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June 06, 2020, 06:26:47 AM
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Here is another video of the man who was pushed over backwards by the police and cracked his head.

It turns out that he had picked up a dropped police helmet and went to hand it back to them....  that’s when they pushed him over

https://i.imgur.com/yb5Lejz.mp4

Don't show it to bitserve it'll totally undermine his "confrontation" narrative.

As much tragic this incident is, the reaction of the cops was totally predictable (the push away). What you see in the video is an anti-riot squad that someone has ordered to be deployed to clear the zone. When the man approaches them they have just started to advance in formation. Never, ever, be caught in their path as their orders are to remove/disperse everyone from there by non-letal force and to try their best effort not to break formation. Why the man was not aware of what was happening right in front of him is a wonder.

An anti-riot (they are easily recognisable by their vests and equipment so it's hard to miss them) unit is not your friendly cop you can talk to. An anti-riot squad is "something" you know it is surely going to beat you (with batons most of the time) if you manage to be in it's close proximity when they start advancing. That's the orders they have and that's what they did with the unfortunate ending.

If you want someone to blame, blame whomever ordered them to do "their thing" right there, because what they did is exactly what they are expected to do. That's probably why they have resigned from the squad.

Unfortunately there are thousands of clear cases of police brutality and even cold blood murdering that are a way better example of the situation than this one.


That only proves that the issue is at the system level. I doubt that IDing cops and realizing that standing in front of riot police automatically gets you a beat down is such a common knowledge you claim it to be. But that's how the system is set up, cops on the front line are hiding behind the "my orders" defense. And when shit hits the fan the system just sacrifices few scapegoat to please the masses long enough so they forget about it and move on. Ultimately people don't care about logistics. If there's injustice, you cause death or great bodily harm to non violent offenders=the city burns. Kinda obviously logical don't you think? As far as outcomes, either protests will die down after few more scapegoats and empty promises, or system will be changed. Both supervisor giving the order to push forward in front of the old man as well as the individual cops should be held liable (exactly how they do it to people https://www.aclu.org/issues/capital-punishment/when-state-kills-those-who-didnt-kill). Of course that means pretty much disbanding and retraining every single cop with new guidelines.

I have just realised what you have just said maybe is key here. In US people are already used (and more than justifiably angry) to police brutality and abuse but... maybe riot police is a rare thing that isn't usually employed nor there are dedicated teams? If people would confuse their action such as that of a regular cop I totally understand the surprise and anger over their (pretty standard) procedure.

In fact now that I rewatch the video, they indeed almost broke formation during the confusion, something a dedicated squad wouldn't do. Maybe they are regular cops that just received a very basic anti riot training and gear after the riots started?

Riot police is usually harmless, as long as you fucking go out of their way when they start advancing because their main mission is just to disperse riots, that's all. They are not even going to run after you unless you do something crazily stupid. Of course, people need to know that beforehand, otherwise they won't understand why they are being beaten with batons and how they could have easily avoided it in first place.
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June 06, 2020, 06:39:09 AM

Here is a homeless man in a wheelchair.  

He was not participating in the demonstration.  He was just there.

However the LAPD have decided to shoot him in the face with a rubber bullet at close range.

This is not a nice thing to do.  This is not what normal police officers do.  As one police chief explains:

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According to the Trace, the Minneapolis Police Department’s use-of-force policy strongly advises against pointing 40 mm launchers — which are used to deploy rubber bullets, beanbag rounds, and sponge rounds — above a person’s lower extremities. The policy also acknowledges that the projectiles can cause “grievous” injuries, and in some cases, death. Rubber bullets should be used only to control “an extremely dangerous crowd,” Brian Higgins, a former police chief, told Kaiser Health News.






Bonus picture. A 15 girl is sitting on the ground blinded by pepper spray.  So a cop casually walks up to her and kicks her in the face.  



https://twitter.com/jeffshafer/status/1268684973604814857?s=21

Some of you may consider the cop to be a hero for kicking a seated girl in the face. I don’t. 


The Police in the US is the opposite of serving and to protecting the ordinary people, but it is not a wonder or coincidence, that the US is always using force to protect their interests. Despite that, i do not really see a correlation and causality for the guy in the wheelchair or the girl on the ground to be blindly involved and hit by force, but that seems to be a educational problem in the US in general. The only ones that should be protected are those victims, aka ordinary people, from the police in the US  Angry
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June 06, 2020, 07:00:40 AM

General reminder that people with too high IQ are not allowed to be cops.
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June 06, 2020, 07:03:09 AM
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Zero, in the poll, currently collecting and stacking sats, my vote in a normal BTC situation would be option 1.

#StrongHats

Agreed.
On a more stupid and ironic note I would use the following hashtag based on yours
#StrongCats
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June 06, 2020, 07:10:21 AM

Voted 51-60%. Will definitely buy back all or nearly all during the bear market that will follow.
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June 06, 2020, 08:36:57 AM
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You know what shits me about Bitcoin ?

It goes up fast and then slowly falls.

We spend 90% of the time falling in price.

Bear take the stairs. Bulls take a rocket.
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June 06, 2020, 09:12:02 AM

Yeah, and sometimes we're slowly gaining for a week, just to lose all those gains in 15 minutes.

Depends on the season.
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June 06, 2020, 09:29:52 AM

Here is a homeless man in a wheelchair.  

He was not participating in the demonstration.  He was just there.

However the LAPD have decided to shoot him in the face with a rubber bullet at close range.

This is not a nice thing to do.  This is not what normal police officers do.  As one police chief explains:

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According to the Trace, the Minneapolis Police Department’s use-of-force policy strongly advises against pointing 40 mm launchers — which are used to deploy rubber bullets, beanbag rounds, and sponge rounds — above a person’s lower extremities. The policy also acknowledges that the projectiles can cause “grievous” injuries, and in some cases, death. Rubber bullets should be used only to control “an extremely dangerous crowd,” Brian Higgins, a former police chief, told Kaiser Health News.






Bonus picture. A 15 girl is sitting on the ground blinded by pepper spray.  So a cop casually walks up to her and kicks her in the face.  



https://twitter.com/jeffshafer/status/1268684973604814857?s=21

Some of you may consider the cop to be a hero for kicking a seated girl in the face. I don’t.  


The Police in the US is the opposite of serving and to protecting the ordinary people, but it is not a wonder or coincidence, that the US is always using force to protect their interests. Despite that, i do not really see a correlation and causality for the guy in the wheelchair or the girl on the ground to be blindly involved and hit by force, but that seems to be a educational problem in the US in general. The only ones that should be protected are those victims, aka ordinary people, from the police in the US  Angry

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His board kicked him out ?

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June 06, 2020, 11:37:17 AM
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Haven't been online much recently, did I miss much here?
Hi again to fellow hat wearers out there  Cheesy

Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

It's only been a couple of months, I remember the drop, looks like price has moved up nicely from the $7K area where I thought it would pull-back  Cool
Hopefully I've come back in time to try and pick out the short-term top of this nice rally Cheesy But likelihood is I'll be wrong again  Tongue

Surely, as you have suggested, nothing can be taken for granted in bitcoin.

Many times it would be logical to presume that if there is a lot of UPward BTC price movement, then a correction would be in order.  However, we have crossed a decent amount of these sub $10k prices several times in the past, and sometimes bitcoin has shown itself to just be tired of continuing to pass through a range that it has passed through so many times.

In other words, sometimes it just becomes time to move on and to move up... but when that time comes is frequently difficult to identify with any kind of short-term precision.. so frequently, the most profitable folks in bitcoin seems to be those who error on the side of mostly preparing for UP, and maybe taking a slight hedging position in down - even though the down hedging position could remove some of the UP profits, in the even that outrageous exorbitant UP ends up coming at some point... which is far from guaranteed.

Nice to hear your take on things again. I'm very much on the fence about the current price movement. Back when prices were around $7K, I thought there was a >60% chance prices would correct, now we have moved a lot higher I'm 50-50, even 60-40 leaning bullish the more I think about things. We are still within what to me looks like a bull trend (purple) and within a bull flag structure (green), the latter targets much higher levels. There's therefore nothing to suggest a correction as of yet apart from being at long-term resistance (the red line). That said, we are consolidating above this resistance trend-line (that comes from the Weekly chart for reference sake), so again, this is far from bearish.



I realised that moving the Weekly long-term resistance trend-line to include the recent close above it (that would still be valid drawing wise), to suggest that we are struggling to breakthrough resistance, would be drawing a bull-trend with a bearish bias that to me makes little sense apart from airing on the side of caution - which is sensible from that perspective. But otherwise, it's ignoring the fact that we have closed a Weekly candle above it, even if technically we did the same last time at $10K which merely shifted the trend-line sightly higher to where I have drawn it now. It's all very subjective and inconclusive right now imo.



The main argument I see from this resistance is that the more times we test this long-term resistance trend-line (even if sloping downwards), the more the chances of a breakout above it increases, as it is part of the process of weakening this resistance. The main concern "should be" the TD 9 Sell signal, but look at the last time we had this sell signal back at $5K, with a similar bull flag structure. It was a false signal by a long-stretch. This price action does therefore remind me more of $5K "uncertaintity" that led to a massive parabolic bull run, compared to the previous time we were at $10K.

The Weekly close tomorrow will be an important candle, as to whether it looks like a doji reversal candle, or a newly Weekly closing high in recent months. At the moment, we are sitting between those two options with little clarity. Everything from today and through tomorrow will likely just be noise, unless we break-out of the bull flag structure. Breaking down from the purple bull-trend (from the Daily perspective) will be of little significance to me short-term.

My mid-term concern is that breaking down from this bull-flag will lead to $7K levels being re-tested, possibly with another capitulation wick, as opposed to healthy consolidation and support from the 200 Day MA around $8K. Given that we broke through the 200 MA without any resistance, I fail to see how it will act as support, especially given the lack of volume from these levels, as well as previous attempts to find support from this important moving average - that many use to define mid-term bull or bear trends.
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June 06, 2020, 11:59:57 AM

So, we go up?
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June 06, 2020, 12:05:34 PM

So, we go up?

Not yet, I am Still buying!
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June 06, 2020, 12:08:21 PM


Zero, in the poll, currently collecting and stacking sats, my vote in a normal BTC situation would be option 1.
#StrongHats
Agreed.
On a more stupid and ironic note I would use the following hashtag based on yours
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So, we go up?
nope
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Why not?
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June 06, 2020, 12:34:09 PM

So, we go up?

I see no reason for a correction now. After another leg up to 12k or 16k maybe. But now its up up up... go BTC go  Cool
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