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[bitserve]

Right now, after an absolutely unprecedented 1 hour delay, Carles Puigdemount is going to start his speech.

And Bitcoin on the way to a new ATH

[bitserve]

More shitshow! The members of the presidency board of catalonian parliament LEAVE THE PLACE! WTF?!??!

P.S.: They are back now.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I tuned in to get word about the flash crash. I guess nobody noticed. Carry on.

[deplorableaustriantroll]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?

So if the miners decide to hardfork you follow them? Or do you stick to the consensus rules you choose? Imo Bitcoin shows the flaws of our legacy governance systems. They are are not able to soft fork. Only hard forks possible. Either you are with us or against us. Where it leads to can be found in various history books. Seems learning from past mistakes is impossible.

[bitserve]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?

So if the miners decide to hardfork you follow them? Or do you stick to the consensus rules you choose? Imo Bitcoin shows the flaws of our legacy governance systems. They are are not able to soft fork. Only hard forks possible. Either you are with us or against us. Where it leads to can be found in various history books. Seems learning from past mistakes is impossible.

I don't like Bitcoin forks. I don't like country forks. But I do recognise it is an interesting analogy... and it seems that both result on airdrops if you choose the "right" side of the fork.

[JimboToronto]

What a pleasant little rise... up a c-note in less than an hour.  

Go Bitcoin go.

[gembitz]

I tuned in to get word about the flash crash. I guess nobody noticed. Carry on.

 

$5000 ===> new golden floor™

[starmman]

What a pleasant little rise... up a c-note in less than an hour.  

Go Bitcoin go.

Price is looking pretty good - a lot of funds are coming from people selling alts - looks like the market cap % of BTC/Alts is increasing again

[podyx]

I'll be incredibly impressed if the guy that won MicGoosens guess the ATH contest wins the second contest!  Even if he doesn't, damn does he have a solid chance at it, the way things are going right now.

Kudos to you BikerLeszlo (sorry if I spelled that wrong)

We'll need to anoint him as King of Bitcoin

IT would’t be very crazy.... i even hope for the Guy its gonna hit ATH on 10-10 👌👍🏻

If he can do it 3 times, we can all cry conspiracy.

5 hours left

[Meuh6879]

China Ban Bitcoin
JPMorgan ban Bitcoin
Turkey ban Bitcoin

<-->DUMP






Russia ban Bitcoin

<-->PUMP

[yefi]

Yeehaw , there she blows  

The Bikerlezno pump right on time.

[bitserve]

What a pleasant little rise... up a c-note in less than an hour.  

Go Bitcoin go.

Price is looking pretty good - a lot of funds are coming from people selling alts - looks like the market cap % of BTC/Alts is increasing again

I do feel a little bad about my alts... but then I remember I got them as some sort of hedge and they are exactly doing its job (and got me a good profit already). I feel sorry for those that are overexposed to alts but, hey, this is the game!

[LFC_Bitcoin]

$4866 on Stamp.

$5000 tonight? Surely not

[In the silence]

Green green pump of bitcoin, this will likely soar up to $5100 new all time high people. Goodbye banks.
Banks will now force to adopt blockchain or they will be left behind.

[Paashaas]

More shitshow! The members of the presidency board of catalonian parliament LEAVE THE PLACE! WTF?!??!

P.S.: They are back now.

I thought Johan Cruijff liberated Catalonia years ago. What went wrong?

[deplorableaustriantroll]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?

So if the miners decide to hardfork you follow them? Or do you stick to the consensus rules you choose? Imo Bitcoin shows the flaws of our legacy governance systems. They are are not able to soft fork. Only hard forks possible. Either you are with us or against us. Where it leads to can be found in various history books. Seems learning from past mistakes is impossible.

I don't like Bitcoin forks. I don't like country forks. But I do recognise it is an interesting analogy... and it seems that both result on airdrops if you choose the "right" side of the fork.

If you choose the "wrong" country fork those airdrops might be not that pleasant and may get you killed. And in the end both chains lose value.

[bitserve]

What a pleasant little rise... up a c-note in less than an hour.  

Go Bitcoin go.

Price is looking pretty good - a lot of funds are coming from people selling alts - looks like the market cap % of BTC/Alts is increasing again

I do feel a little bad about my alts... but then I remember I got them as some sort of hedge and they are exactly doing its job (and got me a good profit already). I feel sorry for those that are overexposed to alts but, hey, this is the game!

Switch them to BTC with Changelly and switch back when you think ATH has been reached. 

I won't. That would completely defeat their purpose as a hedge. I don't care how low they go as long as Bitcoin keeps rising

[fluidjax]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,

[bitserve]

Ok, Puigdemont has finished his speech. No Unilateral Declaration of Independence (DUI) as promised. Complete fiasco. He says he want to negotiate.... again... more extortion. He doesn't keep his own word. Pro-independence radicals must be very "happy" with him today.

[bitserve]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,

It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...

But this is not a matter of free speech. It is a matter of breaking the law.

Expressing anything (not ilegal) in a peaceful way is ok.

Who has said/or done anything against that?