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May 06, 2013, 03:11:54 AM
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Quite a nice shallow upward slope these last few days. All very sensible and nice. I hope the bears stocked up this time -- eventually there will be no going back for more.
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May 06, 2013, 03:20:07 AM
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Made a nice +30btc this time, after losing -10btc when it crashed down to 50's.
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May 06, 2013, 03:27:35 AM
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Well I was wrong. We broke 120 before breaking 105.

This was clearly however cuz of godzillia but all is good.

When I have money on the line I seem to be wrong about 80%of the time. But when I don't I'm right 80% of the time.

Greed must really mess with my head.

The bears aren't extinct yet. I'm not convinced we don't dip again until 125.
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May 06, 2013, 03:33:54 AM
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It is definitely not one person, but I am certain the vast majority is one person
(If the White, rather than Grey sum number on ClarkMoody denotes multiple sources, which I am 99.9% certain it does - as the $110 sum is white, rather than grey)

I'm not sure but I think the depth data might possibly show separate orders as separate entities.
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May 06, 2013, 03:35:52 AM
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I agree it is hard to say what exactly is happening with the wall but manipulation fits occam's razor for me.

MANIPULATION?! On Bitcoin?! You must be crazy!  Roll Eyes
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May 06, 2013, 03:42:20 AM
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wall gone
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May 06, 2013, 03:44:01 AM
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This is the entry at 110:
{"price":110,"amount":15071.34118868,"price_int":"11000000","amount_int":"1507134118868","stamp":"1367807143242382"}

I'm not sure what the stamp is but as this is the only 110 entry, I'm thinking that this is probably an amalgamation of several orders. (I thought that that there was a stamp probably meant that there was one entry per order but I now think that's not the case).
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May 06, 2013, 03:45:23 AM
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There's actually a lot more depth above $90 than before (50k BTC out of 0 a few days ago).  We're fine.
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May 06, 2013, 03:46:36 AM
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I was just thinking it was time to track down that launch picture directory...
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May 06, 2013, 03:47:17 AM
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This is the entry at 110:
{"price":110,"amount":15071.34118868,"price_int":"11000000","amount_int":"1507134118868","stamp":"1367807143242382"}

I'm not sure what the stamp is but as this is the only 110 entry, I'm thinking that this is probably an amalgamation of several orders. (I thought that that there was a stamp probably meant that there was one entry per order but I now think that's not the case).

And now...  Grin

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{"price":110,"amount":419.25607783,"price_int":"11000000","amount_int":"41925607783","stamp":"1367811304391121"}



Stamp is date and time in unix time with with microsecond precision of the last change.
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May 06, 2013, 03:48:41 AM
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wall gone

Wonder if his real wall was the sell wall at 120, and now we free fall to 90, hmmm...

I bet he got tired of waiting on a bear to come along, but they are either scared or hibernating, so he was the person behind the recent rise from 116 to 122, which was about the same amount of BTC the wall was. I guess a quick check of the depth would sort of confirm this.
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May 06, 2013, 03:49:42 AM
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wall gone

Wonder if his real wall was the sell wall at 120, and now we free fall to 90, hmmm...

I bet he got tired of waiting on a bear to come along, but they are either scared or hibernating, so he was the person behind the recent rise from 116 to 122, which was about the same amount of BTC the wall was. I guess a quick check of the depth would sort of confirm this.

But the wall didn't diminish in that time.
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May 06, 2013, 03:50:35 AM
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He's gone! God has forsaken us!
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May 06, 2013, 03:52:28 AM
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Well, seems the triangle is complete. Up we go?

Edit: I can drawz too!



Triangle magic! Chazaaaam!  Tongue

haha aren't triangles awesome?

wall's gone though... PANIC?

the daily wedge is complete....
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May 06, 2013, 03:54:04 AM
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wall gone

Wonder if his real wall was the sell wall at 120, and now we free fall to 90, hmmm...

I bet he got tired of waiting on a bear to come along, but they are either scared or hibernating, so he was the person behind the recent rise from 116 to 122, which was about the same amount of BTC the wall was. I guess a quick check of the depth would sort of confirm this.

But the wall didn't diminish in that time.

Thats right, you can't set a buy order, then buy at market, then take down your buy order anymore unless you have the funds to cover it. My bad!

He probably had a lot of coin in the 120 range he wanted to sell, and forced the price into it?
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May 06, 2013, 03:57:58 AM
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wall gone

Wonder if his real wall was the sell wall at 120, and now we free fall to 90, hmmm...

I bet he got tired of waiting on a bear to come along, but they are either scared or hibernating, so he was the person behind the recent rise from 116 to 122, which was about the same amount of BTC the wall was. I guess a quick check of the depth would sort of confirm this.

But the wall didn't diminish in that time.

Thats right, you can't set a buy order, then buy at market, then take down your buy order anymore unless you have the funds to cover it. My bad!

He probably had a lot of coin in the 120 range he wanted to sell, and forced the price into it?

That's what I think. But I'm probably biased because I'm shorting right now.  Tongue
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May 06, 2013, 04:08:43 AM
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It just boggles my mind that someone will play around with 2mil in cash in a market like this.  I wonder how many BTC he has?  
Zero. And just learned about Bitcoin, how amazing it is, and wants a long-term holding like Winklevii, Exante and Keiser?
If someone really wanted to get in at 110 with 2 mil, I think they would put a much smaller wall there and then reinforce it as it gets eaten
Unless they don't give a shit because they HAVE 2 million to play with
You don't earn $2m by screwing around like that.

How exactly do you earn $2 million then!? Tell me  Cheesy

I was selling yesterday like a baby elephant. Did not want to tell it in the thread (since it was a kind of live training for me and Roni) but it was about 67% my fault that we dropped from 119 to 108. Some of you saw the 1,000BTC wall scaring the shit away from prospective buyers. It was mine. I thought it would drop anyway, and the time was ripe for some playing around.

I could drive the price 10% down without selling more than 1,000BTC. This confirmed to me that it was overextended to the upside, just waiting for pricking. Then I tried to pressure it further down towards my target of 105, since the support in my theory lies below that magic number. I did not think we would revisit 100 again, and if we did, we would just briefly dip to about 95, and leave the territory for good.

That was a mistake. After 12% drop the bowl was tilted and a recoil was in order. If I had been playing with BTC300-500, I would have got out at average 116, enabling a buyback at 108-109. Now I was "too big to succeed" and thought that it would certainly go to 105 just because of my wish. I spent 1,000BTC in trying to cross 107 second time, which was needless waste of ammunition with a gain that would not have been monetary anyway (buying back at 105.14 with a 2,000BTC wall would have been a near wash - I never aim to gain 1-2%, that is way too risky with bitcoin. 10-20% suits me much better).

Then I wrote that I was "done buying". Since the bid was there, and I was sure that there would be a person in the U.S., after waking up Sunday morning, seeing that coin is down, but he can still sell for a profit, would sell the 5,000BTC. So technically I was done buying, although the bid was not fulfilled yet. I also thought I would act as a double-contrarian indicator, profiting from telling about doing contrary to what I do.

Then some bloke I am not affiliated with, decided to buy 2,000BTC with market order and everything went sour.  Angry Now I have set up a very fancy algorithmic buyback schedule, which either allows me to buy back at a profit (possible even 6 more days if the price goes south), a loss (if it doesn't do it in 6 days), or leaves me with $220k funny money, and my remaining bitcoins valued at $300k/BTC in October, 2013.

Sometimes you need to spend money to make a point. This time I earnestly hope to be able to buyback (I will divulge the strategy when I am done), but even if not, I can suffer the $300k bitcoins like a man. After all some people will actually commend me for the prediction and thank me for their fortune, and the haters are not welcome to my conference anyway and ignored in this forum.

Disclaimer: The "me" means me, personally, when referring to the initiator of trades, and Eesti Investeerimishobe OÜ, est. 2009, Tallinn when referring to the owner of the bitcoins traded. In Estonia, bitcoin trade is tax free. The company is 100% owned by my family.
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May 06, 2013, 04:09:59 AM
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And we are under 120, maybe wallzilla was the only one pushing this up, now free fall?

I want 70$ coins!

yeah, that sure seemed like heavy-handed manipulation -- the wall disappeared moments after we broke $120 to see a short selloff (M's coins?).

the funny thing, though, is that it completed the bearish wedge shape... it makes me wonder about the relationship between large players and standard methods of TA.
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May 06, 2013, 04:10:11 AM
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And we are under 120, maybe wallzilla was the only one pushing this up, now free fall?

I want 70$ coins!

70 seems ambitious
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May 06, 2013, 04:22:24 AM
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Wall at $120 growing.

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