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[d_eddie]

Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.

Yes, opinions apart, he's one of the few on the "other camp" who can sustain an informed argument - one that is worth debating. Math spot on, even with misguided qualitative views.

At any rate, I only saw gentle teasing and unbearable service talk, which seems quite acceptable    

[LewisPirenne]

Does anyone know where is a localbitcoins volume statistic graph for Spain?

In coindance (https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins) there are a lot of countries (not Spain) and in localbitcoins itself I don't find the graphs.

Notice that the breakdown is for different Currencies, even if the graphs do suggest nations.  So all EU countries are grouped under EUR graph.  Only countries with different currencies will show up as different graph. 

[DaRude]

It does seem that BCH efforts are being redirected in what i can only assume is anticipation of seg2x but  they kinda shot themselves in the foot and now have to keep two fronts open. They're spreading thin and can't go in either direction without pissing off their support base. It's ironic that they undermined themselves with a BCH, as without it it'd be much easier for them to rally troops behind 2x

If they were smart, they would have forgot about 2x and just did a soft fork of segwit onto bch.  Segwit 8X FTW.

They were too committed yelling that segwit will blow up and burn in flames. No turning back now. I'm guessing they're in disarray now just like their user base without a clear signal on what to do next. They have limited resources and can't support 2x without taking some out of BCH

[DaRude]

Nope. I don't like it. I can't properly celebrate when alt coiners suffer like this. They're degenerates, but they're our degenerates.

Also, because rotation.

Nah as someone else mentioned they need to find their use case, otherwise they'll find themselves redundant when side chains come in

[bitserve]

Does anyone know where is a localbitcoins volume statistic graph for Spain?

In coindance (https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins) there are a lot of countries (not Spain) and in localbitcoins itself I don't find the graphs.

Notice that the breakdown is for different Currencies, even if the graphs do suggest nations.  So all EU countries are grouped under EUR graph.  Only countries with different currencies will show up as different graph. 

All clear now. Thanks!

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Nope. I don't like it. I can't properly celebrate when alt coiners suffer like this. They're degenerates, but they're our degenerates.

Also, because rotation.

Nah as someone else mentioned they need to find their use case, otherwise they'll find themselves redundant when side chains come in

They're already redundant, but all of crypto has been trading as a kind of twisted index for a while now. Unless this really is the unpeggening, a bunch of this honey will eventually flow out of BTC and back into alts.

Innit?

Screw it. Moon.

[yefi]

It does seem that BCH efforts are being redirected in what i can only assume is anticipation of seg2x but  they kinda shot themselves in the foot and now have to keep two fronts open. They're spreading thin and can't go in either direction without pissing off their support base. It's ironic that they undermined themselves with a BCH, as without it it'd be much easier for them to rally troops behind 2x

Divide and conquer, except they managed to divide themselves.

[JayJuanGee]

Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.

This thread does not have to be a total echo chamber.

Besides, he's probably kinda sad right now.

Who fucking cares if he is sad?  He has bad ideas, and I doubt that he genuinely believes some of the anti-bitcoin shit that he spews from time to time.

I have no problem with him chiming in, even if he is wrong and seems to be kind of trolling in his level of wrongness, but I don't see any reason to feel sorry for him.... why because BCH does not seem to be work out so well?  Why because it looks like segwit2x is going to be largely a failure?  These guys and their nutty ideas still remain threats to bitcoin, even when their various projects happen to fail - and it may only take one successful attack for them to fuck things up for the rest of us and for the larger bitcoin ecosystem.

[JayJuanGee]

... meanwhile b2x is losing 10% every 24 hours...
I guess that is why BC is raising, doesn't look much of a threat so far. Fingers crossed

Not so fast, Kimosabe.
https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/916438756382535691

Comes off as retarded, premature and desperate... and possibly a few other descriptors.

Like rats, scumbags, sneaky snakes, oil salesmen.

Disgusting people!

hahahaha... that's another way of putting it.   

[Icygreen]

Can anyone simply explain why a GPU mined network wouldn't work or be supported? In the future I somehow see users validating the network by simply holding or using bitcoin on a lightweight client. Not that I'd like to fork off to try but something like how torrents work where users validate the content. GPU mining sounds like a step in that direction although I have no real technical understanding on the matter. I suppose that's what I'm asking for and I'd rather hear it here than on a fanboy page.   

[DaRude]

Nope. I don't like it. I can't properly celebrate when alt coiners suffer like this. They're degenerates, but they're our degenerates.

Also, because rotation.

Nah as someone else mentioned they need to find their use case, otherwise they'll find themselves redundant when side chains come in

They're already redundant, but all of crypto has been trading as a kind of twisted index for a while now. Unless this really is the unpeggening, a bunch of this honey will eventually flow out of BTC and back into alts.

Innit?

Screw it. Moon.

Just noticed that BTC is back over 50% of all alts   

[elrippos friend]

I would need €5200 by 18'th December 2017 

[bitebits]

Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.

This thread does not have to be a total echo chamber.

Besides, he's probably kinda sad right now.

[...] He has bad ideas [...]

One should welcome opposing views. One of the very few reasons I don't have certain loud mouthed posters on ignore.

[JayJuanGee]

Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.

This thread does not have to be a total echo chamber.

Besides, he's probably kinda sad right now.

[...] He has bad ideas [...]

One should welcome opposing views. One of the very few reasons I don't have certain loud mouthed posters on ignore.

Don't get me wrong.  I am not objecting to opposing views, but I am asserting my position that there seems to be no real good reason to be respecting the contributions of folks who seem to be engaging in strategies to denigrate and attack bitcoin - and these folks could be  a threat to bitcoin if they were to be successful with their nonsense.  Accordingly, it is my right to express loud opposition to them, even while they might appear to be down and out, and sure they can come back and assert that they have good motives and related whatever (actions speak louder than words)..

Accordingly, I have no problem strenuously expressing opposition to some of the big blocker nut jobs who seem to be supporting the baloney propaganda and disruptive behaviors of folks such as Ver, Ji Han, Craig Wright, Jeff Garzik, and some of the other folks who are engaged in both destructive rhetoric and destructive actions, too.. and come into the thread spreading nonsense and FUD.

[rjclarke2000]

Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.

This thread does not have to be a total echo chamber.

Besides, he's probably kinda sad right now.

[...] He has bad ideas [...]

One should welcome opposing views. One of the very few reasons I don't have certain loud mouthed posters on ignore.

Don't get me wrong.  I am not objecting to opposing views, but I am asserting my position that there seems to be no real good reason to be respecting the contributions of folks who seem to be engaging in strategies to denigrate and attack bitcoin - and these folks could be  a threat to bitcoin if they were to be successful with their nonsense.  Accordingly, it is my right to express loud opposition to them, even while they might appear to be down and out, and sure they can come back and assert that they have good motives and related whatever (actions speak louder than words)..

Accordingly, I have no problem strenuously expressing opposition to some of the big blocker nut jobs who seem to be supporting the baloney propaganda and disruptive behaviors of folks such as Ver, Ji Han, Craig Wright, Jeff Garzik, and some of the other folks who are engaged in both destructive rhetoric and destructive actions, too.. and come into the thread spreading nonsense and FUD.

JJG I don't take any notice of your posts unless there is a % theory involved.

[acquafredda]

Nope. I don't like it. I can't properly celebrate when alt coiners suffer like this. They're degenerates, but they're our degenerates.

Also, because rotation.

Nah as someone else mentioned they need to find their use case, otherwise they'll find themselves redundant when side chains come in

They're already redundant, but all of crypto has been trading as a kind of twisted index for a while now. Unless this really is the unpeggening, a bunch of this honey will eventually flow out of BTC and back into alts.

Innit?

Screw it. Moon.

Just noticed that BTC is back over 50% of all alts   

Can someone point me out which is the alternative coin that is keeping pace with this huge Bitcoin growth? Really, is there any coin like Bitcoin?
Rocket is fueling for good, buckle up everybody.
BTC

[jbreher]

feel kind of sorry for all those who dumped their bitcoin for bcash. (except for those who were aggressively bragging about [Bitcoin Cash])

Don't cry for me, Argentina.

I expect all alts will drop up to the November segforkening, and Bitcoin Cash along with 'em. Everybody wants to maximize their free S2Xs.

Well, except me. I continue incremental buys of Bitcoin Cash. I expect an upwards inflection somewhere around the segforkening.

[jbreher]

Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.

This thread does not have to be a total echo chamber.

Besides, he's probably kinda sad right now.

Thanks for your concern. I'm fine. Way I look at it, that which I wish to continue buying is on sale. Still bullish BCH.

[bitserve]

Nope. I don't like it. I can't properly celebrate when alt coiners suffer like this. They're degenerates, but they're our degenerates.

Also, because rotation.

Nah as someone else mentioned they need to find their use case, otherwise they'll find themselves redundant when side chains come in

They're already redundant, but all of crypto has been trading as a kind of twisted index for a while now. Unless this really is the unpeggening, a bunch of this honey will eventually flow out of BTC and back into alts.

Innit?

Screw it. Moon.

Just noticed that BTC is back over 50% of all alts   

Can someone point me out which is the alternative coin that is keeping pace with this huge Bitcoin growth? Really, is there any coin like Bitcoin?
Rocket is fueling for good, buckle up everybody.
BTC

Lemme check....

Ripple.. WTF?

[jbreher]

Still bullish BCH.

Based on what fundamentals ?

Not trying to be rude, but I didn't know if your preceding post was sarcasm or not, regarding continuing to buy BCH.

No sarcasm.

Based on the fact that Bitcoin Cash is simply Bitcoin that supports all the use cases that core/blockstream jettisoned in their insane Raspberry Pi fetish. Each of these use cases has some value - value that shall in time accrue to Bitcoin Cash, because that simply cannot accrue to Bitcoin Core. With utility comes use, with use comes market, with market comes valuation.

Yes, it looks somewhat bleak now, but I expect a glorious future.