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Question: 1/24 Closing Price:
<$32,000 - 18 (22.8%)
$32,000-$33,000 - 7 (8.9%)
$33,000-$34,000 - 2 (2.5%)
$34,000-$35,000 - 6 (7.6%)
$35,000-$36,000 - 11 (13.9%)
$36,000-$37,000 - 7 (8.9%)
$37,000-$38,000 - 6 (7.6%)
$38,000-$39,000 - 1 (1.3%)
$39,000-$40,000 - 4 (5.1%)
$40,000-$41,000 - 2 (2.5%)
$41,000-$42,000 - 0 (0%)
>$42,000 - 15 (19%)
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I would dispute his take on the fungibility of bitcoin, and certain "cryptos".
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December 18, 2018, 04:17:33 PM

We're still at accumulation prices. Nowhere close to FOMO prices yet.

This is the time when you should recommend to people you actually care about to get into Bitcoin. Not just buy but understand it. (ie...send them a link to the white paper).

When the price shoots up and you start getting e-mails from people asking if they should get into "crypto", politely point them to some videos about the Federal Reserve, Austrian economics, etc. Then if they're still interested (knowing they get it)...then show them the white paper.



...has been on sale at Amazon for <$14. Everyone should buy a few and hand them out to nocoiners or altcoiners who show potential. It makes a good Christmas gift!
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December 18, 2018, 04:24:58 PM

We're still at accumulation prices. Nowhere close to FOMO prices yet.

This is the time when you should recommend to people you actually care about to get into Bitcoin. Not just buy but understand it. (ie...send them a link to the white paper).

When the price shoots up and you start getting e-mails from people asking if they should get into "crypto", politely point them to some videos about the Federal Reserve, Austrian economics, etc. Then if they're still interested (knowing they get it)...then show them the white paper.



...has been on sale at Amazon for <$14. Everyone should buy a few and hand them out to nocoiners or altcoiners who show potential. It makes a good Christmas gift!

Thats a good one! But whats the chance that a no-coiner is going to want to read it? Most of them are already dead set on the "bitcoin is a bubble" theme.... All I hear is tulips this, pyramid that...

I put a stop loss just below -REDACTED-. No worries boys. I got this.

Congrats. Smiley

Thank you!

EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

HOLY SHIT. I ACCIDENTALLY LONGED AT 80x instead of 8x AT 3237. Talk about a lucky day! Of course I noticed my mistake but by the time I could correct it, we were impaled on a fast green dildo!



 Not bad.  So the beer's on you tonight?


Maybe not tonight. I am hanging on to this long for a while like a bad gambler with an alcohol addiction. Still kind of hoping for another pumperino. Bollinger band constricting, Palms are sweaty
Knees weak, arms are heavy
Vomit on my sweater already
Mom's spaghetti

Wait, what? So you opened an 80x margin long by mistake, got the extreme luck that the price went in your favor and instead of thank the gods and close it and reopen with a more sane leverage you decide to... what? Let it go until you get rekt?
y house gone

More like: Oops, I accidentally got a house.... Well, not a house, but definitely a nice new car.
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Thats a good one! But whats the chance that a no-coiner is going to want to read it? Most of them are already dead set on the "bitcoin is a bubble" theme.... All I hear is tulips this, pyramid that...



Thank you!



Wait, what? So you opened an 80x margin long by mistake, got the extreme luck that the price went in your favor and instead of thank the gods and close it and reopen with a more sane leverage you decide to... what? Let it go until you get rekt?
y house gone

More like: Oops, I accidentally got a house.... Well, not a house, but definitely a nice new car.
Not if you don't close the long. Reopening with half the profits at 40x would be quite a hefty gamble, but sensible. What you're doing implies a mentality that'll lead to more losses than you're prepared to handle. I hope for you that I'm wrong and wish you all the best, but damn.
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December 18, 2018, 04:43:04 PM
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8 Bitcoin Achievements That Prove 2018 Was Not Entirely Crap

https://cryptobriefing.com/8-bitcoin-achievements-2018/
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1. Segwit Adoption
Segregated Witness was a Bitcoin protocol upgrade that was activated in the summer of 2017. The upgrade enabled a greater number of transactions in Bitcoin blocks.

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2. Institutional Adoption
We’ve seen players such as Fidelity Investments, Yale University, the New York Stock Exchange, and Square Inc. show interest in the space.

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3. Lightning Adoption
Bitcoin now has almost $2 million in collateral on the network and the network has gone from 0 to 4400 nodes over the course of the last 12 months.

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4. Hashrate Increase
The hashrate on the Bitcoin network has increased by almost 60% in 2018

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5. Code Development
The development of Schnorr Signatures, as well as fixing and disclosing multiple critical bugs successfully, are two major steps in Bitcoin’s development.

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6. More Unique Users
Bitcoin adoption is often measured as the number of unique addresses, and that has increased by 50% in 2018.

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7. Shaking Competition
after the ICO craze of 2017, Bitcoin has seen its market dominance increase 16% over the course of 2018.

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8. Lower Fees
the average fee per transaction has still fallen approximately 97%, which makes participation more user friendly for new entrants.
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If correct we should keep rising, slowly at first, but gaining speed and volume on the way out and see 6k  around Jan 12 2019. The cautious bull herd seems to be taking for granted they will get a nice long year to accumulate cheap coins like 2015 and then they can all be millionaires since they neglected to do this 4 years ago during the last great crypto winter, I dont think this will happen at all. Only 21 million(ok like 17 million) coins and its pretty pie in the sky for everyone to think they are gonna get 12 months of bargain basement prices where they can just casually collect coins for peanuts while fundamentals grow stronger by the day.

Ideal scenario (gently and slowly light up your hopium pipes for this one and take a big inhale)........

after regaining 6k in mid January, Bakt would then usher in another mini bubble to 40k followed by a quick and mild bear season testing 10k again, all before the next halving where the march to 250k starts Kiss

Ive been as bearish as the next guy. However, we should be given pause by the fact that everyone and his shoeshine boy are 100% certain that we're heading to $1,500-$2,500 and will endure 12+ months of crypto winter.

I don't see a long, lull in the market either. Prices are very low already and why should we be so lucky to accumulate cheap coins for 12+ months? Call me crazy, but I see the possibility for a double bubble still occurring in 2019.
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December 18, 2018, 05:21:07 PM

Who Is Buying Crypto Right Now?



https://coinninja.com/news/who-is-buying-crypto-right-now/

I think everyone is filling the bags.
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Here's some light "Bitcoin contrarian" relief from the sweat of the current "rally" Wink

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2018/10/05/answers-from-the-author-for-winifred-posters-virtual-currency-course/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/9we6ws/bitcoin_criticism_attack_of_the_50_foot/

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... a double bubble ... occurring in 2019.

Perhaps ‘The Bubble’.....

Greatest wealth transfer ever.
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If correct we should keep rising, slowly at first, but gaining speed and volume on the way out and see 6k  around Jan 12 2019. The cautious bull herd seems to be taking for granted they will get a nice long year to accumulate cheap coins like 2015 and then they can all be millionaires since they neglected to do this 4 years ago during the last great crypto winter, I dont think this will happen at all. Only 21 million(ok like 17 million) coins and its pretty pie in the sky for everyone to think they are gonna get 12 months of bargain basement prices where they can just casually collect coins for peanuts while fundamentals grow stronger by the day.

Ideal scenario (gently and slowly light up your hopium pipes for this one and take a big inhale)........

after regaining 6k in mid January, Bakt would then usher in another mini bubble to 40k followed by a quick and mild bear season testing 10k again, all before the next halving where the march to 250k starts Kiss

Ive been as bearish as the next guy. However, we should be given pause by the fact that everyone and his shoeshine boy are 100% certain that we're heading to $1,500-$2,500 and will endure 12+ months of crypto winter.

I don't see a long, lull in the market either. Prices are very low already and why should we be so lucky to accumulate cheap coins for 12+ months? Call me crazy, but I see the possibility for a double bubble still occurring in 2019.

You mean first bubble is 6k$ and second 40k$?
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Who Is Buying Crypto Right Now?



https://coinninja.com/news/who-is-buying-crypto-right-now/

I think everyone is filling the bags.

I hate graphs that cut most of the bars to make the increase look much more impressive than it really is.

Still good increase (15-20% since January)....
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I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything barely useful or profitable already?
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I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled toilet whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.
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If correct we should keep rising, slowly at first, but gaining speed and volume on the way out and see 6k  around Jan 12 2019. The cautious bull herd seems to be taking for granted they will get a nice long year to accumulate cheap coins like 2015 and then they can all be millionaires since they neglected to do this 4 years ago during the last great crypto winter, I dont think this will happen at all. Only 21 million(ok like 17 million) coins and its pretty pie in the sky for everyone to think they are gonna get 12 months of bargain basement prices where they can just casually collect coins for peanuts while fundamentals grow stronger by the day.

Ideal scenario (gently and slowly light up your hopium pipes for this one and take a big inhale)........

after regaining 6k in mid January, Bakt would then usher in another mini bubble to 40k followed by a quick and mild bear season testing 10k again, all before the next halving where the march to 250k starts Kiss

Ive been as bearish as the next guy. However, we should be given pause by the fact that everyone and his shoeshine boy are 100% certain that we're heading to $1,500-$2,500 and will endure 12+ months of crypto winter.

Yeah, I also call it a "reverse shoe-shine boy".
Bear market is probably finished when least likely participant is calling for it's continuation.
Case in point: marketwatch inverviewing a 13-year old "bear cub".
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-is-pretty-much-dead-says-teenage-crypto-phenom-2018-12-14
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I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled toilet whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.

I intend to watch the newcomers closely.
In a bull market some will do very well. Hopefully, not EOS.
The point is to absorb the gains obtained in those into more btc (before they crash).
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Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything barely useful or profitable already?
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Most ICOs have been profitable if you even partially dumped the pumps.

Profitable products? Don't think so, but keep in mind that startups generally take a few years to generate profit (if they survive). Edit: There's at least one hedge fund that outperformed the market on the way up and down (bigger gains, lower losses). Went from ~3m to ~6m and now sitting at ~4m. Started late 2017.

There are a some ICOs that look promising if you care about profits, although they're technically not aligned with the vision of Bitcoin, but rather mass adoption of crypto in general.

Then some that could work out with decent ideas, but ultra high risk due to marketing and adoption and the imminent threat of bankruptcy due to bear market.



I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled toilet whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.

I intend to watch the newcomers closely.
In a bull market some will do very well. Hopefully, not EOS.
The point is to absorb the gains obtained in those into more btc (before they crash).
That's been my game for a while now. Variable 10-40% in alts (depending on how hard they moon and how fast I dump) and skimming profits over to the BTC trading and BTC long stashes. Very pleased with the results and the on-going thrill despite bear markets.
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December 18, 2018, 06:29:30 PM

Who Is Buying Crypto Right Now?



https://coinninja.com/news/who-is-buying-crypto-right-now/

I think everyone is filling the bags.

I hate graphs that cut most of the bars to make the increase look much more impressive than it really is.

Still good increase (15-20% since January)....

This is better.

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Yeah, there is a shitload wrong with that chart but he is using all non-specific terms anyway. For a real understanding all of those must be "in relation to" with a defined metric. Gold being Moderately portable is actually laughable in comparison to BTC but not in comparison to fiat where you can only get your hands on small denomination bills which he has as high which is again laughable.










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December 18, 2018, 07:02:47 PM

Observation: While we have established there does not appear to be any discernible price correlation, between mempool size and BTC price, I did notice that the mempool has dramatically inflated over the last two hours.

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,24h

Wormsign.

indeed...12-14 sat/byte to get "in" within 3 hr, >=33 sat/byte within 1 block.
Could be a temporary situation, though.
BTW, network hashing is increasing now, albeit difficulty adjustment would still be down by ~8-9% in a few hours.
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indeed...12-14 sat/byte to get "in" within 3 hr, >=33 sat/byte within 1 block.
Could be a temporary situation, though.

Has anyone charted the correlation if there is one?

I find it hard to believe volume dumpers would wait an hour or more to get on an exchange.
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