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October 28, 2017, 09:20:01 AM

I don't think a website called "anonymousconservative" is where I want to get my etymological and scientific definitions from  Roll Eyes

You could try Wikipedia, which defines the terms in pretty much the same way...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
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October 28, 2017, 09:32:54 AM

Note how in both cases the person using the theory will always describe themselves as the superior variant within that theory and invoke the respectability of "scientific theory" to back up his feeling of superiority and justify his desire to control (or worse) the inferior people.
Hang on, which do you feel is the superiour alternative again? And why?

Every single person I've come across using r/K selection theory to describe human affairs has been defining themselves as a "K". This is an observation, not a value judgement on my part. I believe it is a value judgement on the part of the users, though.

I don't think a website called "anonymousconservative" is where I want to get my etymological and scientific definitions from  Roll Eyes
Right, you get it from his books. If the books are wrong then explain how. They are free so you can't even use money as an excuse.

I am not saying the books are "wrong", or that the scientific theory is flawed. I am saying people keep misappropriating the theory to serve their ideological needs. Anonymous conservative? Just reading through the synopsis of the book reveals its conservative bias. This is all I have to say about this at the moment. I won't try to argue people out of their dogmas, especially when they serve as a backbone to their identity as a superior human being.

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October 28, 2017, 09:35:54 AM
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Note how in both cases the person using the theory will always describe themselves as the superior variant within that theory and invoke the respectability of "scientific theory" to back up his feeling of superiority and justify his desire to control (or worse) the inferior people.
Hang on, which do you feel is the superiour alternative again? And why?

Every single person I've come across using r/K selection theory to describe human affairs has been defining themselves as a "K". This is an observation, not a value judgement on my part. I believe it is a value judgement on the part of the users, though.
There is a reason for this. The theory explains it. Have you actually read about it?

I don't think a website called "anonymousconservative" is where I want to get my etymological and scientific definitions from  Roll Eyes
Right, you get it from his books. If the books are wrong then explain how. They are free so you can't even use money as an excuse.

I am not saying the books are "wrong", or that the scientific theory is flawed. I am saying people keep misappropriating the theory to serve their ideological needs. Anonymous conservative? Just reading through the synopsis of the book reveals its conservative bias. This is all I have to say about this at the moment. I won't try to argue people out of their dogmas, especially when they serve as a backbone to their identity as a superior human being.

People with highly developed amygdalas tend towards the right of the political spectrum, while people with weakly developed same tend towards the left. This is really basic statistical analysis. K's are righties and r's are lefties.


And if the idea you oppose is a good one?
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October 28, 2017, 11:09:19 AM

There we go again... [5-minute candles, values are in EUR]

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October 28, 2017, 11:16:02 AM

There we go again... [5-minute candles, values are in EUR]



OUCH!
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October 28, 2017, 11:45:40 AM

Everytime AltCash pumps follows a dump on Bitcoin. Hmm... JihaD Wu and his moron puppet R. Ver are delusional if they think users will follow their scam. Cool
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October 28, 2017, 12:22:57 PM

Every single person I've come across using r/K selection theory to describe human affairs has been defining themselves as a "K".

Then every single person that has likely labeled themselves as K is being dishonest with themselves and have not exercised introspection.

I agree with the general premise that most apex organisms will transition from an r to K (or even to Super K in rare cases).

It's possible to vacillate between r and K states throughout a lifetime.

I myself, can introspectively see my own development from r to K, back to r, then to K again, to (possibly) a Super K ? (supporting/leading a larger familial genetic pool/community, at the expense of failing to pass on my own genetics...)

Speaking to your point, however, I do believe that, ultimately, most apex organisms do aspire towards K status, but perhaps view themselves that way through a warped lense or lack of cognition.

And yes, I can see how some could argue this post is ironic and filled with flawed-logic.

Debate.

The pseudo-science claptrap du jour. Why bother Huh
Once again, nothing pseudo about it. Just science.

Would you like to list some, er... non-pseudo objections, shall we say? Or is it enough for you to throw around ad homs?
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October 28, 2017, 12:29:00 PM

Would you like to list some, er... non-pseudo objections, shall we say? Or is it enough for you to throw around ad homs?

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October 28, 2017, 12:49:23 PM

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*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale.
...Your apparent belief that a change in PoW will make any difference in centralization is unpersuasive. No matter the technology, mining power will coalesce to those that possess the financial resources, the BizOps acumen, and most importantly the persistence and pain tolerance needed for entrepreneurship on a grand scale.

I don't believe this is true. If somehow PoW can be tied to a smartphone for "one phone one vote", those who have financial resources can screw themselves against the brute force of several billion smartphone users.

Just No. Those that have the resources will run hundreds of android emulator VMs on each of hundreds of servers, and we'll be right back with the same centralization problem we have today.
We won't, if we switch to to a RAM and RAM-access intensive PoW algo. Let them try to emulate terabytes of RAM in a time efficient way. No eh? Just as I thought.
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October 28, 2017, 01:08:02 PM

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*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale.
...Your apparent belief that a change in PoW will make any difference in centralization is unpersuasive. No matter the technology, mining power will coalesce to those that possess the financial resources, the BizOps acumen, and most importantly the persistence and pain tolerance needed for entrepreneurship on a grand scale.

I don't believe this is true. If somehow PoW can be tied to a smartphone for "one phone one vote", those who have financial resources can screw themselves against the brute force of several billion smartphone users.

Just No. Those that have the resources will run hundreds of android emulator VMs on each of hundreds of servers, and we'll be right back with the same centralization problem we have today.
We won't, if we switch to to a RAM and RAM-access intensive PoW algo. Let them try to emulate terabytes of RAM in a time efficient way. No eh? Just as I thought.

there is some really ASIC-resistant PoW, used by Vertcoin and maybe others. If the PoW has to be changed I'd like that to bring back the VGAs.
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*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale.
...Your apparent belief that a change in PoW will make any difference in centralization is unpersuasive. No matter the technology, mining power will coalesce to those that possess the financial resources, the BizOps acumen, and most importantly the persistence and pain tolerance needed for entrepreneurship on a grand scale.

I don't believe this is true. If somehow PoW can be tied to a smartphone for "one phone one vote", those who have financial resources can screw themselves against the brute force of several billion smartphone users.

Just No. Those that have the resources will run hundreds of android emulator VMs on each of hundreds of servers, and we'll be right back with the same centralization problem we have today.
We won't, if we switch to to a RAM and RAM-access intensive PoW algo. Let them try to emulate terabytes of RAM in a time efficient way. No eh? Just as I thought.

there is some really ASIC-resistant PoW, used by Vertcoin and maybe others. If the PoW has to be changed I'd like that to bring back the VGAs.

Or ideally a regular change (2 yr?) is baked in so its a regular reset.

How about that? limit the return for custom hardware
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October 28, 2017, 02:24:05 PM

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*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale.
...Your apparent belief that a change in PoW will make any difference in centralization is unpersuasive. No matter the technology, mining power will coalesce to those that possess the financial resources, the BizOps acumen, and most importantly the persistence and pain tolerance needed for entrepreneurship on a grand scale.

I don't believe this is true. If somehow PoW can be tied to a smartphone for "one phone one vote", those who have financial resources can screw themselves against the brute force of several billion smartphone users.

Just No. Those that have the resources will run hundreds of android emulator VMs on each of hundreds of servers, and we'll be right back with the same centralization problem we have today.
We won't, if we switch to to a RAM and RAM-access intensive PoW algo. Let them try to emulate terabytes of RAM in a time efficient way. No eh? Just as I thought.

there is some really ASIC-resistant PoW, used by Vertcoin and maybe others. If the PoW has to be changed I'd like that to bring back the VGAs.

china asics are a serious threat to democracy and mr robot knows this Wink lol

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October 28, 2017, 04:39:14 PM

(nonsense)

Ignored.
But it's interesting how Vertcoin is pumping lately. It must be a coincidence. It can't be related to the ASICs politics b/s in BTC.

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October 28, 2017, 06:02:13 PM



And if the idea you oppose is a good one?


That is called: "Just being pure evil." Cheesy Cheesy
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October 28, 2017, 06:24:48 PM

(nonsense)

Ignored.
But it's interesting how Vertcoin is pumping lately. It must be a coincidence. It can't be related to the ASICs politics b/s in BTC.



I have 34 of those that I bought back in 2014 or something. Might have to go thru the effort of selling them
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October 28, 2017, 06:31:02 PM

There is no reason to think that genetic differences within the human species can significantly affect reproductive strategy or political belief.

There's that lack of introspection I was referring to...

Your daily reading:

A surprising turn of events comes your way, but it could be just what the doctor ordered. You could sulk and pout and complain that this isn't what you expected -- and refuse to deal with the situation. On the other hand, you could acknowledge the disappointment, make the best of what you've got and then end up enjoying the recent circumstances, which could turn out to be quite beneficial.
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October 28, 2017, 06:36:58 PM
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^If you really want to bash your head against the wall, you might want to jump right into the Flat Earth thread. But I should warn you...
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October 28, 2017, 06:48:29 PM

On a totally unrelated note, alt gold is down to 1% and I haven't even seen any yet. Not the candied apple windfall some of us had hoped for. Embarrassed
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October 28, 2017, 07:03:41 PM

BTG could have had "some potential" had they not been so secret about it and didn't premine it. That alone makes it a non-starter.
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October 28, 2017, 07:06:28 PM

BTG could have had "some potential" had they not been so secret about it and didn't premine it. That alone makes it a non-starter.

BCH is a non-starter, didn't stop anybody from hucking money at it.
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