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September 14, 2019, 09:16:42 AM

Another reason is to not induce accelerated development of the Lightning Network which actually is the Bitcoin killer app.

You have no idea whatsoever how Lightning Network works if you think that's the case.  It's 100% useless because the only manner in which it can function in the real world (when on-chain transactions are prohibitively expensive) is each user only having a single channel open to a well-connected bank who routes all their transactions.  You cannot afford to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need to send money to, nor can you fund each of those channels with proper liquidity because channel liquidity is not fungible with one another to make larger purchases.  

It will just be you connected to a bank in a permissioned ledger.  100% fucking useless:





I know how LN works as I'm using it. You don't because you don't use it.

You don't have to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need! Most people would need 5-6 channels opened where they make payments on regular basis.
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September 14, 2019, 09:19:03 AM

Baby boomers had property.
Gen X had stocks.
We, the millennials have #Bitcoin

The last 50yrs ridiculous credit expansion will now be sucked up by the hardest, scarcest most accessible asset in history.

What a time to be alive

Source: https://twitter.com/AleksSvetski/status/1172725681463148545
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September 14, 2019, 09:21:13 AM

I know how LN works as I'm using it. You don't because you don't use it.

You don't have to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need! Most people would need 5-6 channels opened where they make payments on regular basis.

Jesus christ.  Do you even read your own posts?  You're NOT describing any type of monetary system.  All you're describing is a system designed to facilitate permanent vendor lock-in.  Okay, so instead of having only a single channel open to Bank of America, some people MIGHT also have a second channel open to Amazon.com LOL.  What happens if you want to buy your neighbors lawn mower? 

Oh, that's right.  Since it would be prohibitively expensive to open a channel with him, you're using a permissioned ledger where you need to ask permission to your Bank of America channel if a payment can be sent to him.  Oh, woops, Bank of America detected that you do not hold neo-Marxist views and refuses to route any of your payments so your permissioned ledger Bitcoin isn't even usable.  The endgame evolution of all digital shitcoins is nothing more than a Chinese social credict score system.  They're all completely fucking garbage.  Physical metals are money, not this trash.
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September 14, 2019, 09:26:00 AM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $10,310
No significant move yet.

Any swing traders around?
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September 14, 2019, 09:28:03 AM



The HODL feeling..................
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September 14, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
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Give it some time and you'll learn who's a cunt and who's not. Read your local board on bitcointalk, but don't trust them till you're sure.
Despite being Italian, fillippone is not a total cunt. Read his beginner's guide. No short cuts, read it all
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https://twitter.com/lopp
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Thanks @Last of the V8s carefully read and follow everything all over help for learn.

Don’t forget my “not total cunt beginner thread”!
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September 14, 2019, 09:30:01 AM

Tell me r0ach, why are you constantly trying to scam us into PM's, whilst trying to scam us out of BTC?
Impressive. I mean your shill narrative - is scam you all the way. Biggest scammer I've seen anyways.

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Another reason is to not induce accelerated development of the Lightning Network which actually is the Bitcoin killer app.

I'd love to hear why if you don't mind.

It gives elegant technical solution to economic challenge.

The economic challenge:
Why should your purchase of a coffee or beer be written on the bitcoin blockchain and remembered forever? Obviously, it is not so important for the rest of world's population! If it is so important for you, you can still write it on the blockchain paying the appropriate tx fees. If not, well, use LN!
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September 14, 2019, 09:33:32 AM

Tell me r0ach, why are you constantly trying to scam us into PM's, whilst trying to scam us out of BTC?
Impressive. I mean your shill narrative - is scam you all the way. Biggest scammer I've seen anyways.

You can support the type 1 flag against him here if you'd like. It was opened by V8s. Its already active but a little extra support never hurt anyone.

Feel free to drop your comments on the matter in the flag thread.
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September 14, 2019, 09:34:49 AM

Baby boomers had property.
Gen X had stocks.
We, the millennials have #Bitcoin

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Source: https://twitter.com/AleksSvetski/status/1172725681463148545

It's just full-blown retard city here today.  Boomers overwhelmingly benefited from stocks far more than gen-X.  Boomers don't even know why they have stocks - they all just have them and don't even know where they came from. Usually the only gen-X that have them are active traders or people that somehow inherited one from a boomer.
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The HODL feeling..................
Feels like already in the moon LOL
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September 14, 2019, 09:40:02 AM

I know how LN works as I'm using it. You don't because you don't use it.

You don't have to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need! Most people would need 5-6 channels opened where they make payments on regular basis.

Jesus christ.  Do you even read your own posts?  

I do.
However, you seem to forget what you're arguing about?

What "channels" and how will you open them to pay to somebody on the other side of the globe with your physical gold or silver?
 
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September 14, 2019, 09:44:12 AM

I know how LN works as I'm using it. You don't because you don't use it.

You don't have to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need! Most people would need 5-6 channels opened where they make payments on regular basis.

Jesus christ.  Do you even read your own posts?  You're NOT describing any type of monetary system.  All you're describing is a system designed to facilitate permanent vendor lock-in.  Okay, so instead of having only a single channel open to Bank of America, some people MIGHT also have a second channel open to Amazon.com LOL.  What happens if you want to buy your neighbors lawn mower?  

Oh, that's right.  Since it would be prohibitively expensive to open a channel with him, you're using a permissioned ledger where you need to ask permission to your Bank of America channel if a payment can be sent to him.  Oh, woops, Bank of America detected that you do not hold neo-Marxist views and refuses to route any of your payments so your permissioned ledger Bitcoin isn't even usable.  The endgame evolution of all digital shitcoins is nothing more than a Chinese social credict score system.  They're all completely fucking garbage.  Physical metals are money, not this trash.

I do.
However, you seem to forget what you're arguing about?

What "channels" and how will you open them to pay to somebody on the other side of the globe with your physical gold or silver?

Fuck off.  You edited my post to edit out all evidence clearly showing Lightning Network is a useless, permissioned ledger scam, so I added it back.  I've already explained why LN is garbage and none of it is lies or exaggeration.  You do not get to pretend that the real world functionality of LN is different from how I stated.  Good luck with your digital shitcoin scams.  The majority of the population refuses to use a cashless society slavery system that abolishes cash, so your pump and dump scam and Chinese social credit score system cause is pointless regardless.
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September 14, 2019, 09:47:49 AM



The HODL feeling..................

The big money is not made in the buying and selling... but in the waiting

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September 14, 2019, 09:51:54 AM

I know how LN works as I'm using it. You don't because you don't use it.

You don't have to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need! Most people would need 5-6 channels opened where they make payments on regular basis.

Jesus christ.  Do you even read your own posts?  You're NOT describing any type of monetary system.  All you're describing is a system designed to facilitate permanent vendor lock-in.  Okay, so instead of having only a single channel open to Bank of America, some people MIGHT also have a second channel open to Amazon.com LOL.  What happens if you want to buy your neighbors lawn mower?  

Oh, that's right.  Since it would be prohibitively expensive to open a channel with him, you're using a permissioned ledger where you need to ask permission to your Bank of America channel if a payment can be sent to him.  Oh, woops, Bank of America detected that you do not hold neo-Marxist views and refuses to route any of your payments so your permissioned ledger Bitcoin isn't even usable.  The endgame evolution of all digital shitcoins is nothing more than a Chinese social credict score system.  They're all completely fucking garbage.  Physical metals are money, not this trash.

I do.
However, you seem to forget what you're arguing about?

What "channels" and how will you open them to pay to somebody on the other side of the globe with your physical gold or silver?

Fuck off.  You edited my post to edit out all evidence clearly showing Lightning Network is a useless, permissioned ledger scam, so I added it back.  I've already explained why LN is garbage and none of it is lies or exaggeration.  You do not get to pretend that the real world functionality of LN is different from how I stated.  Good look with your digital shitcoin scams.  The majority of the population refuses to use a cashless society slavery system that abolishes cash, so your pump and dump scam and Chinese social credit score system cause is pointless regardless.

So, you're paid per number of words you're posting here!
How are you paid? In $$$, in bitcoins, or in physical gold and silver?
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September 14, 2019, 09:53:48 AM

You don't have to open a channel to every person in the world you *potentially* might need! Most people would need 5-6 channels opened where they make payments on regular basis.

  • Mortgage bank
  • Utility companies
  • Grocery store
  • Drug dealer
  • Escort service

That about covers the regular payments.
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September 14, 2019, 09:55:11 AM

realr0ach is on fire!

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September 14, 2019, 10:03:26 AM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $10,310
No significant move yet.

Any swing traders around?



I am not an expert in graphics, but we are in a symmetrical triangle that breaks up or down, I think we will come out like a rocket up.
Interestingly the end of the triangle coincides with the launch of Bakkt 23-Sep.
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September 14, 2019, 10:07:16 AM

I am not an expert in graphics, but we are in a symmetrical triangle that breaks up or down, I think we will come out like a rocket up.
Interestingly the end of the triangle coincides with the launch of Bakkt 23-Sep.
Lunch of Bakkt, ETF, this and that - Does all these matter at all for us long holders? I am just curious about the views of individuals.

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September 14, 2019, 11:05:33 AM
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Good afternoon gentlemen!

Observing sideways price action from my favourite place (fillipone - look, the correct WO sign).

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Reposted from the BSV scam accusation thread:



Context.

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