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June 04, 2020, 06:21:35 PM

Politicians are already getting busy spinning the upcoming worldwide "Great Economic Reset" as a wonderful thing:

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2020/06/03/sp060320-remarks-to-world-economic-forum-the-great-reset

But mark my words, middle class wealth will be destroyed in the process, and middle class and lower class debt will continue to grow. The wealthy elites will suffer nil.

#BUYBTC

We are the new wealthy elites gentlemen.
Hopefully we will stay here for some long time. Cheesy
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I believe the earliest gold artifacts were dug up in Bulgaria.  Looks like they have loved gold for 6000 + years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis

They need to keep digging there, they may even find the extremely rare Antminer S4000BC
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June 04, 2020, 06:29:50 PM

I watched that twice... I still don't understand what he's saying and I'm not sure he does either.

Satoshi.... rofl

He's describing signing such as is used in https ssl certificates. Bitcoin signing is completely different. He knows the difference, but someone called his bluff and he has to create another lie to cover it up.

As long as he has enough shillers to follow, they will spread every of his messages.
Either BSV goes zero, its network becomes unoperable or Craig goes to jail. Then eventually, the story of BSV may end.
But it's a part of bitcoin, too, since it's value practically comes from bitcoin through the chainsplit.

I cannot see BSV going to zero any time soon, even if Craigie weggie goes to jail.  There will be some milking of the hype of the injustice of it all for quite a while to come... And, yeah it would be nice if Craig were to go to jail, but that seems to be a kind of pie in the sky wish, and are those kinds of justices ever really achieved in the real world?

  Of course, there could be some major BSV price fluctuations (including DOWNity) and even attacks on the BSV network that could help BSV in the direction of achieving somewhere close to its true value (which I agree to be at or near zero), yet we have seen too many fucked up/scam projects in this space that continue to get pumpenings without much if any reasonable considerations about their actual value there.. I think Onecoin serves as one of those examples.
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This guy has the answers...
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1268347880731009026
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... sars-cov-2 manmade bioengineered chimeric virus leaked from lab in wuhan ... Confirmed
retired chief spook from UK saying china let it run to rest of world so they were not uniquely disadvantaged, smells a lot like limited hangout to distract from the civil unrest and directed anger away from military intelligence surveillance complex western elites have built and back at china
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/exclusive-coronavirus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/
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June 04, 2020, 06:37:44 PM

I watched that twice... I still don't understand what he's saying and I'm not sure he does either.

Satoshi.... rofl

He's describing signing such as is used in https ssl certificates. Bitcoin signing is completely different. He knows the difference, but someone called his bluff and he has to create another lie to cover it up.

As long as he has enough shillers to follow, they will spread every of his messages.
Either BSV goes zero, its network becomes unoperable or Craig goes to jail. Then eventually, the story of BSV may end.
But it's a part of bitcoin, too, since it's value practically comes from bitcoin through the chainsplit.

I cannot see BSV going to zero any time soon, even if Craigie weggie goes to jail.  There will be some milking of the hype of the injustice of it all for quite a while to come... And, yeah it would be nice if Craig were to go to jail, but that seems to be a kind of pie in the sky wish, and are those kinds of justices ever really achieved in the real world?

  Of course, there could be some major BSV price fluctuations (including DOWNity) and even attacks on the BSV network that could help BSV in the direction of achieving somewhere close to its true value (which I agree to be at or near zero), yet we have seen too many fucked up/scam projects in this space that continue to get pumpenings without much if any reasonable considerations about their actual value there.. I think Onecoin serves as one of those examples.

Shyte, i forgot to include an "if". I don't believe that any of the three will happen likely or soon, but should act as catalyst to push BSV into the corner of "obsolete" or "unused".
I do agree with you more than you might think.
I even think that a split chain should start with no value at all. Like btc did back then. If that forks would even exist if it would be that way.
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June 04, 2020, 06:39:10 PM


I remember that Bulgaria had proclaimed to have been HODLing more than 200k BTC from the proceeds of various crimes.. or something like that, but I do not recall ever hearing about any proclamation or news that they no longer HODL such BTC, and surely they could choose to diversify (like you said), but diversification does not seem to make a whole lot of sense, except admittedly, most traditional financial advisors would likely believe that they understand gold better than bitcoin, and likely would be more comfortable in HODLing value in gold than in BTC... even though many of us BTC advocates have difficulties considering gold as being anywhere close to bitcoin in terms of actual upside potential (surely, the view of a BTC advocate is in competition with the concept of the perceived "store of value" narrative that would be difficult to shake from the heads of a lot of traditional investors).
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June 04, 2020, 06:41:06 PM
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For me it is the best prediction model.

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Some say S2F(X) model must be wrong because #BTC price is determined solely by scarcity (supply) and demand does not play a role.

However Nobel prize winning Capital Asset Pricing Model (CAPM) determines asset returns solely based on risk (volatility, dd) .. no demand, no supply





Source: https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1268610182793228288
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June 04, 2020, 06:42:58 PM

... sars-cov-2 manmade bioengineered chimeric virus leaked from lab in wuhan ... Confirmed
retired chief spook from UK saying china let it run to rest of world so they were not uniquely disadvantaged, smells a lot like limited hangout to distract from the civil unrest and directed anger away from military intelligence surveillance complex western elites have built and back at china
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/exclusive-coronavirus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

Confirmed by R0ach?

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A former head of MI6 has said he believes the coronavirus pandemic "started as an accident" when the virus escaped from a laboratory in China.

See, there are people believing that the earth is hollow (and there's even more to it).
So it's confirmed then? No?

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June 04, 2020, 06:47:56 PM

... sars-cov-2 manmade bioengineered chimeric virus leaked from lab in wuhan ... Confirmed
retired chief spook from UK saying china let it run to rest of world so they were not uniquely disadvantaged, smells a lot like limited hangout to distract from the civil unrest and directed anger away from military intelligence surveillance complex western elites have built and back at china
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/exclusive-coronavirus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

I have really always believed in this hypothesis, a virus that still does not have a cure but that has killed many people, and that at the same time has spread so hard, making some rulers worldwide have the mass of people controlled .
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June 04, 2020, 06:56:55 PM

Good thing all those stimulus checks got the public spending like crazy again!

Oh wait...lol.



Link or it did not happen.    Angry Angry Angry




By the way, I did engage in a bit of due diligence efforts, besides providing my own lovely counter image, by glancing through various pages/articles of the website reference: https://fred.stlouisfed.org, and I was not able to find the above chart.
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June 04, 2020, 06:57:22 PM

34 brothers, the dude is getting drunk older :-)

Congratulations, When you are about my age I'll be somewhere around my 90s. (That means I'll most likely be dead).
Enjoy youth, oops,forgot who I''m talking to, you already do.

Code:
x - 34 = 90 - x
2x = 124
X = 62

Is 62 yo ...

Solve for x in that avatar thingy of yours.
I tried googling it. Didn’t work out to well.
No clue what that function is. Looks cool though....
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Hey, we wanna see (at least a part ...no, no.I didn't mean this part, for sure... *g*) of the dude's new queen, too!  Cool



sorry, Patreons only for that content

My "insider" SOMAtm info is that currently, the "team" is NOT permitting those kinds of disclosures, and the dude is going to get whipped severely if he engages in such behaviors, also including the taking and/or dissemination of "pee pics".  Strict lock-down, currently in place, sources say.
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... sars-cov-2 manmade bioengineered chimeric virus leaked from lab in wuhan ... Confirmed
retired chief spook from UK saying china let it run to rest of world so they were not uniquely disadvantaged, smells a lot like limited hangout to distract from the civil unrest and directed anger away from military intelligence surveillance complex western elites have built and back at china
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/exclusive-coronavirus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

Confirmed by R0ach?

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A former head of MI6 has said he believes the coronavirus pandemic "started as an accident" when the virus escaped from a laboratory in China.

See, there are people believing that the earth is hollow (and there's even more to it).
So it's confirmed then? No?

In my mind confirmed. When these assholes finally start pointing to what was previously considered the most rabid of conspiracy theories you know it's probably correct .... but then need to ask yourself why do they admit to the truth now?

Also if you can read the article (paywalled) he does make reference to some inside running on scientific articles that will be coming out
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Good thing all those stimulus checks got the public spending like crazy again!

Oh wait...lol.



Link or it did not happen.    Angry Angry Angry

By the way, I did engage in a bit of due diligence efforts, besides providing my own lovely counter image, by glancing through various pages/articles of the website reference: https://fred.stlouisfed.org, and I was not able to find the above chart.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PSAVERT
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I watched that twice... I still don't understand what he's saying and I'm not sure he does either.

Satoshi.... rofl

He's describing signing such as is used in https ssl certificates. Bitcoin signing is completely different. He knows the difference, but someone called his bluff and he has to create another lie to cover it up.

As long as he has enough shillers to follow, they will spread every of his messages.
Either BSV goes zero, its network becomes unoperable or Craig goes to jail. Then eventually, the story of BSV may end.
But it's a part of bitcoin, too, since it's value practically comes from bitcoin through the chainsplit.

I cannot see BSV going to zero any time soon, even if Craigie weggie goes to jail.  There will be some milking of the hype of the injustice of it all for quite a while to come... And, yeah it would be nice if Craig were to go to jail, but that seems to be a kind of pie in the sky wish, and are those kinds of justices ever really achieved in the real world?

  Of course, there could be some major BSV price fluctuations (including DOWNity) and even attacks on the BSV network that could help BSV in the direction of achieving somewhere close to its true value (which I agree to be at or near zero), yet we have seen too many fucked up/scam projects in this space that continue to get pumpenings without much if any reasonable considerations about their actual value there.. I think Onecoin serves as one of those examples.

Shyte, i forgot to include an "if". I don't believe that any of the three will happen likely or soon, but should act as catalyst to push BSV into the corner of "obsolete" or "unused".
I do agree with you more than you might think.
I even think that a split chain should start with no value at all. Like btc did back then. If that forks would even exist if it would be that way.

Surely, over time, we have seen some forks (and even coins) gain more value than others in terms of being able to get some kind of traction, publicity and/or marketing angle, and getting the coin on a few exchanges (even if rinky dink exchanges) can be somewhat helpful in establishing an initial market that is much above zero (over valued in the consideration of many of us, but still way more than zero for an initial value).  I doubt that any kind of wishing away the phenomena is going to stop shitcoins from establishing way more value than they deserve, and surely, if they can get some traction with people willing to buy them or to hold them, then they are likely to make the founders more rich than they deserve to be.. look at HEX in that regard, too (not really wanting to give attention any specific shitcoin, except to criticize it for its scamminess).
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Thanx for link mate!
Had no idea where that was going till the end. Lmao
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- A troop of monkeys in India attacked a medical official and snatched away blood samples of patients who had tested positive for Coronavirus.

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... sars-cov-2 manmade bioengineered chimeric virus leaked from lab in wuhan ... Confirmed
retired chief spook from UK saying china let it run to rest of world so they were not uniquely disadvantaged, smells a lot like limited hangout to distract from the civil unrest and directed anger away from military intelligence surveillance complex western elites have built and back at china
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/exclusive-coronavirus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

Confirmed by R0ach?

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A former head of MI6 has said he believes the coronavirus pandemic "started as an accident" when the virus escaped from a laboratory in China.

See, there are people believing that the earth is hollow (and there's even more to it).
So it's confirmed then? No?

In my mind confirmed. When these assholes finally start pointing to what was previously considered the most rabid of conspiracy theories you know it's probably correct .... but then need to ask yourself why do they admit to the truth now?

Also if you can read the article (paywalled) he does make reference to some inside running on scientific articles that will be coming out
https://archive.vn/ggZxH archive of that ^


https://www.investopedia.com/news/which-governments-are-hoarding-bitcoin/
https://www.novinite.com/articles/197339/Bulgaria+did+not+Hold+Bitcoin+Worth+%241.6+Billion%2C+Finance+Minister+Claimed
afair other times 'an official lost it', or one said 'no we hodl it, sure', seems to be a new version every so often
only time may tell who controls those keys
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爱国恨党

Google translate of course mashes this up.


Love the country, hate the government.
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