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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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February 20, 2019, 03:20:09 PM

UBS fined €3.7b for laundering in tax fraud, as always nobody is going to jail. Undecided

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47305227
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February 20, 2019, 03:21:03 PM

Suddenly $4000 wall on bitstamp...
We will smash through it, $4,000 will be ours soon enough.

thats WO spirit, have another beer my friend Smiley

Above $4,000 & staying above $4,000 soon, I hope. Little by little the bears are losing their grip on this market.

last evening I had to miss the LFC game, we were playing and the host ain't no football guy.... he had some politics on his TV ....
pity they stuck @0-0
looking forward this evening (hope juve to F*** up ATL-M)

yeah bro, let us penetrate 4K territory !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but please PAGE PARITY NOW!!!??
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February 20, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
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BTC art.
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February 20, 2019, 03:31:16 PM
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[jbreher] So this bcash shill, big block fanboy who tries to tell naive folks in bitcoin forums they should abandon their valuable btc and buy this scammy shitcoin is still around here? Either completely masochistic or - much more likely - paid shill. I wonder how many of those who believed the ongoing misleading, scammy posts of this shill have lost money because they bought worthless bcash.
and even after all his arguments are proven to be misleading/false, even after loosing all the battles, even after the split, even after complete defeat, he still comes back in here and keeps shilling with the same lame arguments that weren´t true the first few rounds. shame on this guy. doesn´t seem to have even the slightest trace of honor in him. very sad. why the fuck he isn´t posting in bcash forums, why here? paid. disgusting.

i dont recall jbreher ever saying to dump btc for bcash_lol, at least here in WO. he has made a choice based on his understanding of the protocols and potential advantages. hes well aware of the potential use cases of each. and hes one of the smarter people here and at least understands both sides.

now, i dumped my bcash_lol except for a small amount im to lazy to do anything with. im a 100% believer btc.

please note im not defending jbreher, he is perfectly capable of defending himself fine. i just think your post comes across as crass, misleading and generally unbecoming of a WO participant.


Uhh... notice that jbreher comes in here, claims to actually have more BTC than BCash, but NEVER has anything *good* to say about BTC. Or about Bitcoin development. Never.

Never ever.

On a BITCOIN WO thread.

That alone should tell you everything about his intentions.

Paid. Shill.

Or just a fuckwad troll.

Take your pick.

Bigblocker Jbreher is part of the bCash cancer. As it happend multiple times before:

Spread FUD - apologising - act like a slimeball - start new FUD campaign.

I never saw him posting good news about Bitcoin just truckloads of bullshit.
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February 20, 2019, 03:34:27 PM

Nice art there Olegya199

Lets see if we get 4k+ again
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February 20, 2019, 03:35:26 PM

Suddenly $4000 wall on bitstamp...
We will smash through it, $4,000 will be ours soon enough.

thats WO spirit, have another beer my friend Smiley

Above $4,000 & staying above $4,000 soon, I hope. Little by little the bears are losing their grip on this market.

last evening I had to miss the LFC game, we were playing and the host ain't no football guy.... he had some politics on his TV ....
pity they stuck @0-0
looking forward this evening (hope juve to F*** up ATL-M)

yeah bro, let us penetrate 4K territory !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but please PAGE PARITY NOW!!!??

0-0 was not ideal but not a bad result really. Bayern failed to score an away goal. If we go to Germany & score they will need two. I think we will go to the quarter final.

I am still in Manchester, I am going to Rio Ferdinand’s restaurant tonight. Pics incoming Smiley
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February 20, 2019, 03:39:10 PM

^
dammit and i'll be sitting in my lazy one Wink

super like to see what they serve down there

AND 4K = opposite direction THX for cooperation @corn
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February 20, 2019, 03:39:37 PM

I used to be a much bigger sports fan, I still watch games every now and then but I was wasting too much time watching sports.  Might life doesn't change in the slightest if my team wins.  Some of these fans take it too far.  you know its bad when you see fans of the opposing team getting murdered. Saw a video of this in South America from last year.
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February 20, 2019, 03:41:23 PM

I can’t think the bear market is definitely over until we see $5,000. Hopefully we see that in a couple of months.
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February 20, 2019, 03:41:57 PM

Suddenly $4000 wall on bitstamp...
We will smash through it, $4,000 will be ours soon enough.

thats WO spirit, have another beer my friend Smiley

Above $4,000 & staying above $4,000 soon, I hope. Little by little the bears are losing their grip on this market.

Please no please no please no.

Give us a few months yet... I haven't been able to accumulate nearly as much as I want...

More FUD plz  Cry
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February 20, 2019, 03:42:44 PM

I must have been unclear when I said I wasn’t going to discuss it with you because you have got big old bags and only talk your book

Yet my 'book' has 'bags' on both sides of this argument. If you're going to claim that necessarily invalidates one's viewpoints, then I am free of such taint, while you are fully complicit (assuming your bags are free of Bitcoin Cash, which you seem to imply).

Not to mention, of course, that you continue to discuss it.
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February 20, 2019, 03:45:05 PM
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thread is speeding up
hard to keep up with the tip
sign of coming bull?
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February 20, 2019, 03:48:21 PM

thread is speeding up
hard to keep up with the tip
sign of coming bull?

But bull for ?

For which protocol?
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February 20, 2019, 03:50:00 PM

thread is speeding up
hard to keep up with the tip
sign of coming bull?

But bull for ?

For which protocol?


Bitcoin or he should GTFO Cheesy
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February 20, 2019, 03:50:37 PM

I'm perplexed why so many people continue to jump into mining.  You are nearly always better off just buying coins instead.
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February 20, 2019, 03:52:01 PM

Problem is that nocoiners and the new crypto enthusiast will fall for this scams and they will buy into bCash before even introduced to the real Bitcoin.

Well, from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

#justsayin'

still pumping (supposedly defending) bcash, trash?    #yeahright Roll Eyes

Just making a point. Do you wish to argue the contrary view? Again: from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to your "original vision" claims.  Even if true, such supposed alignment with bitcoin's original vision is not going to make any kind of impact if the shit does not work because the vast majority of the community (more than 95%) has moved on to various upgrades, which seems to be the case in regards to where bitcoin is at today versus bcash sv... 

So you cede the point. Great. We're making progress.

I'm gonna cede the point that the majority of the community prefers BTC to BCH or SV. For the time being.

Though I am not going to cede your ridiculous claim that 'shit does not work'. Both BCH and SV work beautifully. And they will continue to work when usage once again strangles BTC, rendering it once again unusable. Which will likely have a salutary effect upon the relative preferences for BTC and its larger-blocked brethren.
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February 20, 2019, 03:54:10 PM

I'm perplexed why so many people continue to jump into mining.  You are nearly always better off just buying coins instead.

Somebody posted an image a while back showing how much in USD terms it costs to mine (per coin) in different parts of the world. In Venezuela it is something like $300 - $400. Ridiculously cheap but the authorities don’t like it much there & you might have to bribe them etc.

Who feels like setting up a mining farm in Venezuela Wink
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February 20, 2019, 03:56:01 PM

Leverage long (or leverage whatever) (especially 80x) is a nearly a certain way to ensure that you don't have much if any BTC in the long run. 

Obviously I was exaggerating JJG, based on goldking's famous long.
Not many places you can do that anyways.

Personally, I don't see any need for any leverage, and moreso with going BTC long, and part of the reason is the additional complications in attempting to calculate and to prepare yourself for either price direction. 

There seem to be some traders who are able to balance that practice in a way that is both prudent and profitable, but those with margin trading skills and finess seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
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February 20, 2019, 03:57:42 PM

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead.

I beg your pardon ?

Lightning IS Bitcoin.

Lightning transactions are not on chain, so they are therefore not Bitcoin transactions. So if LN txs are not Bitcoin txs, it follows that ...

I'm not trying to claim that LN is useless. It will likely have benefits for some limited applications. But to pin BTC's future on it when simpler methods were available... smh.

Going to have to pull you up on that one mate... LN Opens and Closed channel onchain. therefore they are BTC transactions.

Just no. The opening and the closing are Bitcoin transactions. All the in-channel transactions are NOT Bitcoin transactions. Sorry. This should be obvious.

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On another note, i don't know why people are discounting LN. This is some awesome development/technology. What you see now may be different in 5 -10 years from now, there alot of smart people with forward thinking minds.

I'm only 'discounting' LN against the absurd claims made for it. As a layer 2 protocol, I'm completely whatevs with whatever all y'all want to do with a layer 2 thingy. The galling thing is that the underlying base protocol was intentionally crippled in order to implement LN. The fact that such crippling wasn't even necessary only adds insult to injury, and calls into question the motives and wisdom of those who advocated for such.
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Problem is that nocoiners and the new crypto enthusiast will fall for this scams and they will buy into bCash before even introduced to the real Bitcoin.

Well, from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

#justsayin'

still pumping (supposedly defending) bcash, trash?    #yeahright Roll Eyes

Just making a point. Do you wish to argue the contrary view? Again: from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to your "original vision" claims.  Even if true, such supposed alignment with bitcoin's original vision is not going to make any kind of impact if the shit does not work because the vast majority of the community (more than 95%) has moved on to various upgrades, which seems to be the case in regards to where bitcoin is at today versus bcash sv... 

So you cede the point. Great. We're making progress.

I'm gonna cede the point that the majority of the community prefers BTC to BCH or SV. For the time being.

Though I am not going to cede your ridiculous claim that 'shit does not work'. Both BCH and SV work beautifully. And they will continue to work when usage once again strangles BTC, rendering it once again unusable. Which will likely have a salutary effect upon the relative preferences for BTC and its larger-blocked brethren.

In other words, you and your boys are attempting to plan another coordinated spam attack on the bitcoin blockchain at the right time.   That is if they have any money left in their coffers to attempt to sustain such a hopefully effective attack..   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Good luck with that   (NOT).   Tongue Tongue
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