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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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September 11, 2016, 07:32:57 PM

This must be some insider selling...
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September 11, 2016, 07:34:16 PM

This must be some insider selling...

you mean like the one we saw before the finex-hack?
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September 11, 2016, 07:34:34 PM

I really do like this increase because I bought some yesterday and making a little profit from it rising almost $10 in the last 24 hours.


happy with that profit?? Wow! I'd say you are very easily pleased! Anyway it's down $5 now from yesterday.




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I spoke too soon. It's way down in seconds
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September 11, 2016, 07:42:07 PM

Buy time.
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September 11, 2016, 07:44:22 PM

I really do like this increase because I bought some yesterday and making a little profit from it rising almost $10 in the last 24 hours.


happy with that profit?? Wow! I'd say you are very easily pleased! Anyway it's down $5 now from yesterday.




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I spoke too soon. It's way down in seconds
For $100 worth yes it is a profit for less it is not worth it.
Yes it going down now probably from all the buying that happened yesterday.
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September 11, 2016, 07:47:09 PM

Assuming nothing major has happened, a cool-off like this may be a healthy correction for the next leg up.
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September 11, 2016, 07:48:48 PM

is crypto done??  Huh


"One small step for man, one giant leap for Bitc... "

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September 11, 2016, 07:55:53 PM

Assuming nothing major has happened, a cool-off like this may be a healthy correction for the next leg up.


A cool off? We haven't gone up THAT much surely?

With pump and corrections like this we will all have our own islands by the year 2140.
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September 11, 2016, 07:59:24 PM

Assuming nothing major has happened, a cool-off like this may be a healthy correction for the next leg up.


A cool off? We haven't gone up THAT much surely?

With pump and corrections like this we will all have our own islands by the year 2140.

We will anyway, thanks to global warming.
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September 11, 2016, 08:02:24 PM

Oh !!!!!!
Well that was a major dip just now I noticed too.
The profit for the amount that I bought yesterday has dropped to -13%.
Oh Well! It was nice thinking I got profit while it lasted for 10 hours.
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September 11, 2016, 08:25:24 PM

Oh !!!!!!
Well that was a major dip just now I noticed too.
The profit for the amount that I bought yesterday has dropped to -13%.
Oh Well! It was nice thinking I got profit while it lasted for 10 hours.

There should be some excitement when we experience some price movement, no matter which direction especially when we had been experiencing extended periods of flat prices and fairly mediocre trade volume.

I don't see any major reason to get worked up regarding one bitcoin trade, unless you are attempting to play your bitcoin trades balls to the walls, which generally tends to be a bad strategy - unless you happen to be a whale who can kind manipulate prices.

Accordingly, let's say for example yesterday you had $1000 available that you could invest in bitcoin, and your view of bitcoin price was super bullish.  In those kinds of circumstances (depending also on the amount that you already had invested in bitcoin), you may have reasonably chosen to invest anywhere between $700 and $800 into bitcoin at $618 and then waited to see which way the price goes and have $200 to $300 available for further buying in the event that prices moved against your optimism (which just happened).
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September 11, 2016, 08:26:08 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.
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September 11, 2016, 08:48:01 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  
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September 11, 2016, 09:19:05 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  



You do see the timing right? ... And that the chinese started this... and the rest followed... right?? Or are you so trapped in your bubble and blinded by the soap distortions on your bubble's walls... ??  Huh
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September 11, 2016, 09:31:45 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  



You do see the timing right? ... And that the chinese started this... and the rest followed... right?? Or are you so trapped in your bubble and blinded by the soap distortions on your bubble's walls... ??  Huh


Whatever, savetherain. 

I think that I sufficiently made my point already, but maybe a bit of a further explanation could be helpful - rather than sitting back without acknowledging your seemingly attempts to buy into superficiality while denigrating the comments of others.

Yes, some kind of pump or dump can start in one location, such as china, but the bitcoin is much more complex than being controlled by a narrow set of interests and market movements play on each other, even if they may have started in one location.  There exists all kinds of lead and follow from various trading points, and to characterize the matter as "chinese" or an "attack" seems to largely lose the point with attempts at superficiality and misleading attempts at oversimplification.

Also, the "attack" characterization seems to imply that there is something going on that is beyond mere market dynamics.  In fact, most exchanges have been experiencing fairly low levels of trade volume, which leaves pumping and dumping (in either direction) fairly easy to carry out with a relatively low number of coins... Characterizing such trading as an "attack" comes off as an exaggeration in the least, and could be characterized as misleading if such language were coming from a troll - which I would not want to suggest that IMI is a troll, though you, savetherain, frequently do come off as a bit of a troll.... but that may be just your strange ways of presentation?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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September 11, 2016, 10:05:41 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  

agreed, but it seems like some planned/coordinated attack to shake out some weak hands or to destroy some margins.

the only question is, to what purpose?

preparing for a takeoff?
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September 11, 2016, 10:08:26 PM

What a strange drop. Came home earlier saw 630 thought wow nice! looked back and hour later and 600, thinking what the hell just happened? anyone know for sure?

At least its coming back it would seem.  Smiley
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September 11, 2016, 10:09:48 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  

agreed, but it seems like some planned/coordinated attack to shake out some weak hands or to destroy some margins.

the only question is, to what purpose?

preparing for a takeoff?


The price is not good enough (not high enough) ... people are not selling, the volumes are unpleasing... There needs to be more confidence created... So basically they dump so they can buy a bit cheaper... then they pump. Those that dumped and waiting will find out that they got duped and they will be forced to buy back in at a higher price... Cheesy ... So... the usual bullsh!t .. but you already knew that.. Smiley   Cheesy .. !!!

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September 11, 2016, 10:10:46 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  

agreed, but it seems like some planned/coordinated attack to shake out some weak hands or to destroy some margins.

the only question is, to what purpose?

preparing for a takeoff?

I hope so, maybe more volatility will have shorts take positions and then boom..
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September 11, 2016, 10:29:47 PM

most probable explanation: a coordinated chinese attack to trigger stop-loss-margin-calls.


I agree with you about goal to trigger some stop-loss margin calls, but such dumping does not need to be characterized as either an "attack" nor "chinese."  

agreed, but it seems like some planned/coordinated attack to shake out some weak hands or to destroy some margins.


What's new about that?  Surely, over time, some whales may become more sophisticated in their attempts to keep coins on many of the exchanges, but sometimes, there is just lead and follow going on, and sometimes there may be a lead, but other players are not willing to follow.

Yeah, the overwhelming majority of folks participating in these forums are not whales, and therefore, we can only attempt to extrapolate based on what we see and what seems logical, and the dynamics change over time, including which exchanges seem to be leading and the willingness of traders to follow under certain circumstances and also what kinds of FUD is going to be affective in order to attempt to cause a panic dump or even the kinds  of "good news" to attempt to support a pump.

Surely, also some theories and explanations regarding price movement make more sense than other theories and explanations.




the only question is, to what purpose?

I don't know whether there has to be a purpose, except for in the short term, it appears that this specific dump was successful in that some lead and others followed.  Surely, some whales have a better ability to predict and to control price direction as compared with others, yet I doubt that anyone of them really know the longer term price direction (I guess what we would characterize as medium term, weeks to several months).  I would anticipate that they frequently try to manipulate by either pumping or dumping, and sometimes the pump or dump works and other times it does not.. and when the volume is low, then it is more likely going to yield better abilities to predict for such whales. 

Those of us who are smaller fish, just attempt our best to go with the flow and to set up plans that work for us, and some of us are likely better at setting up and tailoring such plans than others.  In the end, maybe it does not matter so much what is your plan except that your plan is tailored to your own circumstances.

I don't see any purpose in really attempting to ascribe any kind of deeper or meaningful purpose to these pumps and dumps, except for the fact that they are going to occur and on individual levels we strive to prepare for them, even though they may take place in somewhat unpredictable ways, they are in the end, anticipated to take place and without significant rhyme or reason except for the fact that they are able to take place.


preparing for a takeoff?

I think that in the medium term, we have a fairly decent chance of price appreciation, and I am becoming a bit more bullish in my thinking that we are at least going to experience some shorter term pumps in the near future, absent some kind of hacking event or something like bitfinex in the near future.  Anyhow, there are a few resistance points in the upper $600s and mid-to-upper $700s that we have to make it through before becoming too anxious about the price.

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