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Wooo...

Beating Bakkt, LedgerX Is First to Launch ‘Physical’ Bitcoin Futures in US

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Bitcoin derivatives provider LedgerX announced it has launched the first physically-settled bitcoin futures contracts in the U.S. Wednesday.
The contracts, which pay traders out in bitcoin, rather than U.S. dollars, will be available to both institutional and retail investors.
Customers can deposit bitcoin, rather than dollars, when buying a contract.
LedgerX has beaten the Intercontinental Exchange’s Bakkt and TD Ameritrade-backed ErisX to the punch with its new offering.

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Any U.S. resident with a government-issued I.D. can now trade futures contracts for real bitcoin.

I couldn't check, but apparently this  goes through their OMNI platform.


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Breaking: U.S. Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) has not yet approved LedgerX to offer physically settled bitcoin futures. Developing story.

Earlier today:
LedgerX launches physically delivered bitcoin options and custody

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After obtaining a so-called designated contract market license (DCM) from the Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in June, LedgerX has now launched physically delivered bitcoin options and custody for retail investors. According to a statement from the company, the company's OMNI platform soft-launched last week and is now fully operational and serving both retail and institutional players.

Someone is very wrong here.
EDIT: apparently LegderX rushed a little bit on their product offering.


CFTC: LedgerX ‘Not Approved’ to Launch ‘Physical’ Bitcoin Futures

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In a statement received by CoinDesk Thursday, the U.S. Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) says LedgerX has “not yet been approved by the Commission” to offer physically settled bitcoin futures, contradicting the company’s claims.

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Very US solution: SUE

https://messari.io/article/ledgerx-clashes-with-cftc-over-planned-launch-of-bitcoin-futures-platform

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Following yesterdays announcement that LedgerX had launched a retail platform allowing for the first physically settled bitcoin ($BTC) futures in the U.S. it remains unclear if contracts are live for trading or will be live any time soon. Earlier today The Block reported that there was no sign of approved contracts on the CFTC website and no listed market volumes.

The CFTC later stated that LedgerX does not have a designated contract maker (DCM) license required to trade futures, only one from 2017 that allows for the trading of swaps. This statement clashes with the fact that the CFTC had reportedly approved LedgerX's DCM license last month. Following these events Paul Chou, CEO of LedgerX, took to Twitter to announce that he would take action against the CFTC stating:
I've decided to sue the CFTC for anti competitive behavior, breach of duty, going against the regs, etc.


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Which babe?
I all I see are  radishes, a mac laptop, a bottle of some undetected Dom Pérignon (might be 2009?)....

You're disappointing me, if you've only seen radishes, mac and champagne... Cool
Oh yes.

I also observed it is was maybe a good thing to raise the room AC of a couple of C° as room temperature appears to be a little bit cold...
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Last night with my babe to celebrate the 10K$ again  Roll Eyes


It's a very troubling picture.  It appears to be some dude going out of his way attempting to furnish some broad with extravagant stuff in hopes of gaining favor.  This is the Briffault trap of which Trollgoossens also fell into.
They make believe women are some type of 'investment' and that spamming them with money or doing things for them accomplishes anything at all.  It doesn't.  If you were suddenly unable to afford doing things like this and had to revert back to 'normal' food or less extravagant lifestyle, they would leave you at the drop of a hat and think nothing of it at all.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/machiavellians-gulling-the-rubes/201610/briffaults-law-women-rule

Things are fine as long as you're facilitating a largely asymmetrical relationship with you acting as a workmule donkey slave and the woman extracting large benefit in the process, but the second this scenario falters (even temporarily) from the male being some type of servant support system for the woman, they're immediately either leaving or looking to 'monkeybranch' - attempting to cheat for a better provider but not leaving you until they can actually reel one in.  Women are hardwired to be snakes.  Example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/cklhyb/you_guys_were_right/
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Just for you roach

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Last night with my babe to celebrate the 10K$ again  Roll Eyes




Good good let that dompy sink in Cheesy

I do notice you’re WO material.... when 100K party Cheesy

(You’re french yes?) a close neighbour then .....
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Last night with my babe to celebrate the 10K$ again  Roll Eyes


It's a very troubling picture.  It appears to be some dude going out of his way attempting to furnish some broad with extravagant stuff in hopes of gaining favor.  This is the Briffault trap of which Trollgoossens also fell into.
They make believe women are some type of 'investment' and that spamming them with money or doing things for them accomplishes anything at all.  It doesn't.  If you were suddenly unable to afford doing things like this and had to revert back to 'normal' food or less extravagant lifestyle, they would leave you at the drop of a hat and think nothing of it at all.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/machiavellians-gulling-the-rubes/201610/briffaults-law-women-rule

Things are fine as long as you're facilitating a largely asymmetrical relationship with you acting as a workmule donkey slave and the woman extracting large benefit in the process, but the second this scenario falters (even temporarily) from the male being some type of servant support system for the woman, they're immediately either leaving or looking to 'monkeybranch' - attempting to cheat for a better provider but not leaving you until they can actually reel one in.  Women are hardwired to be snakes.  Example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/cklhyb/you_guys_were_right/


Why you are so embittered with everything ?

I think you really have (or had) problems in your life to act like this.

Don't worry about my "babe" we are together since more than 7years, she owns businesses and earn his life without me.

So don't be stupid, and enjoy the life, basta.

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Last night with my babe to celebrate the 10K$ again  Roll Eyes




I zoomed your pic and, apart from the radishes, I noticed something overlooked: you appear to have a MacBook: would you reccomend it? I heard some horror stories about keyboards and screens getting tainted.


I've tried to zoom this picture, and could find any air conditioner, but according to this picture it is getting a little bit chilly out there...

P.S. gallianooo, what is going to be the next digit you gonna celebrate together ?
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A couple good articles...

This one's an interview with a crypto trading manager who says she hasn't seen big institutions get involved yet...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffkauflin/2019/08/01/why-we-need-new-legislation-for-cryptocurrencies-qa-with-institutional-trading-firm-ceo-jennifer-campbell/#26d7b22ab905

Forbes: Many people I’ve spoken with recently have said institutional investors are starting to come into the market more quickly. You don’t necessarily think that’s the case?

Campbell: They’re definitely coming in more than 2018. There are more traditional folks like smaller hedge funds that have come into the market. We’ve had more conversations with the large institutions, but none of the top five institutions are actually trading today.


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This one's about more FUD from centralized institutions, this time in the UK...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/08/01/bitcoin-has-no-intrinsic-value-as-uk-moves-towards-crypto-ban/#5617b0ad2d27

I guess it's hard to steer a boat when it has centuries worth of inertia. They'll come around eventually of course but I don't think it's going to be a particularly smooth ride for us.

I particularly like this quote:
"Although not a ban, [the U.K.'s FCA warning is] a move in that direction," said Herbert Sim, head of business development from Broctagon Fintech Group. "This lack of enthusiasm is shared by several countries; the U.S. with its scrutiny of libra, and India, who are looking to implement a similar ban on cryptocurrencies which are not state regulated. These movements could end up coming back to bite. The international competition on cryptocurrencies is heating up and there are huge risks in being left behind."
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I've tried to zoom this picture, and could find any air conditioner, but according to this picture it is getting a little bit chilly out there...



I also observed it is was maybe a good thing to raise the room AC of a couple of C° as room temperature appears to be a little bit cold...

Great minds thinks alike.....
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Last night with my babe to celebrate the 10K$ again  Roll Eyes




Good good let that dompy sink in Cheesy

I do notice you’re WO material.... when 100K party Cheesy

(You’re french yes?) a close neighbour then .....


French yes but not living there since many years...
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Which babe?
I all I see are  radishes, a mac laptop, a bottle of some undetected Dom Pérignon (might be 2009?)....

You're disappointing me, if you've only seen radishes, mac and champagne... Cool
Oh yes.

I also observed it is was maybe a good thing to raise the room AC of a couple of C° as room temperature appears to be a little bit cold...

fillipoooo... you dirty boy lol

WO never cease to amaze me. The coincidences between members from so different locations, all thinking and feeling at a ryhme.
I also had a 10k celebration yesterday with my wifey. No DomPe, but drinks and chocolates involved. No lingerie, but i cant relate what happened later or post photos (NSFW  Roll Eyes)


go BTC go!
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-passes-new-milestone-as-network-mines-85-of-its-total-supply

Well if some guy on twitter says it, lol...
“Scarcity is about to kick in,” the crypto trading account known as Rhythm on Twitter commented on the event.

I think the lone comment wondering what the price will be when it is 99% mined is interesting.
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Not really sure why $10,000 is acting like hot coals. It’s not a magic fucking pot of gold, why are people treating it as so?

HODL !

It's acting more like a magnet.

24 hours ago $10,000

Right now $10,000
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Playing a little bit!
Notes:
- prep: percent of change in rep (replies) between two continuous months.
- pview: percent of change in total views (views) between two continuous months.
- ppages: percent of change in total pages (pages) between two continuous months.
- pbtc: percent of change in BTC price (btc) between two continuous months.

Assumptions:
Statistics are for first days of months.

Code:
. list id day month2 year date rep repchange views pages btc prep pview ppages pbtc, abb(30)

     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
     | id   day   month2   year        date      rep   repchange      views   pages     btc   prep   pview   ppages     pbtc |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. |  1     1        1   2019   01jan2019   452916        6406   21006158   22563    3459      .       .        .        . |
  2. |  2     1        2   2019   01feb2019   459605        6689   21042628   22974    3901   1.48     .17     1.82    12.78 |
  3. |  3     1        3   2019   01mar2019   465823        6218   21079099   23292    4103   1.35     .17     1.38     5.18 |
  4. |  4     1        4   2019   01apr2019   473225        7402   21133357   23662    5270   1.59     .26     1.59    28.44 |
  5. |  5     1        5   2019   01may2019   480783        7558   21193583   24040    8501    1.6     .28      1.6    61.31 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  6. |  6     1        6   2019   01jun2019   488192        7409   21256108   24410   11262   1.54      .3     1.54    32.48 |
  7. |  7     1        7   2019   01jul2019   493567        5375   21307690   24679   10052    1.1     .24      1.1   -10.74 |
     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Percents of changes between months are nearly the same for total replies; total pages that likely fluctuated between 1 percent to nearly 1.9 percent.
Percents of changes between months for total views are significantly lower for total views; all months have figures below 1 percent, ranges from 0.17% to 0.3%.
Within same seven-month period, the percents of changes between months for BTC price have min and max at -10.7% and 61.3%, respectively.

It is more interesting if dataset is available for more past months (in 2018, 2017 or longer).
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Playing a little bit!
Notes:
- prep: percent of change in rep (replies) between two continuous months.
- pview: percent of change in total views (views) between two continuous months.
- ppages: percent of change in total pages (pages) between two continuous months.
- pbtc: percent of change in BTC price (btc) between two continuous months.

Assumptions:
Statistics are for first days of months.

Code:
. list id day month2 year date rep repchange views pages btc prep pview ppages pbtc, abb(30)

     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
     | id   day   month2   year        date      rep   repchange      views   pages     btc   prep   pview   ppages     pbtc |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. |  1     1        1   2019   01jan2019   452916        6406   21006158   22563    3459      .       .        .        . |
  2. |  2     1        2   2019   01feb2019   459605        6689   21042628   22974    3901   1.48     .17     1.82    12.78 |
  3. |  3     1        3   2019   01mar2019   465823        6218   21079099   23292    4103   1.35     .17     1.38     5.18 |
  4. |  4     1        4   2019   01apr2019   473225        7402   21133357   23662    5270   1.59     .26     1.59    28.44 |
  5. |  5     1        5   2019   01may2019   480783        7558   21193583   24040    8501    1.6     .28      1.6    61.31 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  6. |  6     1        6   2019   01jun2019   488192        7409   21256108   24410   11262   1.54      .3     1.54    32.48 |
  7. |  7     1        7   2019   01jul2019   493567        5375   21307690   24679   10052    1.1     .24      1.1   -10.74 |
     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Percents of changes between months are nearly the same for total replies; total pages that likely fluctuated between 1 percent to nearly 1.9 percent.
Percents of changes between months for total views are significantly lower for total views; all months have figures below 1 percent, ranges from 0.17% to 0.3%.
Within same seven-month period, the percents of changes between months for BTC price have min and max at -10.7% and 61.3%, respectively.

It is more interesting if dataset is available for more past months (in 2018, 2017 or longer).

Good job.



A few months ago I asked the members of WO:

How they want statistics, with data or images?

They prefer images Cheesy
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Good job.



A few months ago I asked the members of WO:

How they want statistics, with data or images?

They prefer images Cheesy
Thank you. I can give you plots (images), but they are boring plots with just 6 datapoints. I need more data to have attractive plots. If I don't have more datapoints, I do not need to draw boring plots.
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Good job.



A few months ago I asked the members of WO:

How they want statistics, with data or images?

They prefer images Cheesy
Thank you. I can give you plots (images), but they are boring plots with just 6 datapoints. I need more data to have attractive plots. If I don't have more datapoints, I do not need to draw boring plots.

Don't worry it's an ironic comment.

The story before 2018 is difficult for me, all the data, except the price of Bitcoin, is extracted from the archive org, many data are missing in previous years.

Maybe you or LoyceV have the possibility to scrape the data in another way and get the complete history.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg50843773#msg50843773
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Last night with my babe to celebrate the 10K$ again  Roll Eyes

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Why you are so embittered with everything ?

I think you really have (or had) problems in your life to act like this.

Don't worry about my "babe" we are together since more than 7years, she owns businesses and earn his life without me.

So don't be stupid, and enjoy the life, basta.
Jealous drivel...  Comme d'habitude.
It hasn't a chance in hell of ever being in a scene like that.

Just ignore it. When you quote it, it gets the horn. It knows everyone who already ignores it can see its putrid stuff and encourages it.
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This one's about more FUD from centralized institutions, this time in the UK...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/08/01/bitcoin-has-no-intrinsic-value-as-uk-moves-towards-crypto-ban/#5617b0ad2d27

I guess it's hard to steer a boat when it has centuries worth of inertia. They'll come around eventually of course but I don't think it's going to be a particularly smooth ride for us.

I particularly like this quote:
"Although not a ban, [the U.K.'s FCA warning is] a move in that direction," said Herbert Sim, head of business development from Broctagon Fintech Group. "This lack of enthusiasm is shared by several countries; the U.S. with its scrutiny of libra, and India, who are looking to implement a similar ban on cryptocurrencies which are not state regulated. These movements could end up coming back to bite. The international competition on cryptocurrencies is heating up and there are huge risks in being left behind."

The actual quote in the UK bit merely spoke about some parts of the market being unregulated and beyond the scope of the regulators - and urged caution.

This is consistent with UK gov't stance and nowhere near talking of a 'Bitcoin ban' - the UK has never to my knowledge ever considered banning Bitcoin and government is quite happy to issue tax advice about it and allow pension funds to offer (limited) derivative products based upon crypto - provided risk advice is given.

As you said - FUD indeed!
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The story before 2018 is difficult for me, all the data, except the price of Bitcoin, is extracted from the archive org, many data are missing in previous years.

Maybe you or LoyceV have the possibility to scrape the data in another way and get the complete history.
I don't have skills to scrap data, LOL.
Anyway, it is good if you can confirm figures are for start or end day of each month. By now, I assumed figures are for first day of months.
Finished (but will edit a bit after receiving your confirmation). Enjoy!
Data source (from @VB1001):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg52028093#msg52028093
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg52029308#msg52029308

Due to data gaps, I chose to start from Oct. 2017, till Jul. 2019.
  • The thread will be updated monthly, with data dump from @VB1001.
  • All percent of changes calculated for two continuous months.

Assumptions:
Statistics are for first days of months.

Converted dataset:
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. list id day month2 year date rep repchange views pages btc prep ppages pview pbtc, abb(30)

     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
     | id   day   month2   year        date      rep   repchange      views   pages     btc   prep   ppages   pview     pbtc |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. |  1     1       10   2017   01oct2017   361446           .   19386138   18703    6380      .        .       .        . |
  2. |  2     1       11   2017   01nov2017   368288        6842   19749672   18415    9786   1.89    -1.54    1.88    53.39 |
  3. |  3     1       12   2017   01dec2017   380800       12512   20076512   19041   13186    3.4      3.4    1.65    34.74 |
  4. |  4     1        1   2018   01jan2018   386480        5680   20118498   19325   10138   1.49     1.49     .21   -23.12 |
  5. |  5     1        2   2018   01feb2018   396480       10000   20185277   19825   10629   2.59     2.59     .33     4.84 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  6. |  6     1        3   2018   01mar2018   402460        5980   20222795   20109    7119   1.51     1.43     .19   -33.02 |
  7. |  7     1        4   2018   01apr2018   407457        4997   20247143   20288    9275   1.24      .89     .12    30.29 |
  8. |  8     1        5   2018   01may2018   410507        3050   20280891   20526    7559    .75     1.17     .17    -18.5 |
  9. |  9     1        6   2018   01jun2018   416730        6223   20315481   20787    6457   1.52     1.27     .17   -14.58 |
 10. | 10     1        7   2018   01jul2018   419443        2713   20341078   20975    7848    .65       .9     .13    21.54 |
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 11. | 11     1        8   2018   01aug2018   424622        5179   20413924   21132    6935   1.23      .75     .36   -11.63 |
 12. | 12     1        9   2018   01sep2018   426942        2320   20474102   21288    6633    .55      .74     .29    -4.35 |
 13. | 13     1       10   2018   01oct2018   430939        3997   20650285   21447    6642    .94      .75     .86      .14 |
 14. | 14     1       11   2018   01nov2018   437199        6260   20782977   21810    4015   1.45     1.69     .64   -39.55 |
 15. | 15     1       12   2018   01dec2018   446510        9311   20926425   22296    3800   2.13     2.23     .69    -5.35 |
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 16. | 16     1        1   2019   01jan2019   452916        6406   21006158   22563    3459   1.43      1.2     .38    -8.97 |
 17. | 17     1        2   2019   01feb2019   459605        6689   21042628   22974    3901   1.48     1.82     .17    12.78 |
 18. | 18     1        3   2019   01mar2019   465823        6218   21079099   23292    4103   1.35     1.38     .17     5.18 |
 19. | 19     1        4   2019   01apr2019   473225        7402   21133357   23662    5270   1.59     1.59     .26    28.44 |
 20. | 20     1        5   2019   01may2019   480783        7558   21193583   24040    8501    1.6      1.6     .28    61.31 |
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 21. | 21     1        6   2019   01jun2019   488192        7409   21256108   24410   11262   1.54     1.54      .3    32.48 |
 22. | 22     1        7   2019   01jul2019   493567        5375   21307690   24679   10052    1.1      1.1     .24   -10.74 |
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Notes on variables:
- rep: total replies
- repchange: change of total replies between two months
- views: total views
- pages: total pages
- btc: BTC price
- prep: percent of change in rep (replies) between two continuous months.
- pview: percent of change in total views (views) between two continuous months.
- ppages: percent of change in total pages (pages) between two continuous months.
- pbtc: percent of change in BTC price (btc) between two continuous months.

Results:
Period of observations (22 months, Oct. 2017 - Jul. 2019)

  • Percent of changes of total replies has its min and max at 0.55 and 3.4, on 01 Sep. 2018 and 01 Dec. 2017, respectively.
  • Percent of changes of total pages has its min and max at -1.54 and 3.4, on 01 Nov. 2017 and 01 Dec. 2017, respectively.
  • Percent of changes of total views has its min and max at 0.12 and 1.88, on 01 Nov. 2017 and 01 Apr. 2018, respectively.
  • Percent of changes of BTC price has its min and max at -33.02% and 61.3%, on 01 Mar.2018 and 01 May 2019, respectively.

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