM

re: The bottom is in bet.
HairyMaclairy bets that it is.
Last of the V8s bets that it is not.
One litecoin.
I'd rather only bet against Hairy, but thanks for the offers @kurious, @arriemoller.
I'd want no upper limit as was suggested, as I think it could fluctuate higher than that and still come down lower.
Bitstamp low of 3122.
If Bitstamp becomes unavailable, how about preev, bitcoinaverage? some other named exchange?
I'd want a year just to keep it simple, though I do think it could happen later than that (3.7% likelihood for JJG).
Would be happy to send my litecoin to escrow if needed.
Payment in btc equivalent is acceptable. No one actually wants the shitcoin itself.
If that's agreeable...



Quoted. Good luck guys (I secretly want HM to win though as I can't bear another downward spike).
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