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Damn, they're even ready to ban crypto: https://decrypt.co/94601/estonia-calls-restrict-crypto-fears-russian-sanctions-evasion
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March 08, 2022, 09:47:45 PM

.....
....even a stopped clock can be correct from time to time - a couple times a day to be more precise.

Indeed....
However, there is no way for one to determine when it is correct, unless one has a working clock next to it, in which case, surely the stopped clock is not only useless, but also irrelevant....Perhaps?

I recall an old saying that went something like: You never take two clocks with you when you travel, you either take one or three.

Was the person saying that wearing an onion in his belt?
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A bipartisan group of senators is introducing a bill to prevent Russia from liquidating gold to withstand biting sanctions.

Why it matters: The sanctions against Russia have frozen the country's foreign exchange assets, but its stockpile of gold could be a lifeline. A measure to close the loophole is yet another indication Congress is looking to get ahead of the Biden administration on punitive measures against Russia.

Is this really necessary?

Who will buy "physical" gold from Russia? Who would trust them with the delivery?

What if the play is not to sell gold, but simply increase demand for it? And in doing so make its cache far more valuable.

Will sanctions extend to China? Probably not.

https://en.sge.com.cn/

How does Russia recoup losses incurred thus far and inflict some pain of its own?

-> Reprice oil & LNG in terms of gold with a price that works in Russia's favor.
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March 08, 2022, 10:02:28 PM

I like CBuddy posts...He is so informing and apolitical.  (sorry Arrie, I know you find him them very irritating...)

edit... sorry snowflakes folks....I fixed that offensive pronoun.

Pronouns are beep/boop.

If I ever would have to choose a pronoun I would choose "your majesty" I always wanted to be called that.
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March 08, 2022, 10:17:58 PM

Are we so brainwashed we support local censorship but condemn Russians for doing the same?  Are we so brainwashed we call Putin's acts inhumane but we support hatred against average Russians who have nothing to do with this?  I have no idea.  One thing is sure, we are being lied one way or another.  Orwell was right.  We are currently living in his world without a doubt.  If someone has a contradictory argument, please come up and write it down.  I am really too confused by what is going on to understand what is good and bad anymore.

You've fallen into the trap of false equivalence.

Putin's regime attacked an independent country, lied about "military exercises" / no intention to attack Ukraine / "special operation" / not targeting civilians; threatened with nuclear weapons; persecutes, beats up, arrests people for merely saying "no to war", and that's just off the top of my head for the last couple of weeks.

Ukrainian government possibly lied about their losses in the war.

Same thing?

Surely some kremlintroll will be around soon to tell me that some Ukrainian lied about something else too. Also the US invaded countries. Et cetera. Whataboutism is a favorite tool of Soviet propaganda, very easy to use and quite effective on a mass scale.

Then there is this whole "average Russians" thing. I don't know who's telling you to hate them but you shouldn't. Average Russians are victims of the regime too.


I struggle with the whataboutism, sure, ethically you cannot justify littering just because you saw someone else do it. But in a competitive environment that simply doesn't work, and the appropriate term for such action is preferential treatment/discrimination, and it just gives an unfair advantage to one side. For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law e.g. Coworker comes in late all the time, but the first time you come in 15min late to work you get written up/reprimanded. Or your team gets a fault for doing exactly the same thing that the opposing team was allowed to do the whole game. Or your kids test gets marked down for the same mistakes that all of the other kids got away with ...

As to your other angle, it all comes down to perspectives or frames of reference if you wish. One side tries to frame the conflict in terms of a separate, individual localized incident where Russia out of the blue attacks small Ukraine for a land grab. Very easy to argue for Ukraine as a victim and dismiss Russia with crazy Putin as a big bad aggressor, pretty clear cut whats good and bad.

But taking a step back and looking at a bigger picture you realize that suddenly things are not so simple, and some things don't make sense at all. Clearly by officially providing live intel and 17,000 anti-tank missiles and 2,000 stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine makes it a proxy war for superpowers with Ukraine stuck in the middle. Now this is where things get very nuanced, not so black and white, and now whats good and whats bad isn't so clear anymore. Just because things are complicated doesn't make Russia right, but people start thinking, and this is not the field mass media and people with agenda, want to play on.

It's not a proxy war if one of the partys takes an active part in the fighting.

Ukraine is not "stuck in the middle" It's being invaded and actively begging the world to send weapons and soldiers. And the world is responding, you can add 5000 AT-4s from Sweden to the list.

Ukrainian soldier trying to figure out what the heck it says on one of those AT-4s





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Refugees fleeing Ukraine (since 24 February 2022)
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My apologies, there were 96000 other people that fled before the war plus the 99000 after the war started. Sorry this one word was such a hard trigger for you. My excuse is that your link doesn't open in Tor and the numbers I was thinking about were from a few days ago.

My point still stands, Putin is not being accused of bombing people in DNR/LNR or Russia, he's being accused of bombing people in the parts of Ukraine that aren't under his control.

And while I deserve the ridicule for getting one fact wrong in the post where I told you to get your facts right, this...

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Why do you hold people in this thread for imbeciles, you deceive, manipulate, and now straight out lie? Is it because 100.000 Ukrainians illegally fleeing to Russia since February 24th during a Martial Law undercuts your whole narrative that evil Putin indiscriminately killing Ukrainians? And justifies keeping 200.000 civilian without food water and power from evacuating a besieged city? I was expecting more out of you. I hold this place to higher regard, back up your claims or GTFO, this is not the place for hive minds go to social network with your trolling.

... is fucking mad. Get help before it's too late.
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March 08, 2022, 10:24:24 PM



Don't they have connections to China/Kazakhstan, as long as blocks can get through China/Kazakhstan BTC should be fine. It only takes one synced node to share the blocks with the rest.


Dipsh!t..You forgot Mongolia, Finland, North Korea, Georgia, Letonia, Estonia, Azerbaijan, Norway and Ukraine.

Where exactly is Letonia on the map?

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 Letonia occupies the same spacetime as Latvia but in Romania or Spanish... maybe Turkish.

edit: Greek

I should have said : Austro-Hungarian Empire  and the border was much more simple. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You're digging yourself deeper into the hole.
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March 08, 2022, 10:29:06 PM

As to your other angle, it all comes down to perspectives or frames of reference if you wish. One side tries to frame the conflict in terms of a separate, individual localized incident where Russia out of the blue attacks small Ukraine for a land grab. Very easy to argue for Ukraine as a victim and dismiss Russia with crazy Putin as a big bad aggressor, pretty clear cut whats good and bad.

Georgia 2008, Ukraine 2014, no, it's not "individual localized", it follows the pattern of Putin attempting to resurrect a totalitarian dictatorship, collapse of which he not-so-subtly called the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.

But taking a step back and looking at a bigger picture you realize that suddenly things are not so simple, and some things don't make sense at all. Clearly by officially providing live intel and 17,000 anti-tank missiles and 2,000 stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine makes it a proxy war for superpowers with Ukraine stuck in the middle.

How does it not "make sense at all" for Ukraine to acquire defensive capabilities after the aforementioned aggressions? Surely it makes at least some sense if you really want to step back and take a look at the whole picture and not just Putin's "interests".

Now this is where things get very nuanced, not so black and white, and now whats good and whats bad isn't so clear anymore. Just because things are complicated doesn't make Russia right, but people start thinking, and this is not the field mass media and people with agenda, want to play on.

No, it's still actually quite clear, no need to muddy the waters here. If Alice robs Bob's house and Carol's house and Carol buys a baseball bat and Alice comes back to rob Carol 8 years later, no sane person would think that this is complicated or nuanced.

After Saudis double tap a Yemen funeral with a 500 pound laser-guided bombs manufactured by the United States resulting in 155 killed, US sells $110 billion in weapons in 2017 and $350 billion over 10 years to Saudi Arabia while Saudis are still involved in the Yemeni war causing (8,672 civilians killed and 9,741 injured by coalition's airstrikes) and no one bats an eye, the war is still ongoing. Russia starts a conflict in Ukraine with 406 civilians killed and everyone looses it, Russian funds are stolen, every mass media is covering the war almost 24/7, major cities light up their buildings in the colors of the Ukrainian flag, online warriors are activated and put Ukrainian flags in the profile, and people want to start WW3 by asking NATO to start shooting down Russian planes ("no fly zone"). Clearly all due to the loss of human life and because Saudis are not a dictatorship Roll Eyes

So in your twisted world selling weapons and using weapons is the same thing?
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March 08, 2022, 10:31:12 PM

This morning's western propaganda trying to get us into WW3 by the end of today:

Daily Mail
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NORMAN BAKER: Everything Vladimir Putin is doing echoes Adolf Hitler. That's why the West has no choice but to enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine


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Ukraine’s president says Putin is living in an ‘informational bubble’

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Warning NATO may have to fight Russia sooner or later; 12,000 Russian troops dead and some deserting, Ukraine says

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OPINION - There’s no reasoning with Russia. It can only be stopped by force

Meanwhile the RT website no longer loads.

BuT tHeY aRe ThE pRoPaGaNdA gUyS, nOt Us...



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March 08, 2022, 10:48:08 PM

Meanwhile the RT website no longer loads.
BuT tHeY aRe ThE pRoPaGaNdA gUyS, nOt Us...

https://www.italy24news.com/world/393470.html

Basically, Russia has a China-style intranet now, so...

Yes, but they are not using it, it's just there in case they get cut of the internet by the west (and not to cut of Russia from the internet as is often reported).
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March 08, 2022, 10:50:56 PM

Oil price rising again in the wake of this disgusting news from this lunatic imbecile aimed at another lunatic imbecile.
"Everyone else can pay" is their motto it seems to me.

Biden to ban US imports of Russian oil in bid to punish Putin
https://www.ft.com/content/2e0b1d84-e595-4c5a-be4e-928417b9c7cc

This will not make a dent of difference to Russia or Putin btw, in fact they will just get even more money as the oil price rises.
They have China. A far bigger growing market than Europe and the US combined whilst we will struggle to get fuel elsewhere at greater cost.

Utter lunacy.

This is good, it hastens our independence from Russia.
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..... only 1 sixth of our average lifespan.
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That's always in the back of my mind.  If/when my feline friends go before me, I know I'll be shattered.

And it has always made me irritated or even mad that no breaders are breading a new bread whos only trait is long life.
We could easily at least double the lifespan of dogs and cats if we tried.
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March 08, 2022, 11:02:39 PM

As to your other angle, it all comes down to perspectives or frames of reference if you wish. One side tries to frame the conflict in terms of a separate, individual localized incident where Russia out of the blue attacks small Ukraine for a land grab. Very easy to argue for Ukraine as a victim and dismiss Russia with crazy Putin as a big bad aggressor, pretty clear cut whats good and bad.

Georgia 2008, Ukraine 2014, no, it's not "individual localized", it follows the pattern of Putin attempting to resurrect a totalitarian dictatorship, collapse of which he not-so-subtly called the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.

But taking a step back and looking at a bigger picture you realize that suddenly things are not so simple, and some things don't make sense at all. Clearly by officially providing live intel and 17,000 anti-tank missiles and 2,000 stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine makes it a proxy war for superpowers with Ukraine stuck in the middle.

How does it not "make sense at all" for Ukraine to acquire defensive capabilities after the aforementioned aggressions? Surely it makes at least some sense if you really want to step back and take a look at the whole picture and not just Putin's "interests".

Now this is where things get very nuanced, not so black and white, and now whats good and whats bad isn't so clear anymore. Just because things are complicated doesn't make Russia right, but people start thinking, and this is not the field mass media and people with agenda, want to play on.

No, it's still actually quite clear, no need to muddy the waters here. If Alice robs Bob's house and Carol's house and Carol buys a baseball bat and Alice comes back to rob Carol 8 years later, no sane person would think that this is complicated or nuanced.

After Saudis double tap a Yemen funeral with a 500 pound laser-guided bombs manufactured by the United States resulting in 155 killed, US sells $110 billion in weapons in 2017 and $350 billion over 10 years to Saudi Arabia while Saudis are still involved in the Yemeni war causing (8,672 civilians killed and 9,741 injured by coalition's airstrikes) and no one bats an eye, the war is still ongoing. Russia starts a conflict in Ukraine with 406 civilians killed and everyone looses it, Russian funds are stolen, every mass media is covering the war almost 24/7, major cities light up their buildings in the colors of the Ukrainian flag, online warriors are activated and put Ukrainian flags in the profile, and people want to start WW3 by asking NATO to start shooting down Russian planes ("no fly zone"). Clearly all due to the loss of human life and because Saudis are not a dictatorship Roll Eyes

So in your twisted world selling weapons and using weapons is the same thing?

Really? That's what you got out of this? The world of the day is Complicity.

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https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-08-22/h_169c24d4b4d3933e6cd5b173bafc3db8

Looks like they're doubling down and completely locking themselves out of foreign currency. US sanctions Russian oil and gas, not much left to loose, next domino to fall is Russia switching to eating potatoes while sanctioning Nord Stream1. Guaranteed global recession at best. Ukraine is fucked, Russia is fucked, Europe is fucked. US Huh. China is golden. BTC continues to do its own thing, no fucks given
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poland-announces-all-its-mig-29-jets-will-be-transferred-us-send-ukraine
US "surprised" Poland has transferred MIG-29's to it for onward transfer to Ukraine ... victoria nuland who set all this shit off doesn't know what surprise is ... you fuck around with chaos and sometimes you get your ass blown up

... these Russian oligarchs will be pissed losing their toys and some know how to fight real dirty, watch your back Vikkie, chaos has a way of circling back around like a boomerang ... sow the breeze, reap the whirlwind


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nuland-warns-russia-may-seize-ukraine-biolabs-stage-false-flag-using-bioweapons
... and lookie here nuland again in the middle of a clusterfeck in Uraine ... US-led biolabs could fall into Russian hands ... um first explain what the fuck US was doing with biolabs in Ukraine please vikkie? (get us up to speed about those CIA-led snipers at Ukraine coup-protest while you up there thnx)
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Russian Federation       8 Mar 2022    99,300

My apologies, there were 96000 other people that fled before the war plus the 99000 after the war started. Sorry this one word was such a hard trigger for you. My excuse is that your link doesn't open in Tor and the numbers I was thinking about were from a few days ago.

My point still stands, Putin is not being accused of bombing people in DNR/LNR or Russia, he's being accused of bombing people in the parts of Ukraine that aren't under his control.

And while I deserve the ridicule for getting one fact wrong in the post where I told you to get your facts right, this...

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Why do you hold people in this thread for imbeciles, you deceive, manipulate, and now straight out lie? Is it because 100.000 Ukrainians illegally fleeing to Russia since February 24th during a Martial Law undercuts your whole narrative that evil Putin indiscriminately killing Ukrainians? And justifies keeping 200.000 civilian without food water and power from evacuating a besieged city? I was expecting more out of you. I hold this place to higher regard, back up your claims or GTFO, this is not the place for hive minds go to social network with your trolling.

... is fucking mad. Get help before it's too late.

You chose a better option, nevertheless, you discredited yourself, your claims will be views as mere opinions unless you cite everything with neutral sources.
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