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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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March 07, 2019, 12:11:58 PM

finally some good news on population reduction. just a matter of when
https://www.cnet.com/news/asteroids-are-much-harder-to-destroy-than-scientists-originally-thought/
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March 07, 2019, 12:16:38 PM

https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?
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March 07, 2019, 12:34:21 PM

Mic, show us your pics from El Nido, Palawan in the Philippines. It looks very nice, but I have read that some of the 'tours' only give you about 45 minutes in any one place.

Wanted to keep it quiet .... but cause you Ask.... i Will provid a few this evening Wink

Its truely beautyfull down here, of-course the small town a bit dirty (with its charmes) but out town only green and beauty


IRL 10X more breathtaking ..... pic’s making it look more bad Roll Eyes

Wasn’t plan to put in to much pic’s, but it was on request
Me sorry
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And WTF is that red in BTC ?

(In the sea’s I saw 0 plastic or dirty things where i was) i did saw Some Holland peoples Wink

Wow Mrs Goosens is a hottie  Cool

Is for sure NO lie Cheesy

This is for you to decide Mic.

Outer beauty fades away with time, Inner beauty stays for the century, hope you get the gist.

And for everyone who fights with everyone because they support BTC or bch ( insert your fav coin)

Please don't turn into this, no matter you are in 21 clubs, noncoiner etc etc



It's just a piece of noob advice from a new member. you can bash me or completely ignore this post.

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March 07, 2019, 12:34:50 PM

https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?

seems untenable really.

but. i did look around the site. no taxable event moving a coin there (or out i presume?). interest paid in same crypto as deposit. 1099 tax form sent with interest made for tax purposes. so you are taxed only on the interest. not sure how they figure that in USD when interest was in btc..

if you dont mind losing it, might be worth a play (for some). 1 btc or 45 eth minimum.

of course "not you keys not your btc."

risky but if you dont mind losing it all it might be appealing to some. as it would earn 6% that the btc in yer cold wallet doesnt.

nice, till you lose 100% of it. ooops
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March 07, 2019, 12:34:57 PM

https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?

I think 'Gemini backed' is disingenuous. They've been contracted for the job of coin parking. I presume they wouldn't have done it if Carlos Matos had been in the room. All the same it's not an endorsement as such.
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One good thing to come out of the Bitconnect ponzi scam is that newbs are much more aware of it than pirate's ponzi scam, which taught the OGs to be very wary of such blatant nonsense.

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March 07, 2019, 12:42:59 PM
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https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?

seems untenable really.

but. i did look around the site. no taxable event moving a coin there (or out i presume?). interest paid in same crypto as deposit. 1099 tax form sent with interest made for tax purposes. so you are taxed only on the interest. not sure how they figure that in USD when interest was in btc..

if you dont mind losing it, might be worth a play (for some). 1 btc or 45 eth minimum.

of course "not you keys not your btc."

risky but if you dont mind losing it all it might be appealing to some. as it would earn 6% that the btc in yer cold wallet doesnt.

nice, till you lose 100% of it. ooops

I follow one simple rule. I never do any "business" with anyone if I don't understand their business model and exactly know how THEY are profiting in the dealing. As I can't see here how they could profit from it it's a no-go for me.
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March 07, 2019, 12:44:39 PM

https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?

I would be very wary.
The amount of scams that have already taken place in the cryptoshpere is just downright scary.
Until these institutes can somehow prove that they won’t go under/CEO die and leave no access to his/her password, or whatever excuse they come up with for buggering off with peoples hard earned then I wouldn’t trust them.
After all, BTC was invented so we don’t need to trust anyone with our finances. You might as well go back to the banking system!
Remember, not your keys.....not your coins.

Edit: I think LastoftheV8s beat me to it and more elequently
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March 07, 2019, 12:51:52 PM


seems untenable really.

but. i did look around the site. no taxable event moving a coin there (or out i presume?). interest paid in same crypto as deposit. 1099 tax form sent with interest made for tax purposes. so you are taxed only on the interest. not sure how they figure that in USD when interest was in btc..

if you dont mind losing it, might be worth a play (for some). 1 btc or 45 eth minimum.

of course "not you keys not your btc."

risky but if you dont mind losing it all it might be appealing to some. as it would earn 6% that the btc in yer cold wallet doesnt.

nice, till you lose 100% of it. ooops

I follow one simple rule. I never do any "business" with anyone if I don't understand their business model and exactly know how THEY are profiting in the dealing. As I can't see here how they could profit from it it's a no-go for me.

agree.

i glanced briefly at the loan stuff that seems to enable this 6%. for loans, seems a lotta collateral needed and its current value compared to the remaining load amount is constantly reevaluated and may need additional collateral or payments at any time. and its high interest, but i dont remember the amount.

didnt really try running numbers (interest paid vs loans income) as im not that interested. maybe someone else could see if its even remotely possible with the numbers they give.
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March 07, 2019, 01:38:30 PM

agree.

i glanced briefly at the loan stuff that seems to enable this 6%. for loans, seems a lotta collateral needed and its current value compared to the remaining load amount is constantly reevaluated and may need additional collateral or payments at any time. and its high interest, but i dont remember the amount.

didnt really try running numbers (interest paid vs loans income) as im not that interested. maybe someone else could see if its even remotely possible with the numbers they give.

This is funded by lending out to traders like this - https://genesiscap.co - but with your money rather than their own in which case they can more than cover the interest payments. They should be buying their depositers a big present for the amount of money they'll make off them.

All that collaterallised loan stuff is separate.
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March 07, 2019, 02:06:57 PM

Both Last of the V8s and now Lauda too are filing fake scam reports against people.  He's even filed a fake report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (no, I'm not a Bcash fan):

I came to understand, feedbacks which aren't related to trade or scam like activities shouldn't be left with a positive or negative tag. The third option which is the neutral feedback should be used in a case if you feel the need lo leave a feedback.
Which is false. Stop spreading misinformation.

Of course the scammer feedback system is not for completely arbitrary opinion bullshit like you don't like their taste in music or fashion so you give them a negative score.  It's pretty obvious Last of the V8s is abusing the system when he filed a scam report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (lol).  I could give two shits about Bcash, and Jbreher and I are not friends, but if you can file a scam report against someone for owning Bcash, then filing a scam report on people for owning Dogecoin or Monero would be valid too.  

Hell, it would also be completely viable for me to file a scam report against EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the ENTIRE FORUM supporting bitcoin for being scammers because transaction validators are designed to centralize in every cryptocurrency and decentralization is a 100% completely unsolvable problem.  So do you really want to play by the rules you and Last of the V8s advocate now, Lauda?  I just noticed you left a fake scam report on my page too.  

You're literally an ANTIFA member.  They're unable to win in any legit debate so their only valid tactic is to try and censor or practice defamation.  Just like you, Last of the V8s is also incapable of beating me in debate which is why he did this.  Nothing I've said is even false.  It's YOU that's spreading disinformation.  Creating a decentralized digital currency is 100% impossible, and any non-fungible currency is also a permissioned ledger by default, which is why I advocate physical metals.
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March 07, 2019, 02:11:22 PM

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ktorpey/2019/03/06/bitcoin-investors-targeted-with-audits-by-canadas-federal-tax-agency/

such charmingly polite people
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March 07, 2019, 02:13:57 PM

$3,850

This seems to be a point of resistance atm, we just can’t pump much higher, for now at least.
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March 07, 2019, 02:15:06 PM
Last edit: March 07, 2019, 02:25:35 PM by bitserve

Both Last of the V8s and now Lauda too are filing fake scam reports against people.  He's even filed a fake report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (no, I'm not a Bcash fan):

I came to understand, feedbacks which aren't related to trade or scam like activities shouldn't be left with a positive or negative tag. The third option which is the neutral feedback should be used in a case if you feel the need lo leave a feedback.
Which is false. Stop spreading misinformation.

Of course the scammer feedback system is not for completely arbitrary opinion bullshit like you don't like their taste in music or fashion so you give them a negative score.  It's pretty obvious Last of the V8s is abusing the system when he filed a scam report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (lol).  I could give two shits about Bcash, and Jbreher and I are not friends, but if you can file a scam report against someone for owning Bcash, then filing a scam report on people for owning Dogecoin or Monero would be valid too.  

Hell, it would also be completely viable for me to file a scam report against EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the ENTIRE FORUM supporting bitcoin for being scammers because transaction validators are designed to centralize in every cryptocurrency and decentralization is a 100% completely unsolvable problem.  So do you really want to play by the rules you and Last of the V8s advocate now, Lauda?  I just noticed you left a fake scam report on my page too.  

You're literally an ANTIFA member.  They're unable to win in any legit debate so their only valid tactic is to try and censor or practice defamation.  Just like you, Last of the V8s is also incapable of beating me in debate which is why he did this.  Nothing I've said is even false.  It's YOU that's spreading disinformation.  Creating a decentralized digital currency is 100% impossible, and any non-fungible currency is also a permissioned ledger by default, which is why I advocate physical metals.

Move your complaints to meta. This is not the place for that.

P.S.: And if you want to have some real debate and see yourself biting the dust go to the trolls thread where we I would be able to openly engage you without pissing other WO's. Do it, if you have some cojones.
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Both Last of the V8s and now Lauda too are filing fake scam reports against people.  He's even filed a fake report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (no, I'm not a Bcash fan):

I came to understand, feedbacks which aren't related to trade or scam like activities shouldn't be left with a positive or negative tag. The third option which is the neutral feedback should be used in a case if you feel the need lo leave a feedback.
Which is false. Stop spreading misinformation.

Of course the scammer feedback system is not for completely arbitrary opinion bullshit like you don't like their taste in music or fashion so you give them a negative score.  It's pretty obvious Last of the V8s is abusing the system when he filed a scam report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (lol).  I could give two shits about Bcash, and Jbreher and I are not friends, but if you can file a scam report against someone for owning Bcash, then filing a scam report on people for owning Dogecoin or Monero would be valid too.  

Hell, it would also be completely viable for me to file a scam report against EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the ENTIRE FORUM supporting bitcoin for being scammers because transaction validators are designed to centralize in every cryptocurrency and decentralization is a 100% completely unsolvable problem.  So do you really want to play by the rules you and Last of the V8s advocate now, Lauda?  I just noticed you left a fake scam report on my page too.  

You're literally an ANTIFA member.  They're unable to win in any legit debate so their only valid tactic is to try and censor or practice defamation.  Just like you, Last of the V8s is also incapable of beating me in debate which is why he did this.  Nothing I've said is even false.  It's YOU that's spreading disinformation.  Creating a decentralized digital currency is 100% impossible, and any non-fungible currency is also a permissioned ledger by default, which is why I advocate physical metals.

Lol a nocoiner thats willing to be a policeman among coiners Cheesy
Fighting the good cause there r0ach Wink
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Thanks for proving my point that craptocurrency is nothing more than a complete garbage govt tracking and control system that abolishes the 5th amendment:

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March 07, 2019, 02:23:54 PM

The only 2 strictly limited things are time and bitcoin.

Buying bitcoin == Buying time.

“What can I buy with bitcoin?”

You can buy yourself more time, the most fundamentally scarce thing on earth.

https://twitter.com/misir_mahmudov/status/1103437467963834369?s=21
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Digital payments are now more popular than cash in the UK.

It's predicted to fall below 10% of payments in the next two decades.

Cash will be outlawed sooner than you think.

Crypto is all that stands between us and a dystopian future without financial privacy.

https://twitter.com/alecziupsnys/status/1103393578766749698?s=21
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If you use chrome upgrade it quickly. There's a new zero day vulnerability being exploited.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/03/06/serious-chrome-zero-day-google-says-update-right-this-minute/

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Chrome users, make sure you’ve got the very latest version.

Or, as Justin Schuh, one of Chrome’s well-known security researchers, put it:

    "[L]ike, seriously, update your Chrome installs… like right this minute."


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Precise information about the Chrome CVE-2019-5786 zero-day is hard to come by at the moment – as Google says:

    "Access to bug details and links may be kept restricted until a majority of users are updated with a fix. We will also retain restrictions if the bug exists in a third party library that other projects similarly depend on, but haven’t yet fixed."



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When we heard that the vulnerability was connected to FileReader, we assumed that the bug would involve reading from files you weren’t supposed to.

Ironically, however, it looks as though attackers can take much more general control, allowing them to pull off what’s called Remote Code Execution, or RCE.

RCE almost always means a crooks can implant malware without any warnings, dialogs or popups.

Just tricking you into looking at a booby-trapped web page might be enough for crooks to take over your computer remotely.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/03/07/google-confirms-serious-chrome-security-problem-heres-how-to-fix-it/#3938d60b2002

https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-reveals-chrome-zero-day-under-active-attacks/
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Crypto is all that stands between us and a dystopian future without financial privacy.

Micgoossens, you need to be fundamentally retarded to post things like this.  You're not aware that bitcoin offers no financial privacy whatsoever?  Instead of zero privacy, it even goes a step further to abolish the 5th amendment and submit yourself to be spied on and financially audited 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.  A 'blockchain' currency does not prevent dystopia, it is dystopia.
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