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Question: 8/16 Closing Price (yeah, it's a Sunday):
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<$10,500 - 2 (33.3%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 0 (0%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 0 (0%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 1 (16.7%)
$12,000-$12,500 - 2 (33.3%)
>$12,500 - 1 (16.7%)
>$20,000 - 0 (0%)
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February 19, 2019, 06:52:28 AM

You can now send Bitcoin tips over Lightning on Twitter Smiley

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the beta app Tippin has released a new Chrome Extension available to Google browser users. Over Twitter, app users can send bitcoin payments via the Lightning Network, considered a way to make bitcoin transactions feasible at a large scale for the first time

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-send-bitcoin-tips-over-lightning-on-twitter


Jack dorsey does not fuck around... whoaza... that was quick.

That is exactly the incentive I need to set up an LN node.  

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

just do it. every WO hat should run a lightning node. I ordered mine last week. was considering to publicly announce that everytime a fuckin´big blocker posts in the WO thread I will order a casa node.

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead. Bitcoin Network no longer needed, lets just stop legacy support now and and its done with it.


bitcoin maximalist and LN hater?
yeah, let´s stop fucking around with layer 2 scaling solutions. stick to layer one, fuck scaling. oh, and let´s go back to internet layer 1 protocol. plain text is enough, who needs those cat pics anyway, screw youtube!
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February 19, 2019, 06:55:24 AM

You can now send Bitcoin tips over Lightning on Twitter Smiley

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the beta app Tippin has released a new Chrome Extension available to Google browser users. Over Twitter, app users can send bitcoin payments via the Lightning Network, considered a way to make bitcoin transactions feasible at a large scale for the first time

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-send-bitcoin-tips-over-lightning-on-twitter


Jack dorsey does not fuck around... whoaza... that was quick.

That is exactly the incentive I need to set up an LN node.  

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

just do it. every WO hat should run a lightning node. I ordered mine last week. was considering to publicly announce that everytime a fuckin´big blocker posts in the WO thread I will order a casa node.

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead. Bitcoin Network no longer needed, lets just stop legacy support now and and its done with it.


bitcoin maximalist and LN hater?
yeah, let´s stop fucking around with layer 2 scaling solutions. stick to layer one, fuck scaling. oh, and let´s go back to internet layer 1 protocol. plain text is enough, who needs those cat pics anyway, screw youtube!


A bitcoiner is against turning the true nature of bitcoin, into whats becoming core-centric, commercialised network crap.
Bitcoin was born to get away from that crap of centralist capitalism, and yet stupid people want it to bcome the same crap as what was available before 2009.

Deburden the bitcoin network. by promoting other networks, altcoins, central services is not a Bitcoiner.

LN is just the same as 0 confirmation on Bitcoin network, instant and same level of trust, 
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February 19, 2019, 06:56:37 AM

I'd like to run a LN node. Initial funding will come from some small profits I made in the current wave of volatility. I have the latest bitcoin client (Core  0.17.1) running on Linux. Which LN client do you think is the best choice at the moment?

Depends on what do you want to achieve. If you just need to make some payments via lightning every now and then, just go for a lightning wallet. If you want to run a node, provide liquidity to the network, process payments on a large scale - I would agree with BobLawblaw and suggest LND. Based on experience we had with it for more than a half year it proved to be more robust and stable implementation in comparison to c-lightning and ACINQ/eclair.
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bitcoin maximalist and LN hater?
yeah, let´s stop fucking around with layer 2 scaling solutions. stick to layer one, fuck scaling. oh, and let´s go back to internet layer 1 protocol. plain text is enough, who needs those cat pics anyway, screw youtube!

He is not a bitcoin maximalist. He is a bcash(craig) shill. Put him on ignore and be done with it.
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February 19, 2019, 07:01:25 AM

Bleh... Unconvinced until $4000+


Snap out of it, bitserve.



u  r ruinin' dee paump moo.

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(I hope) We will eventually come there. In the meantime, I stand my ground Smiley
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February 19, 2019, 07:03:32 AM

bitcoin maximalist and LN hater?

Hes a troll.  Ignore him.  

Edit:  mindrust beat me to it
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February 19, 2019, 07:58:19 AM

I was seriously considering proposing a "WO Lightning Channel Crew" thread - discuss making public and private channels between ourselves. Discuss game theory, etc.

Ultimately recognized it would not be possible to do so without breaking OpSec due to needing to expose an IP. Not willing to risk that, at this time.

I don't use TOR for performance reasons.

VPN. No performance issues there - should you choose a good provider. OpSec check.
Nice idea. It would motivate me to run a node I've been thinking forever.

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February 19, 2019, 08:03:20 AM

Micg=happy woke up semi early/late but right into Some green-ish fields

Work out - coffee time breakfast - Flip Some burgers - poker sesh

Can almost put that on rinse and repeat


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February 19, 2019, 08:26:26 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
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I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come
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February 19, 2019, 08:31:02 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?
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February 19, 2019, 08:40:52 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
yes

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.
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February 19, 2019, 08:49:12 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
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I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.

casa already released the code, didn't they? https://blog.keys.casa/open-sourcing-the-casa-node/
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February 19, 2019, 08:56:08 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
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I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


That looks sweet. I am not a techie so LN has looked too much set up thus far, but this looks 'turnkey' enough for my tastes - plus it's a full BTC node, so I do my bit for the network.

On my wish list, will wait until it's not three weeks delivery (which implies stocks are low / out of stock).



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February 19, 2019, 09:04:35 AM

$300 for a raspi and an HDD!?!?!  son of a bitch, I'm in the wrong business
yes

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

suggest research the nodl https://www.nodl.it/
more money but more features and more to come


Anyone here have one of those casa hodl nodes?

I mean, what is stopping to replicate the software and run it on your own raspi+hdd?

Does it include some state of the art proprietary software like a gui/menu system for easy management or what?

I am ok with business doing business, of course, but I am surprised anyone haven't already come with a full free software implementation otherwise the premium for the convenience of a "ready-to-go" device wouldn't be so high.

casa already released the code, didn't they? https://blog.keys.casa/open-sourcing-the-casa-node/

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In order to improve security for Casa customers we plan to open source as much of our trust-critical code as possible.

As a first big step, today we are open sourcing the code for the Casa Node. We are also announcing the first parts of a responsible disclosure and bug bounty program.

It looks like that "open sourcing" is something relatively recent starting two weeks ago and also that it is not clear if it will include ALL software. That would explain the current premium.
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February 19, 2019, 09:12:48 AM
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The only way too lose money buying in the $3000's is by not HODLING long enough. Any downside to $2000 - $4000 range will look like perfect entry on the chart 2 years from now. Write this down.

https://twitter.com/22loops/status/1097660571078529024?s=21
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February 19, 2019, 09:16:04 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity.
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February 19, 2019, 09:20:18 AM

Going to break 4k, are we?

Didn't we already do that a month or so ago?
I fail to see the wow factor in that, just normal volatility.
It's because we're showing more evidence of it reversing.

Nah, it's too early for that, we have several more months sideways to look forward to.
I'll be glad if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

I would say you are both right and wrong Wink

We have bottomed and yes we have several more months of sideways.

pish tosh

I would say you are both right and wrong.

You are right about the sideways.

But there's plenty of room yet for a stab down to the dark side.

I'd even prefer it that way.

I'll bet you a litecoin?

I will take it if Hairy won't.

I will wager 1 LTC we have already seen the bottom of this bear market.  That is, it will not go lower than 3122.

Suggest period of wager is until Dec 31 2019, or we go over 7500 on Stamp in USD (or under 3122) - whichever is sooner?

Edited for clarity!

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February 19, 2019, 09:21:15 AM

~megasnip

I don’t know whether it somehow affected the price of BTC, but now I only want to wear a hat much more . Roll Eyes

Sunglasses would look nice on this avatar.. even though maybe a bit difficult to see... like those sunglasses in sample 3.
Yes, I think they would match Rocket.

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February 19, 2019, 09:23:32 AM

You can now send Bitcoin tips over Lightning on Twitter Smiley

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the beta app Tippin has released a new Chrome Extension available to Google browser users. Over Twitter, app users can send bitcoin payments via the Lightning Network, considered a way to make bitcoin transactions feasible at a large scale for the first time

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-send-bitcoin-tips-over-lightning-on-twitter


Jack dorsey does not fuck around... whoaza... that was quick.

That is exactly the incentive I need to set up an LN node.  

I've been strongly considering buying one of the new easy-mode LN devices like the Casa Hodl.

just do it. every WO hat should run a lightning node. I ordered mine last week. was considering to publicly announce that everytime a fuckin´big blocker posts in the WO thread I will order a casa node.

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead. Bitcoin Network no longer needed, lets just stop legacy support now and and its done with it.  Mining, a proven way of work done, and given value to Bitcoin, lets deviate from it.

Yes.. you are speculating to the extreme by arguing a supposed scenario that is NOT happening.  The existence of lightning and support for its transactions does not result in the disappearance of the main btc blockchain nor the negation of incentives on the main blockchain.
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