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[Biodom]

^^^without science you would still "drive around" with a horse and buggy and work back bending routines for 14hr in the fields.
That would be something.

[explorer]

General reminder that co2 is not a pollutant, comrade.

Not a pollutant for plants, they love it.
However, increasing Co2 does affect mental functions.
see graphs: 21% decrease in mental functions upon doubling of Co2 from 400ppm (now) to 800
https://www.advancedsciencenews.com/co2-on-the-brain-and-the-brain-on-co2

At some threshold yet to be defined but thought to be around a 1000 ppm, human cognition will begin to be negatively impacted. Latest research indicates we could attain this threshold outdoors in the next century, and the dissipation of CO2 in our atmosphere takes centuries.

Regardless on the "politically charged" question of what is causing it (the Co2 increase), if it increases, we will be progressively live in Idiocracy.
Sometimes I already feel it in talking to some people (not here).
Maybe, this is the Great Filter (a concept explaining the absence of visible super-civilizations a.k.a Fermi Paradox).

Now you just need to explain how a doubling could possibly happen.

That's the damn problem with catastrophic predictions, if it is built on one thing that can't happen the whole thing falls apart.

From the quoted article:

In a reported study, it was found that in a substantial number of poorly ventilated classrooms and workplaces, CO2 levels can average 1000 ppm, a significant proportion of these exceeded 2000 ppm and some even reached 3000 ppm.

Some are already affected, most likely.
Don't believe this, get a whiff of Co2 from the dry ice.
It helps to put things in perspective.

for the accelerated annual Co2 increase, check out the graph here:
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/co2-levels-continue-to-increase-at-record-rate

However, even at a steady 2% yearly increase (which is 33% less than in 2015) with no more acceleration, we would reach 800ppm in open air in about 35 years.

[Elwar]

As someone who worked as a defense contractor for over 20 years I will say that there is little science being done when working for the government.

It's mostly "what answer does the customer want?" followed by tweaking the numbers in the models to meet their expectations so that when the time comes they will continue to give you contracts.   (eg. this Colonel is in the pocket of Harris Corp so when we do the side by side comparison of a Lockheed and Harris radio we need to make sure the Harris radio comes out as the superior radio). If we don't give them the numbers they expect then they claim that we have faulty models and don't know how to do simulations so they will find someone with more "realistic" numbers. So you play their game.

The amount of tweaking that could be done for wireless radio simulations was endless. I can only imagine what the global temperature models are like.

[explorer]

^^^without science you would still "drive around" with a horse and buggy and work back bending routines for 14hr in the fields.
That would be something.

Or sit on my horse, watching my serfs reap the harvest...



Someone's gotta do it.

[PoS]

people believe in terraforming but climate change is a myth?

Someday when it comes time to terraform our first planet we can just build lots of cars with no catalytic converters and drive them around on the surface.

Or drive cars with turbo jet engines like f1 or planes use and do away with pollution for a change. Please dont tell me some aluminum rived will hold a quarter of million tons of jet-fuel alone like on the A380 plus engines and hydraulics and what not.

[Biodom]

In actuality, the longer the trend is in place, the more it is likely it is to continue, jokes aside.
This is true for stock markets and CO2 as well, I surmise.
Co2 increase is there and accelerating for the last 60 years (see again the same link), so it is LIKELY to continue, but not guaranteed, of course.

[Phil_S]

Okay so you got nothing.

Yeah, "nothing"...

http://www.pnas.org/content/98/9/4850

[Biodom]

^^^without science you would still "drive around" with a horse and buggy and work back bending routines for 14hr in the fields.
That would be something.

Or sit on my horse, watching my serfs reap the harvest...

Someone's gotta do it.

I would rather chill in my self driving space car on the way to my Moon solarium loft while doing something kinky with my genetically enhanced partner in zero g, but that's just me. You can dream some dark dreams, I prefer better ones.

[Ibian]

^^^without science you would still "drive around" with a horse and buggy and work back bending routines for 14hr in the fields.
That would be something.

No, we would be poking pigs with sticks. What is with people taking something as complicated as agriculture as a given?

[explorer]

^^^without science you would still "drive around" with a horse and buggy and work back bending routines for 14hr in the fields.
That would be something.

No, we would be poking pigs with sticks. What is with people taking something as complicated as agriculture as a given?

"without science" overpopulation and destructive mono-culture 'farming' would not be around either, so I guess poking a pig with a stick (or snaring some rabbits) would be reasonable.

[Elwar]

History deniers still believe that socialism can solve things.

[bitserve]

Okay so you got nothing.

Yeah, "nothing"...

http://www.pnas.org/content/98/9/4850

Those CO2 exponential growth projections are bullshit.

Time to short that shit. It clearly does look as it is topping. Dump incoming soon.

[Phil_S]

not if you zoom in...





We should keep this trend up until we reach 800-1000 ppm, so humanity's IQ drops 20-25 points.

Then we're be too stupid to solve things anyway.

[ivomm]

And again all users on the last 3 pages are put on ignore list. Trolls spitting BS in the lust for public attention. I don't care. They are all rekt. The good news from the last days is that BTC is on it's way to 10K! All weak hands are biting their nails because they listened to the trolls and panic sold at 6K. I wonder whether they will die of anger when we break the ATH  

[Rosewater Foundation]

If the solution to global warming was "oh shit, looks like we'll need to shut down governments and implement anarcho-capitalism to save the planet"...then I might be more inclined to believe the scientists that are paid by the government.

When the solution to global warming (science funded by governments) is "we need to give more power to governments" makes a fella go...hmmm....

Clearly, human pollution is causing severe weather, and climate shifts on all the planets in this solar system.  It is laughable that some people think its driven by the sun.  Moar taxes will fix it all!

There have been five mass extinction events on Earth that we know about. During each one, 75% of all species on the planet died. Most of these extinctions were caused directly or indirectly by climate change. During what palaeontologist have nicknamed The Great Dying, 95% of the species on the planet was wiped out by super volcanoes that erupted for centuries, slowly turning the atmosphere to poison. Another became know as the Oxygen Explosion, during which primitive bacteria covered the planet and oops ate up all the CO2. Humans will probably be the catalyst for the sixth mass extinction, if not the driving force.

[Elwar]

There have been five mass extinction events on Earth that we know about. During each one, 75% of all species on the planet died. Most of these extinctions were caused directly or indirectly by climate change. During what palaeontologist have nicknamed The Great Dying, 95% of the species on the planet was wiped out by super volcanoes that erupted for centuries, slowly turning the atmosphere to poison. Another became know as the Oxygen Explosion, during which primitive bacteria covered the planet and oops ate up all the CO2. Humans will probably be the catalyst for the sixth mass extinction, if not the driving force.

What kind of cars caused the first five extinction events? If they had Teslas would they have been prevented?

[Phil_S]

Back to the subject... check out this prediction from 1 year ago:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/

It's freaking amazing.

[Rosewater Foundation]

There have been five mass extinction events on Earth that we know about. During each one, 75% of all species on the planet died. Most of these extinctions were caused directly or indirectly by climate change. During what palaeontologist have nicknamed The Great Dying, 95% of the species on the planet was wiped out by super volcanoes that erupted for centuries, slowly turning the atmosphere to poison. Another became know as the Oxygen Explosion, during which primitive bacteria covered the planet and oops ate up all the CO2. Humans will probably be the catalyst for the sixth mass extinction, if not the driving force.

What kind of cars caused the first five extinction events? If they had Teslas would they have been prevented?

The Oxygen Extinction was caused by cyanobacteria, the first and so far only life-form that has successfully kicked off a global apocalypse. We could be the second with that attitude.

[Elwar]

There have been five mass extinction events on Earth that we know about. During each one, 75% of all species on the planet died. Most of these extinctions were caused directly or indirectly by climate change. During what palaeontologist have nicknamed The Great Dying, 95% of the species on the planet was wiped out by super volcanoes that erupted for centuries, slowly turning the atmosphere to poison. Another became know as the Oxygen Explosion, during which primitive bacteria covered the planet and oops ate up all the CO2. Humans will probably be the catalyst for the sixth mass extinction, if not the driving force.

What kind of cars caused the first five extinction events? If they had Teslas would they have been prevented?

The Oxygen Extinction was caused by cyanobacteria, the first and so far only life-form that has successfully kicked off a global apocalypse. We could be the second with that attitude.

I think humans can strive to be better than cyanobacteria. Our global apocalypse will be better.

[Rosewater Foundation]

There have been five mass extinction events on Earth that we know about. During each one, 75% of all species on the planet died. Most of these extinctions were caused directly or indirectly by climate change. During what palaeontologist have nicknamed The Great Dying, 95% of the species on the planet was wiped out by super volcanoes that erupted for centuries, slowly turning the atmosphere to poison. Another became know as the Oxygen Explosion, during which primitive bacteria covered the planet and oops ate up all the CO2. Humans will probably be the catalyst for the sixth mass extinction, if not the driving force.

What kind of cars caused the first five extinction events? If they had Teslas would they have been prevented?

The Oxygen Extinction was caused by cyanobacteria, the first and so far only life-form that has successfully kicked off a global apocalypse. We could be the second with that attitude.

I think humans can strive to be better than cyanobacteria. Our global apocalypse will be better.

Then we can just terraform the living daylights out of it and call it a day.

Like so:



black monolith
easy peasy