Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[cAPSLOCK]

CDBCs vs Bitcoin is a very interesting discussion to have.  There are pros and cons to both.  And to different sorts of users.

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Pros and cons to both..

fuck that nonsense...

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You are, as you tend to do, inferring things I do not mean.

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Well, don't say it then.

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Jay, cAPSLOCK does not like CDBCs, he's just being realistic...

Every now and then I tangle with a JJG autism flare up.  

It is what it is.

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[cAPSLOCK]

Great.. .I am glad that you are planning to know your enemy.. Hopefully, you do not lose sight of what is bitcoin in the process.

Exactly.  This will be a powerful enemy.  And even though they have exactly ZERO chance of stopping bitcoin, they actually DO have the power to harm people all the way to the point of death.  And even as hyperbolic as I can be... that is not an exaggeration.

Knowing their tactics, and preparing for them, as well as trying to see things from their perspective will be one of the ways I protect myself from their shenanigans.  And I hope some of my thoughts on that matter might help some of my brethren (and mythical sistren) here as well.

But I do tend to over-inflate my own importance in my own estimation from time to time.  Not as much as you, but we can't all be THAT good. 

[gallianooo]

After 2 fake breakout, "beautiful" M15 candle  

Definitely #nofuel for BTC.

#HODL.

[cAPSLOCK]

How many forum users contributed to this? At least one, as far as I can see..

A good argument.  Is your one forum member memorydealers?  *sigh*...  Oh Roger...

[DaRude]

How many forum users contributed to this? At least one, as far as I can see..

Think i was just tax-raped

[cAPSLOCK]

Fuck CBDCs and the pumping of them... especially in this thread.

CBDCs should be treated like a shitcoin as far as this thread is concerned...

I think CBDCs are worse than the majority of shitcoins regarding fungibility, dystopian control by design, so what would be a proper name for this?

govcoin (Bad suggestion, people might confuse "gov" with something positive.)
1984coin (Not shitty enough, and confuse illiterate.)
pedocoin (Seems to be a common disorder among those in power truly benefiting from such coin.)

****coin

Help me fill out the "****" here, need a catchy one.

I propose panopticoin.

A good one.  Also I thought of slavecoin.

[ivomm]

Quite an aggressive selling around 40K-45K in recent days. It looks like some whale is afraid of something and throws everything including the kitchen sink to dump the price. Just like kaPutin is dumping his army and taking heavy kicks in his communist butt.  

[ChartBuddy]

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[fillippone]

*sigh*...  Oh Roger...

I can’t see HIS name on the credits.

Think i was just tax-raped

You are not alone, my friend. You are not alone.

[Lucius]

Well, they are soldiers, so they'll have to die as long as Putin wants them to.
Being in the army is great, but only in peaceful times...

Or in case you attack someone who is at least ten times weaker than you - shelling hospitals, schools and TV towers is even easier because they don't fight back. Meanwhile, Russian morale is declining, especially when they read that from now on they will be stalked by the world's best sniper.

[ChartBuddy]

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[sirazimuth]

****coin

Help me fill out the "****" here, need a catchy one.

 catchycoin……YW


Do I win a teeshirt?  batslaps for everyone engaging in this objectionable shitcoinery

[Copetech]

Fuck CBDCs and the pumping of them... especially in this thread.

CBDCs should be treated like a shitcoin as far as this thread is concerned...

I think CBDCs are worse than the majority of shitcoins regarding fungibility, dystopian control by design, so what would be a proper name for this?

govcoin (Bad suggestion, people might confuse "gov" with something positive.)
1984coin (Not shitty enough, and confuse illiterate.)
pedocoin (Seems to be a common disorder among those in power truly benefiting from such coin.)

****coin

Help me fill out the "****" here, need a catchy one.

Stop beating around the bush, we all know the moniker you're looking for is Commie-Coin. Take any advocate and scratch the paint and you'll immediately find globalist central planning utopian Communists just under the surface. It's all about living wage, equity, tracking, and CONTROL! You'll own nothing and like it! Report your neighbor for wrongthink and their coins will be canceled. They're gonna try it again folks and this time on a global scale.

Sure.. I can appreciate that... but it seems that CBDCs should be treated like a shitcoin as far as this thread is concerned...

I think this is exactly WRONG! CBDC isn't another shitcoin as it's being rolled-out to replace traditional fiat. They've spent themselves into oblivion (recently very intentionally) to the point where there is no feasible way to continue servicing the debt. So they intend to crash the USD, GBP, Euro, etc. etc. and replace it with this new digital utopian coin that carries no debt. This means our ongoing tracking of BTC/USD values will be useless. BTC will be worth an infinite number of dollars, but that still won't tell us how many rolls of toilet paper it will buy. And if the new Commie-Coins specifically ban conversion to & from BTC, what are the implications? Do we see a gray market of direct barter over the counter BTC for toilet paper? Can we then sell the Toilet Paper for Commi-Coin in order to buy a restaurant meal? Or will our overlords notice that we had unaccounted for toilet paper and cancel our Commie-Coin as they send us off to the gulag for theft? I mean, it's really the only humanitarian thing to do since they can no longer support themselves after being cut off from CC, they will work for their food and shelter in the government camps. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll get the best of care...until they don't.

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[Tash]

How many forum users contributed to this? At least one, as far as I can see..

Think i was just tax-raped

Any legal contract requires at least two willing partys otherwise its a clear case of extortion.
The only legal tax is sales tax because the business owner has a legal working contract with the town/council and the fee (tax) he then adds to the sale price. Most tax money is used for war anyway.

Australia one party policy
https://australiaoneparty.com/policies-summary/

[d_eddie]

I think there's a big misnomer about the word communism (and communist, and similar).

Communism, among other effects on society, starts from the assumption that the means of production (materials, machinery, even the labor) should be owned by the producers - that is, the workers. TLDR: factories are owned by factory workers, likely in equal per-person shares. Of course, in practice the workers eventually get royally fucked by TPTB anyway, since such ownership is not enforced as promised, the devil is in the details etc. Look at the Communist Party in China, hand in hand with their oligarchy - at least as long as the oligarchs do not go "against the people", meaning "against the party nomenklatura".

At any rate:

Putin is NOT a communist. He was put there by Yeltsin exactly to STOP some communist from seizing power. He is a plutocrat, which is the exact opposite of a communist.

"Normal" western governments (USA, Canada, Europe) are not communist. They don't even lean towards communism. Not a bit.

Control freak with totalitarian inclinations does not equal communist. If in doubt, read up on communism on Wikipedia or other sources you deem reliable.

Socialism is a different but similar doctrine. There are elements of socialism in several "normal" western governments. Socialism is inherently "weaker" (less totalitarian) than communism, although it can slide into horrible forms of repression too, as can pure capitalism BTW. It's just human nature and has little to do with the underlying ideology, if any. A bland form of socialism generally yields higher minimum wages, higher income taxes, universal health care and instruction, a patronizing nanny state  etc. A particularly soft form of socialism (so-called social democracy) has been mainstream in most of Scandinavia at the end of the 20th century. Your neighbors would snitch on you if they noticed you bought too much alcohol for your own good, but e.g., your children would have free or near-free education up to the university level.

[sirazimuth]

In a capitalist system, man exploits man, whereas in a communist system, its the other way around.

[d_eddie]

In a capitalist system, man exploits man, whereas in a communist system, its the other way around.

Excellent summary!

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