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July 28, 2019, 06:07:33 AM

Go take some of that Bitcoin you just bought and buy a VPN service.  AIRVPN is a good place to start.  https://airvpn.org/

Now you can join whatever you like.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to encourage people to break either their local laws, or the website terms and conditions, especially considering the risk of financial loss.
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Difficulty bottoms after downward adjustments (dark blue: Dec2011, May2015, Dec2018) mark the start of a bull run.
Around 2-3x price at difficulty bottom (light blue, 30k blocks) there is some struggle, like right now.
Then price goes parabolic (green). Top at around 120k blocks.

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1155089218294693888
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Difficulty bottoms after downward adjustments (dark blue: Dec2011, May2015, Dec2018) mark the start of a bull run.
Around 2-3x price at difficulty bottom (light blue, 30k blocks) there is some struggle, like right now.
Then price goes parabolic (green). Top at around 120k blocks.

I can't make sense of that chart.
Bitcoin difficulty has never "bottomed".

https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/difficulty?timespan=all
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July 28, 2019, 06:36:55 AM

Go take some of that Bitcoin you just bought and buy a VPN service.  AIRVPN is a good place to start.  https://airvpn.org/

Now you can join whatever you like.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to encourage people to break either their local laws, or the website terms and conditions, especially considering the risk of financial loss.


Come back when you are an adult, and have the confidence and experience to stand on your own two feet.

Until then, /ignore
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July 28, 2019, 06:39:44 AM
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https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/W5wwj74c-Bitcoin-Long-Term-Trend-Analysis-A-near-term-clue-BLX-Update/

First they will make people believe this was a fake bull run and take the price to $7.5k and maybe below, then shoot up to $80k.  Cool

Lots of people will get slaughtered when we hit below $8k.
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July 28, 2019, 06:45:09 AM

Go take some of that Bitcoin you just bought and buy a VPN service.  AIRVPN is a good place to start.  https://airvpn.org/

Now you can join whatever you like.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to encourage people to break either their local laws, or the website terms and conditions, especially considering the risk of financial loss.


Come back when you're over 18

Until then, /ignore

Solid response.
I especially liked the part where you used true premises and valid reasoning in a refutation of the central point. Lol.

Seriously though, please don't encourage people to break the law.

EDIT: Nice edit; I hope you're not implying that government is unnecessary and wrong. Without modern civilization you wouldn't even be able to make that terrible argument on the internet. Do you know what hypocrisy is?
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Difficulty bottoms after downward adjustments (dark blue: Dec2011, May2015, Dec2018) mark the start of a bull run.
Around 2-3x price at difficulty bottom (light blue, 30k blocks) there is some struggle, like right now.
Then price goes parabolic (green). Top at around 120k blocks.

I can't make sense of that chart.
Bitcoin difficulty has never "bottomed".

https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/difficulty?timespan=all


https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/07/26/bitcoin-price-looking-at-a-hundredfold-jump-analyst/
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July 28, 2019, 07:03:31 AM
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Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.




Ready to make a bet on it ?

I bet NO at 99%.

Second that. 99.999%

You haven't even had time to watch it. Look at the cycle again. That last pump sticks out like a sore thumb. Markets simply don't do that naturally.



See what happens with Bitfinex/Tether on Monday. That may put this whole pump in a very different context.




So Bet or not ? If there is an escrow here for the bet.

1 BTC ?

wtf has betting got to do with any of this ? You think just because your hopium's strong the appraisal's wrong ?

The points are well made - in particular that rally was one of the more "engineered" moves bitcoin has ever made so the guy is reasonable in looking at the longer term picture.


You have a pretty strong conviction there toknormal, you should be willing to put some kind of wager on it.  Doesn't have to be 1BTC... could even be a lot smaller, such as .0001BTC or something like that... Might give you a little bit of credibility if you would back up your constant ongoing bearish predictions that never really tend to come true.

Why ?

There are plenty of both bullish and bearish opinions posted here all day long. I don't see calls for those views to be collateralised. People just don't like hearing well founded bearish opinions, that's all.

To the extent that members can largely bet their views in the market, I agree that the vast majority of the times whatever they do in the market will cover their proclamations, and in that regard, a large number of members here are not making predictions with such outrageously certain numbers as you.  Get the fuck out of here.  99%  You are full of shit, and not willing to put even a small bet on your claim about something that supposedly in your mind to be so goddamened clear and certain.

In other words, I don't believe you for a minute, and you don't seem to believe it, either.

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I'm happy with your prediction, so let's do a bet. 1 BTC.

If you have really conviction, it should not be a problem.


He (toknormal) does not have any conviction.  He is full of shit.  You don't even need to bet that much in order to prove his lack of conviction.

You could bet .00001BTC, and he still will not do it because he does not believe what he had bet.  At minimum, he is a fucking 1) pussy 2) troll/shill and 3) liar.
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with github geofencing entire countries, this might be the right time to remind that i'm mirroring several bitcoin-related git repositories on a Tor hidden service: http://nxshomzlgqmwfwhcnyvbznyrybh3gotlfgis7wkv7iur2yj2rarlhiad[.]onion/

https://twitter.com/orionwl/status/1155058225299042304
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July 28, 2019, 08:02:46 AM

JESUS H CHRIST

I leave a hardened group of hodlers for 24 hour and you all turn into a bunch of milque-toast, lily livered weak hands.  

Of course the price is soft.  ITS TEH MIDDLE OF A FREAKING HEATWAVE.  It is a long, hot summer.  People are outside and doing outside people things, not hanging around on a computer.

Prices will stay soft until late September / early October and then we will rally.  By November we should have a proper bull.  

This nonsense talk of $4k prices is just that.  Nonsense.  

Harden up.  You are embarrassing us in front of the men.

Baaaaammm right in your fucking face CryptoTrollTourist  Grin

You can't be that dumb! You have to be pretending.
I apologized only to HM for continuously bringing him up.

Look who's aggressive now, "bam in my face"? For what? LOL
Fuck right off - don't refer/engage with me again - you fucking lying imbecile.
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https://twitter.com/orionwl/status/1155058225299042304

Yes. Put it all dark and criminal tainted.
LN not laundry friendly enough?
What investors ( users - lol ) u wanna atrackt ?

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Difficulty bottoms after downward adjustments (dark blue: Dec2011, May2015, Dec2018) mark the start of a bull run.
Around 2-3x price at difficulty bottom (light blue, 30k blocks) there is some struggle, like right now.
Then price goes parabolic (green). Top at around 120k blocks.

I can't make sense of that chart.
Bitcoin difficulty has never "bottomed".

https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/difficulty?timespan=all


https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/07/26/bitcoin-price-looking-at-a-hundredfold-jump-analyst/

I read through the article to try and understand the argument being made, but the author is completely dishonest:

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The Twitterati said on Friday that each bull cycle in the bitcoin market started at so-called difficulty bottoms. The term reflects a stark drop in the bitcoin mining difficulty, which happens when miners start switching off their rigs.

Stark drop in the bitcoin mining difficulty?
Bitcoin mining difficulty has had precisely ONE (1) stark drop in its entire history.

You can look at the difficulty chart on a linear scale or a logarithmic scale, it makes no difference.

The article also opens with this:

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Bitcoin could touch the $370,000 high in the future..

Lol.
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Go take some of that Bitcoin you just bought and buy a VPN service.  AIRVPN is a good place to start.  https://airvpn.org/

Now you can join whatever you like.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to encourage people to break either their local laws, or the website terms and conditions, especially considering the risk of financial loss.


1. You were questioning what to do with your Bitcoin and appeared to complain you were unable to access a site, implying you wanted to.

2. Hairy offered a suggestion to use Bitcoin to buy a VPN - which is not in itself illegal at all.  He was not advocating breaking the law by doing that, just offering help for you to access what ever you wanted to if you were under restrictions in your own country. I doubt very much he would ever visit such a site himself.

You could engage and become part of a long-established and respected part of the forum, which in turn was set up by the creator of Bitcoin.

However, your response only proves you are just here to pick a fight; essentially not to add to the community here, but simply to troll it.  Obviously there is no motive I can see for people to do this, other than (logically) if they are either paid, butthurt or sociopathic.

How does the fact you will be increasingly ignored by anyone worth interacting with here please you?
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I leave a hardened group of hodlers for 24 hour and you all turn into a bunch of milque-toast, lily livered weak hands.  

Of course the price is soft.  ITS TEH MIDDLE OF A FREAKING HEATWAVE.  It is a long, hot summer.  People are outside and doing outside people things, not hanging around on a computer.

Prices will stay soft until late September / early October and then we will rally.  By November we should have a proper bull.  

This nonsense talk of $4k prices is just that.  Nonsense.  

Harden up.  You are embarrassing us in front of the men.

Baaaaammm right in your fucking face CryptoTrollTourist  Grin

You can't be that dumb! You have to be pretending.
I apologized only to HM for continuously bringing him up.

Look who's aggressive now, "bam in my face"? For what? LOL
Fuck right off - don't refer/engage with me again - you fucking lying imbecile.

You clearly have some type of medical condition if such a post can piss you off like that.  Grin Did you take your pills/meds? I was told by one forum member it was ok to use the f* word here?  Grin Grin Grin It's certainly lack of comprehension from YOUR side. I can't do anything about it sorry. Perhaps HM, Elwar etc could address you directly and tell you they're not bearish?  Cool
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Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.




Ready to make a bet on it ?

I bet NO at 99%.

Second that. 99.999%

You haven't even had time to watch it. Look at the cycle again. That last pump sticks out like a sore thumb. Markets simply don't do that naturally.



See what happens with Bitfinex/Tether on Monday. That may put this whole pump in a very different context.




So Bet or not ? If there is an escrow here for the bet.

1 BTC ?

wtf has betting got to do with any of this ? You think just because your hopium's strong the appraisal's wrong ?

The points are well made - in particular that rally was one of the more "engineered" moves bitcoin has ever made so the guy is reasonable in looking at the longer term picture.


You have a pretty strong conviction there toknormal, you should be willing to put some kind of wager on it.  Doesn't have to be 1BTC... could even be a lot smaller, such as .0001BTC or something like that... Might give you a little bit of credibility if you would back up your constant ongoing bearish predictions that never really tend to come true.

Why ?

There are plenty of both bullish and bearish opinions posted here all day long. I don't see calls for those views to be collateralised. People just don't like hearing well founded bearish opinions, that's all.

To the extent that members can largely bet their views in the market, I agree that the vast majority of the times whatever they do in the market will cover their proclamations, and in that regard, a large number of members here are not making predictions with such outrageously certain numbers as you.  Get the fuck out of here.  99%  You are full of shit, and not willing to put even a small bet on your claim about something that supposedly in your mind to be so goddamened clear and certain.

In other words, I don't believe you for a minute, and you don't seem to believe it, either.

[edited out]

I'm happy with your prediction, so let's do a bet. 1 BTC.

If you have really conviction, it should not be a problem.


He (toknormal) does not have any conviction.  He is full of shit.  You don't even need to bet that much in order to prove his lack of conviction.

You could bet .00001BTC, and he still will not do it because he does not believe what he had bet.  At minimum, he is a fucking 1) pussy 2) troll/shill and 3) liar.



Stop being such a defensive drama queen. It's one view. You're at liberty to dismiss it without throwing hissy fits and asking for "bets".
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with github geofencing entire countries, this might be the right time to remind that i'm mirroring several bitcoin-related git repositories on a Tor hidden service: http://nxshomzlgqmwfwhcnyvbznyrybh3gotlfgis7wkv7iur2yj2rarlhiad[.]onion/

https://twitter.com/orionwl/status/1155058225299042304

Yes. Put it all dark and criminal tainted.
LN not laundry friendly enough?
What investors ( users - lol ) u wanna atrackt ?

Sigh


GitHub was bought by Microsoft in 2018, who were the ones who decided to implement the geo-controls. These restrictions are site-wide -- not just for BTC and related repositories. They ALSO apply to the Bitcoin SV repository.

You must be here because you are upset that SV has fallen to pre-Chinese fake news tweet prices. Remember that?
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July 28, 2019, 08:38:57 AM

You could engage and become part of a long-established and respected part of the forum, which in turn was set up by the creator of Bitcoin.

However, your response only proves you are just here to pick a fight; essentially not to add to the community here, but simply to troll it.  Obviously there is no motive I can see for people to do this, other than (logically) if they are either paid, butthurt or sociopathic.

I'm offering constructive criticism in the form of simple questions; don't act like not engaging in discussion somehow strengthens or supports your position.

How does the fact you will be increasingly ignored by anyone worth interacting with here please you?

In the proverbial words of Satoshi Nakamoto..
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Anyone who thinks Bitcoin is about asking permission from their government, is in the wrong place.
Indeed. It is fundamentally libertarian by design.
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