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[gembitz]

I have a question: will we get another free coin after segwit2x fork?

every season a new fork will be forking weeee

[HanvanBitcoin]

I'm happy to be proved wrong here but this is how I feel about the forks...

BCH - sold pretty much all straight away and did extremely well out of it and boosted my btc holdings.

Bgold - looks like it could be a waste of time and worth nothing more than a couple of potatoes each + no replay protection

2x - a real spanner in the works, no replay protection and creates yet more FUD and confusion on exchanges.


Personally I want the forks to fork off. I am slightly worried about doing anything with these coins due to the lack of replay protection which potentially could jeopardise my btc.


This Bgold smells fishy to me. From the very beginning when they released their copy and paste website put together by a dyslexic 7 year old. I'm not even going to take the language barrier as an excuse. If you are going to release something like this then start by making a decent web page.

Don't touch any of it - at least for the time being. Not worth risking your real coins.

Ssssttt.... Dont tell them   i still need a buyer for my BTCitcoinGold  

[Torque]

One day, my dream is to come back to thread, and see absolutely no discussions of contentious shitcoin forks.... sigh..  

[Ibian]

One day, my dream is to come back to thread, and see absolutely no discussions of contentious shitcoin forks.... sigh..  

Oh, you utopian dreamer you.

[rjclarke2000]

One day, my dream is to come back to thread, and see absolutely no discussions of contentious shitcoin forks.... sigh..  

It's true though isn't it.....


The more forks that happen will prove that everything that's forked is bullshit compared to the real Bitcoin. It will strengthen bitcoin in the long run.

[HanvanBitcoin]

One day, my dream is to come back to thread, and see absolutely no discussions of contentious shitcoin forks.... sigh..  

It's true though isn't it.....


The more forks that happen will prove that everything that's forked is bullshit compared to the real Bitcoin. It will strengthen bitcoin in the long run.

Yes, atleast those forks attract media attention 

[rjclarke2000]

Don't touch any of it - at least for the time being. Not worth risking your real coins.
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I will be doing the same for a period of time. Is taken so many years to get what I deem to be a nice amount of btc for me anyway. Yes I'd like hundreds but I am doing ok.

To risk this for a few $ is insane. I'll be waiting for replay protection and Trezor to support the split. I know the coins will nosedive in price by then but as you have said it's not worth the risk.



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One day I'll get the hang of trimming posts down. Fuck

[Ibian]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun

Mouse Experiments...

Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for that info.

If you think that's cool, you may wish to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU

[d_eddie]

Take a look at current Japanese culture for example.  Basically in a nutshell, the land is maxed out, they have entered a deflationary spiral of sorts, the Socialism experiment has failed,

(But has it ever begun?)

the central Bank of Japan owns something like 65% of all corporate debt, and the people work at corporations that exist basically just to pay off the interest on their corporate debt --- so basically "zombie" banks and corporations.  So the young people, overburdened with an old world social structure that's no longer working, and overburdened with personal/corporate debt, lack of advancement opportunities, etc. are no longer dating, marrying, reproducing and having families.  The majority of guys aren't even interested in the girls, just interested in themselves (preening, socializing, hanging with their guy friends, etc.). Sounds pretty depressing, huh?

There used to be a social pact of sorts until the 70's-early 80's whereby a big corporation, after sucking the parent's blood for a lifetime, would employ the child on the elder's retirement. This pact has been broken with the crisis of the 80's, and never resumed thereafter. So the frail socio-economic cohesion of Japan is going to the dogs. Socio-cultural cohesion is still quite strong, though. Maybe it's an island thing.

This made me think of something I had read a while back about a mice experiment conducted in the 1960's by John B. Calhoun.

I didn't know about that. I read up a bit. Very interesting.

Half way down the Wikipedia page you can read about it, especially about the male mice that came to be known as "the beautiful ones".  The similarities between his experiment conclusion and what is happening now in Japan is uncanny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun

Yes! The grass eating kids, or "vegetarian men" as it gets translated into English. And as Ibian points out further down, this at least is not an "island thing."

[vroom]

I like green

[petahashminer]

is this gentleman ?

[JayJuanGee]

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One day I'll get the hang of trimming posts down. Fuck

I can assist.   

[rjclarke2000]

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Edit.

One day I'll get the hang of trimming posts down. Fuck

I can assist.   

Ha ha thanks. I think.

Been here for a number of years now and still can't do it.

Noob

[jbreher]

I miss 'Chart Buddy'

Still crankin' 'em out over on The Forum That Shall Not Be Named.

[jbreher]

the supposed fork is actually an attack.

It may be worth observing the fact that whether this is an attack or rather a simple upgrade is dependent upon your individual perspective.

The real goal is replacing Core with more - say - malleable developer(s).

Notion is absurd.

IF S2X becomes the hashrate victor
AND
IF the core developers switch to developing an S2X compatible client
THEN
It is highly likely that their implementation will acquire majority status
AND
They would not, in fact, be replaced.

[d_eddie]

the supposed fork is actually an attack.

It may be worth observing the fact that whether this is an attack or rather a simple upgrade is dependent upon your individual perspective.

Right. We differ on that, it's understood.

The real goal is replacing Core with more - say - malleable developer(s).

Notion is absurd.

IF S2X becomes the hashrate victor

the consensus victor...

AND
IF the core developers switch to developing an S2X compatible client

... which they said they won't (of course it remains to be seen if they keep their word)

THEN
It is highly likely that their implementation will acquire majority status
AND
They would not, in fact, be replaced.

Under all these assumptions
(whose plausibility could be debated, but we know better than to engage in that right now, or at least I do)
that's right, they wouldn't be.

[vroom]

https://coin.dance/blocks  

segwit2x signaling rate is down to 75% in the last 24 hours. miners changing their minds?

[d_eddie]

https://coin.dance/blocks  

segwit2x signaling rate is down to 75% in the last 24 hours. miners changing their minds?

A word from Jeff Bezos could nail S2X inside its coffin.

[jbreher]

Under all these assumptions
(whose plausibility could be debated, but we know better than to engage in that right now, or at least I do)
that's right, they wouldn't be.

Yes, given the assumptions. Which, I agree, are debatable. The point remains that any 'changing of the guard' would be an abdication*. And hence, would not be merely an effort to overthrow the current devs with ones more malleable.

*Much as we all abdicated our consensus-determining (i.e., mining) power years ago.

https://coin.dance/blocks  

segwit2x signaling rate is down to 75% in the last 24 hours. miners changing their minds?

A word from Jeff Bezos could nail S2X inside its coffin.

If that be true, a differing word from Jeff Bezos could also nail S1X inside its coffin.

[becoin]

If that be true, a differing word from Jeff Bezos could also nail S1X inside its coffin.

Wrong.

Many wealthy and powerful people already have said many words against Bitcoin. But instead of going into the coffin it got to $6K.