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Question: Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?
Myself only - 25 (30.9%)
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My family - 10 (12.3%)
Close friends - 11 (13.6%)
All of the above - 25 (30.9%)
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December 19, 2019, 06:32:02 PM

Bakkt’s Cash Settled Bitcoin Futures on 7 Day Volume Pump

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Bakkt’s official Twitter account noted that the recently introduced cash settled Bitcoin futures market has been trading at a volume of over 1,000 lots consistently for 7 days now.
Some in the cryptocurrency space still debate how positive this really is for Bitcoin.

https://beincrypto.com/bakkts-cash-settled-bitcoin-futures-on-7-day-volume-pump/
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December 19, 2019, 07:08:08 PM
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Where can I get some of these new Proof of Text JJG coins?

Well, I am glad that you asked, Globb0.*

Roger, Richard (RR) and me, soon to be known as JRR or RJR or RRJ("we" have not yet decided on our updated acronym), will be making an announcement soon.tm - perhaps in two weeks.tm  

We are considering a conference, too, and might even include roach for our PMs angle (roach is a much cheaper option than Peter Schiff).... to add another "R" into our acronym mixenings that will go along with edumacating peeps in respect to pumpementals that will also be debuting soon.tm  As many of you know, Roach knows a lot about how to make a good solid investment that "holds its value," especially relative to the dollar, and you don't even need a small truck to carry the value around.  A regular car with tinted windows or a trunk will do just fine.   Wink

Stay tuned!!!!

*Disclaimer: Everyone is a scammer.. even your good ole used-to-be buddies in the Wall Observer thread from wwwwwaaaaaayyyyy back.  #nohomo      Cry Cry Cry
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Bakkt’s Cash Settled Bitcoin Futures on 7 Day Volume Pump

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Bakkt’s official Twitter account noted that the recently introduced cash settled Bitcoin futures market has been trading at a volume of over 1,000 lots consistently for 7 days now.
Some in the cryptocurrency space still debate how positive this really is for Bitcoin.

https://beincrypto.com/bakkts-cash-settled-bitcoin-futures-on-7-day-volume-pump/


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Bakkt Bitcoin Futures Only 63% Backed by BTC, Despite CEO Assurances

https://beincrypto.com/bakkt-bitcoin-futures-only-37-backed-by-btc-despite-ceo-assurances/
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Bakkt Bitcoin Futures Only 63% Backed by BTC, Despite CEO Assurances

https://beincrypto.com/bakkt-bitcoin-futures-only-37-backed-by-btc-despite-ceo-assurances/

Wait, what? That's not how they were supposed to be
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December 19, 2019, 09:29:08 PM


I am thinking that the cost are the same after the halvening.

Only the new supply that comes out of that is reduced in half.


If costs are the same, and you get half BTC on average because the "new supply" is reduced in half, the mining cost per BTC effectively doubles.


* All other factors remaining equal, as stated before.
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Interesting data.


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#Millennials are way more likely to invest in bitcoin than other generations and are moving away from conventional banking. Study by #provokeinsights found that 43% of millennials said they trusted #cryptocurrency exchanges more than US stock exchanges [Chart: #bitcoinsrhythm]

Source: https://twitter.com/BxeCapital/status/1207333268175179776

It is possible that the youngest are the most attracted to the world of cryptocurrencies, but it seems to me that if we only talk about Bitcoin, the age range that has more accumulation or interest would place it between 25/30 and 40/50.

The youngest are also naive enough to answer truthfully. Cheesy
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December 19, 2019, 09:43:34 PM

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https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1207773849296736256?s=20
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I am thinking that the cost are the same after the halvening.

Only the new supply that comes out of that is reduced in half.


If costs are the same, and you get half BTC on average because the "new supply" is reduced in half, the mining cost per BTC effectively doubles.


* All other factors remaining equal, as stated before.

I would not characterize the end sum of the amount of reward as "cost," but instead profits per BTC that is reduced by half because of costs that remain the same and reward that is half.  Otherwise, I have already made my points regarding the matter.   Wink  Semantics, perhaps?
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December 19, 2019, 09:55:24 PM

Bitcoin is like America.  The price will eventually do the right thing, after trying all other alternatives.

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December 19, 2019, 09:56:26 PM


I am thinking that the cost are the same after the halvening.

Only the new supply that comes out of that is reduced in half.


If costs are the same, and you get half BTC on average because the "new supply" is reduced in half, the mining cost per BTC effectively doubles.


* All other factors remaining equal, as stated before.

I would not characterize the end sum of the amount of reward as "cost," but instead profits per BTC that is reduced by half because of costs that remain the same and reward that is half.  Otherwise, I have already made my points regarding the matter.   Wink  Semantics, perhaps?

Jay you are hopelessly confusing revenue and profit
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I am thinking that the cost are the same after the halvening.

Only the new supply that comes out of that is reduced in half.


If costs are the same, and you get half BTC on average because the "new supply" is reduced in half, the mining cost per BTC effectively doubles.


* All other factors remaining equal, as stated before.

I would not characterize the end sum of the amount of reward as "cost," but instead profits per BTC that is reduced by half because of costs that remain the same and reward that is half.  Otherwise, I have already made my points regarding the matter.   Wink  Semantics, perhaps?

No. If we are talking about MINING COST PER BTC and after the halving you obtain HALF the BTC for the same total cost, the MINING COST *PER BTC* is effectively doubled.

What kind of really wicked semantics are you talking about? lol
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I am thinking that the cost are the same after the halvening.

Only the new supply that comes out of that is reduced in half.


If costs are the same, and you get half BTC on average because the "new supply" is reduced in half, the mining cost per BTC effectively doubles.


* All other factors remaining equal, as stated before.

I would not characterize the end sum of the amount of reward as "cost," but instead profits per BTC that is reduced by half because of costs that remain the same and reward that is half.  Otherwise, I have already made my points regarding the matter.   Wink  Semantics, perhaps?

No. If we are talking about MINING COST PER BTC and after the halving you obtain HALF the BTC for the same total cost, the MINING COST *PER BTC* is effectively doubled.

What kind of really wicked semantics are you talking about? lol

I am sticking to my guns.   Tongue

@ hairy.  Ditto my above statement.   Tongue

Now.  Let's move to a topic that we can agree on.

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Do you agree you would have to do twice the work to achieve the same result?

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I would prefer not to work at all, frankly.
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December 19, 2019, 10:06:16 PM

Do you agree you would have to work twice as hard to achieve the same result?

You are jumping in, too, Globb0?

I am just going to say:  "ditto" if anyone further attempts to interrogate me on this topic.  Otherwise, I agree with the working twice as hard part.  Tongue

Edit 1:  Look at ur lil selfie, Globb0....  Shocked Shocked  Can't even properly attach a batman pic.    Tongue   And, trying to lecture me on economical definitions.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Edit 2:  Looks like you fixed your pic attachment issue.  So I take back my comments in Edit 1.  Bitserve (or maybe Mic?) probably sent you a PM to explain... hahahahahhaha
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I have to rub my eyes I think.... Thursday and every other post is a JJG one??

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Jay you are hopelessly confusing

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Do you agree you would have to work twice as hard to achieve the same result?

You are jumping in, too, Globb0?

I am just going to say:  "ditto" if anyone further attempts to interrogate me on this topic.  Otherwise, I agree with the working twice as hard part.  Tongue

Edit:  Look at ur lil selfie, Globb0....  Shocked Shocked  Can't even properly attach a batman pic.    Tongue   And, trying to lecture me on economics.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Go on then, while you are there.

"How much alt coin diversification is needed? 0%?"

Can you cite any links or proof that this is the case? perhaps share a snap of your mystical future seeing crystal ball?

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December 19, 2019, 10:10:44 PM

47.0k BTCUSD long (valued at $337m) utilizing $124m USD margin.
BTCUSD longs costing $45k per day to #hodl.

7,475 BTCUSD shorts (valued at $54m) utilizing 6,268 BTC of margin.
BTCUSD shorts costing 0.558 BTC per day in fees.
84% of the shorts are fully collateralized.
 


Watch out guys.

We are at critical level.

If it breaks, we could insta dump very quickly - if you're long imo you should either put a stop, or manually baby-sit your position right now.

the next 24h are critical.
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