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[kurious]

In 2021 for sure, I’m not certain of that in 2020 but would love to be wrong.

My feeling as well ... the increase in 2020 is probably modest, but I expect / hope that we reach a new ATH in 2021 or 2022.

Main reason; the cycles are getting more spread out, and the halving is probably more anticipated now than the last time (more energy efficient miners, and so on). So I don't expect any fireworks starting before Q3 / Q4 2020.

I'd love to be wrong as well though, of course!

There is as yet no evidence that the cycle is lengthening.   Any real mooning in 2020 would be (if anything) a tad early as four years from 2017 would mean 2021.

This year's halving will be almost seven weeks earlier than in 2016 which may have some effect, but I doubt a massive one, cycle-wise.  After the last halving the price spent months doing little until towards the end of 2016, and it didn't break the ATH until into early 2017.  It ended 2016 only a little over twice the price it was at the start of that year.

If a four year cycle is intact, the price was ahead of itself in the middle of last year, but it is now back roughly in line with a repeat of 2015 / 2016.  The model (if it were to exactly repeat) would see a spike around the halving and then a dip... then a spike up (but not ATH) around November December this year (2020).  The seven weeks earlier may affect things with that timeline and pull an ATH into this year - but in any case we already veered off it once quite massively, so what honey badger will do is obviously far from predictable with any certainty.

A lengthening cycle is neither proven nor disproven, yet.  That said, so far it's more likely IMHO that if we are to have another 'mooning' it will be late in 2021 - with the ATH broken possibly in late 2020, but more likely early 2021.

Just my thoughts at the start of this halving year.  My gut instinct says:

Trust Satoshi's design, be patient, but stay strapped in.

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[JayJuanGee]

EDIT: you English natives seems to be friends of many words without so much content. how does it come?

damn you JJG

one reason could be to impress women before the night but in JJG's case it doesn't count, right?  

I was going to abstain from this whiny discussion, but some dummy seems to be goading.

Hint:  The mere fact that you don't understand egwish too good does not indicate that words don't mean nuttin.  

Sucks to be ONLY with lil bit vocabulario.    AmiNOTrite?

so JJG make a lot of words because it is more colorful for him to write many words and his subconsciousness tells him it would for us also be more colorful which is not.

You are going to make it a long way in life if you are in the cave trying to gather meanings from shadows rather than just getting into the light.

In other words, you are wasting your time, but hey, if you want to dwell in petty, that is your prerogative (as bobby brown might have said).

[edited out]

Good lord.  You twisted almost everything I said into something I did not mean and then wagged your finger at me.

I am going to be much clearer:

Why did I unmute you?!?!? You are an asshat.

I am glad that Gyrsur is not the only one with limited comprehension skills, and lack of ability to engage without becoming overly defensive.  You might want to join/create a club.  

[Gyrsur]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it is very different.

[kurious]

JJG squabbling...

Good lord.  You twisted almost everything I said into something I did not mean and then wagged your finger at me.

I am going to be much clearer:

Why did I unmute you?!?!? You are an asshat.

Mate, it is Thursday. I think WO rules mean you could simply have said STFU JJG.

Would probably have been easier

[Gyrsur]

JJG squabbling...

Good lord.  You twisted almost everything I said into something I did not mean and then wagged your finger at me.

I am going to be much clearer:

Why did I unmute you?!?!? You are an asshat.

Mate, it is Thursday. I think WO rules mean you could simply have said STFU JJG.

Would probably have been easier

did not get it with the Thursday. heard of it but do not understand it. maybe you should start a second thread where you explain all the specialties of the WO thread.

is it something like woman menstruation once a month and for JJG once a week on Thursday? man, this is a waste of energy isn't it?

[xhomerx10]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it  is very different.

 Allow me to translate that into the more concise German language - Halt die Fresse, JJG.


 edit: I think I made a mistake.  Should it be deine rather than die?

[Gyrsur]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it  is very different.

 Allow me to translate that into the more concise German language - Halt die Fresse, JJG.

it is correct in German but to rude. i do respect JJG but we are living on different planets. 

[kurious]

EDIT: you English natives seems to be friends of many words without so much content. how does it come?

Interesting.

I heard a smart German say something once about the English.  He said 'Germans say what they mean, they don't realise that English have a huge lexicon of words to call upon to avoid saying what they mean.  Indeed they sometimes mean the opposite'

In a meeting for instance a German will think if he makes a comment and someone around the table replies with "interesting" it is a positive thing.  

Actually it is usually a word that someone who is English will use to interrupt you in order to stop you talking any further.

The German was quite right.

ok, interesting.   (true meaning: very interesting)

but let it extend to domains of personal relationships like with friends or with your wive/girlfriend.

why is it sometimes better to circle around the very truth? because is it to brutal and offense? are women or gays to sensitive to receive it on point?

or is it for women or gays more interesting to go around it for a while. it's like a game, right? it will make life more colorful and not so boring for them, right? --> but it will consume more energy which is not necessary if you go the direct way.

so JJG make a lot of words because it is more colorful for him to write many words and his subconsciousness tells him it would for us also be more colorful which is not.

so conclusion for my life exploring could be: all is easy if you have enough energy to spend but if you haven't it could become very ugly.

I didn't say anything about women or gays, I can't quite see what that has to do with anything about the usage of English. 

I think I am probably correct in saying there are just as many women or gay people as a proportion of the English population as there are of the German population.  I also happily assume that just as many Germans as English think that sweeping assumptions, stereotyping them negatively is not exactly a display of intelligence. 

I was just trying to explain why the English don't always say what they mean.  Then I tried to explain what 'interesting' meant, having used the word. 

I am of course, English.  Please excuse me if I was too subtle.

[Gyrsur]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it  is very different.

edit: I think I made a mistake.  Should it be deine rather than die?

no, no it is very correct. I had the impression for a moment you are familiar with German.

Both is correct but the first one is more nonpersonal and fits more to the intention to attack the other party very rude.

"Halt die Fresse" versus "Halt deine Fresse"

If you want to punch someone into the face this is the sentence you might say right before the punch.

[JayJuanGee]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it is very different.

Truly non-sequiturs.. and providing sufficient evidence of my earlier points.   

In other words, you might have a few screws that are not quite tight, Gyrsur. 

Or, you might be needing some tuning up, or maybe even some blowing out the clogged pipes?   

[LUCKMCFLY]

Bitcoin is showing positive signals..

Technical indicators:

Hourly MACD – The MACD is slowly reducing its bearish slope.

Hourly RSI (Relative Strength Index) – The RSI for BTC/USD is now above the 50 level, with positive signs.

Major Support Levels – $7,325 followed by $7,200.

Major Resistance Levels – $7,400, $7,420 and $7,500.

Source: https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/12/30/bitcoin-rally-not-likely-over/

[JayJuanGee]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it  is very different.

edit: I think I made a mistake.  Should it be deine rather than die?

no, no it is very correct. I had the impression for a moment you are familiar with German.

Both is correct but the first one is more nonpersonal and fits more to the intention to attack the other party very rude.

"Halt die Fresse" versus "Halt deine Fresse"

If you want to punch someone into the face this is the sentence you might say right before the punch.

At least we are learning some German culture in all of this, so there is that.... little side benefit. 


"distraction with benefits."

[Gyrsur]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it is very different.

Truly non-sequiturs.. and providing sufficient evidence of my earlier points.   

In other words, you might have a few screws that are not quite tight, Gyrsur. 

Or, you might be needing some tuning up, or maybe even some blowing out the clogged pipes?   

I'm a bot , JJG. I'm constantly improving my skills. there is no reason to overreact to anything.  

[JayJuanGee]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it is very different.

Truly non-sequiturs.. and providing sufficient evidence of my earlier points.    

In other words, you might have a few screws that are not quite tight, Gyrsur.  

Or, you might be needing some tuning up, or maybe even some blowing out the clogged pipes?  

I'm a bot , JJG. I'm constantly improving my skills. there is no reason to overreact to anything.  

Who said that I was overreacting, you?  the butt bot?

I suppose that since you are a bot, you cannot distinguish between "reacting" and "overreacting?"


So much funzies, brought to you by the Gyrsur butt bot.  Thank you for all of those side-trackening benefits, Gyrsur.   



So many pleasures and much wow, too.   

[Gyrsur]

EDIT: you English natives seems to be friends of many words without so much content. how does it come?

Interesting.

I heard a smart German say something once about the English.  He said 'Germans say what they mean, they don't realise that English have a huge lexicon of words to call upon to avoid saying what they mean.  Indeed they sometimes mean the opposite'

In a meeting for instance a German will think if he makes a comment and someone around the table replies with "interesting" it is a positive thing.  

Actually it is usually a word that someone who is English will use to interrupt you in order to stop you talking any further.

The German was quite right.

ok, interesting.   (true meaning: very interesting)

but let it extend to domains of personal relationships like with friends or with your wive/girlfriend.

why is it sometimes better to circle around the very truth? because is it to brutal and offense? are women or gays to sensitive to receive it on point?

or is it for women or gays more interesting to go around it for a while. it's like a game, right? it will make life more colorful and not so boring for them, right? --> but it will consume more energy which is not necessary if you go the direct way.

so JJG make a lot of words because it is more colorful for him to write many words and his subconsciousness tells him it would for us also be more colorful which is not.

so conclusion for my life exploring could be: all is easy if you have enough energy to spend but if you haven't it could become very ugly.

I didn't say anything about women or gays, I can't quite see what that has to do with anything about the usage of English. 

I think I am probably correct in saying there are just as many women or gay people as a proportion of the English population as there are of the German population.  I also happily assume that just as many Germans as English think that sweeping assumptions, stereotyping them negatively is not exactly a display of intelligence. 

I was just trying to explain why the English don't always say what they mean.  Then I tried to explain what 'interesting' meant, having used the word. 

I am of course, English.  Please excuse me if I was too subtle.

I won't discuss it any further. anyway, thank you for your contribution!

[Gyrsur]

hey JJG it is not our fault that the price is not going up so fast and therefore your Rick is not able to go into retirement, ok?

EDIT: next life learning point could be: if you have enough energy don't take verbal attacks of your woman/girlfriend not to personal because it could be the true reason of it is very different.

Truly non-sequiturs.. and providing sufficient evidence of my earlier points.   

In other words, you might have a few screws that are not quite tight, Gyrsur. 

Or, you might be needing some tuning up, or maybe even some blowing out the clogged pipes?   

I'm a bot , JJG. I'm constantly improving my skills. there is no reason to overreact to anything.  

Who said that I was overreacting, you?  the butt bot?

I suppose that since you are a bot, you cannot distinguish between "reacting" and "overreacting?"

#system error#

please call the president if you are convinced it might be a case for the safety of the United States of America.

[Hueristic]

Speaking of which... maybe you can clean out your brain from that piece by consuming this:
https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/nick-szabo-on-cypherpunks-money-and-bitcoin

Thanks man listening now.

[El duderino_]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214437.msg53505850#msg53505850

come and join Cheers

[jbreher]

in German ....

EDIT: you English natives seems to be friends of many words without so much content.

OTOH, we don't try to stuff complete sentences, with multiple independent clauses, into a single word.

Same OTOH as the Dash whale?

No, that's otoh.

On The Other Hand.

Sorry for confusing l33tspeak.

[Icygreen]

Too many moonbois, need more pain.
BTC is so far the worst performing asset of 2020   
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