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[psycodad]

I do not really get this discussion about censorship. I don't see any censorship here, I see (rather large) companies exercising their contractual freedom in highly centralized environment. I'll admit that these times there is a narrowly defined narrative what is the right thing to say and think and often companies trying to avoid customer unhappiness in form of a shitstorm tend to follow that narrative to please their customer/user base.

But since you are basically unheard/invisible if you're not on Twitter (anymore) it is a form of censorship nonetheless nowadays. It is somehow ironic how many BTC-enthusiasts actually use Twitter and not something like mastodon. Decentralization does not only fix the monetary system, it would also fix social networks and energy production etc.. Email for example is decentralized, gmail might kick you, but then you can use hotmail (or go straight to protonmail if you're one of the brighter candles on the cake) or even register your own domain and run it from your living room on a rpi.

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me. If Jack Dorsey thinks the orange nutjob is not worth the trouble anymore, that's his decision. People unhappy with that or missing the wisdom of Donnie should vote with their feet/d and use another company for their needs.
What keeps them from running their own infrastructure? Mind you, that was actually the thought behind the internet, being decentralized and everybody being able to run a service on their own computers.

One addition to the above, I might have left the impression that you and I are customers of Twitter or Parler or Facebook, that is not what I meant. We are in fact a supplier, we deliver the product that Facebook sells to advertisers, governments and aliens (basically everbody who pays for it). In turn we are paid for our generous delivery (you'd be astonished what the data about you - your data is worth to them) with "free" services that we can use. This bargain seems obviously too good for most of us to take care and take things into our own hands (i.e. using open standards like Jabber) and run our own services or use easily exchangeable small service providers that offer that to us for a small fee.

Anything that is removed, is by definition, censorship, whatever the motivation for removing it. Even if there are 100 twitters, if the industry as a whole deletes posts of a certain type, it has the same effect as mass censorship.

To ensure we remain a free society, censorship must be fought whatever the form. Even if that form is the profit seeking of media companies.

There is just too much temptation for political corruption and manipulation of opinions by deciding what gets removed and what remains. Only laws should determine that because laws are voted on by our representatives and can't as easily be manipulated as an employee making a biased decision about a post.

I beg to differ. I generally agree about censorship being bad and to fight it wherever possible.
Censorship in my definition is if LE forces your registrar to withdraw your DNS server delegation so that you basically disappear from the intertubes.

Though I believe that everything already is prone to fail when we made companies provide platforms for formation of opinion in the general public (that is insane in the first place).
Twitter is for fun at most, not more. If your business or your free speech depends on having access to Twitter (or whatever service) there is so much that has gone wrong before that. Companies can and should not be expected to be just good for the sake of it, where necessary they should be regulated but otherwise they are just expected to be greedy and profit driven, which is fine as this makes money to live for everybody.

What I am trying to say is that if democracy needs to rely on one or more huge companies to play nice and fair - we're essentially FUBAR'd. Contractual freedom needs no fixing, the infrastructure we rely on for formation of opinion does need a lot of fixing though.

I am aware that the large players like Facebook, Twitter etc. would like to see themselves positioned as communication providers instead of content providers, so that they can say "look, we're like ATT, we don't know what people are talking about over our channels and it's essentially their own business". I disagree with that, they have a website where they publish content to earn money, much like a newspaper or blog etc. and they should be held legally responsible for what is posted there.

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me.

What keeps them from running their own infrastructure?

Mind you, not only Amazon kicked them off their infrastructure, but at the same time Apple and Google removed their mobile app.
Feels very centralized and coordinated.

That's what I am saying (even I didn't mention mobile market). Decentralization would for example mean that everybody can write software ('an app') for your mobile and publish it on their own website to install with a click. Being so heavily dependent from the goodwill of one single company is something I could never accept and therefor I never had and will never have any sort of smartphone.

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[eddie13]

I can't do it.

I can't post explicit yaoi.

I'm trying to view everything through the lens of a calm, right-of-center constitutionalist, on a rational level. Not through either clinical democratic or republican lenses, tainted by current events.

We're hurdling towards communism and people are cheering it on.

I'm just really sad waking and catching up on the last couple pages.

Very sad to see.. Especially among “hardcore” bitcoiners..

We should be against every last tiny thing any government does, other than get smaller..


Wonder if y’all would be all for traditional monetary services like visa and PayPal shutting down services to sites such as theDonald.win and 4chan, leaving them to bitcoin only, as was done to Wikileaks..

You guys still even support Wikileaks?

Y’all think 4chan, 8kun, TD, etc should be blacklisted by ISPs?

[True Myth]

Meanwhile, new bear attack. Looking forward reading what the experts think of all this.

I may be wrong but, I think this looks like normal market movement.  

I had done some TA last night and assumed an overly strong rebound after the dip followed by another short dip before leveling off.  I'm assuming we will see some short up and down in the 33k to 36k range before leveling off and moving upward again.

I've been wrong before though.

*Edit - all of my buy orders have executed except one at $32.5 that was set to make me feel better if we dropped below my TA.

Filled at $32.5k...

[Torque]

Notice the massive fake head-and-shoulder pattern that these whales are trying to paint... 

Nailed it.

[Torque]

I can't do it.

I can't post explicit yaoi.

I'm trying to view everything through the lens of a calm, right-of-center constitutionalist, on a rational level. Not through either clinical democratic or republican lenses, tainted by current events.

We're hurdling towards communism and people are cheering it on.

I'm just really sad waking and catching up on the last couple pages.

Not to mention the hypocrisy and double standard that has soared into the stratosphere.

[BobLawblaw]

Not to mention the hypocrisy and double standard that has soared into the stratosphere.

The hypocrisy, on both sides, is so absolutely distasteful in the most personally-selfish way, that it sickens me.

EDIT: Speaking of personally-selfish, back to degenerate dip-buying. Got some more powder loaded on Gemini, but not looking to target anything at these current ~$34.2k levels. If we dip back to $33k it's game-on, but mostly in a wait-and-see position right now.
EDIT2: OK, saw us dipping back down to $33.7k. Placed dip orders for $250 @ $33.5k and another $250 @ $33k. Gotta run out and deal with more vet stuff with one of our kitties.

[xhomerx10]

You don't get to storm the capital and try to kill people in this country.

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

If anything, it was the police that drew first blood, killing that woman by shooting her in the neck.

This is the last I am saying about this incident, and recognize I am now posting about politics, which means I need to bust out the ole rusty pipe and go to work on myself as penance.

I'm trying to make a point here about there being unhinged people on both sides of this.

There are too many unknowns right now about the recent capital incident to take any rigid stance. We're presently victims of asymmetric information warfare, and now bringing that warfare here to our beloved Corn shitposting thread.

The Yaoi will become increasingly worse from here on out.

I have spoken.

EDIT: Oh... that's the good stuff right there... Oh yeah... I've missed Rusty.
EDIT2: Oh... Jesus Christ...

 Make sure to get your Tetanus booster first.  We don't want to lose you.

[soullyG]

Mere days after the FCA told people to beware crypto because people could lose all their money, UK regulators are now looking for feedback on stablecoins regulations, similar to the US:

The U.K. is planning a “a staged and proportionate approach” to new crypto asset developments, taking a focus in the paper on stablecoins – cryptocurrencies that generally aim to have a stable value by being backed by assets such as the U.S. dollar.

“[T]he landscape is changing rapidly. So-called stablecoins could pave the way for faster, cheaper payments, making it easier for people to pay for things or store their money. There is also increasing evidence that [distributed ledger technology] could have significant benefits for capital markets, potentially fundamentally changing the way they operate,” said John Glen M.P., the Treasury’s economic secretary, said in the paper’s introduction.

https://www.coindesk.com/uk-treasury-calls-for-feedback-on-approach-to-cryptocurrency-and-stablecoin-regulation

[Wekkel]

Tether does up to 12% of the daily Ethereum transactions. Funny that a decentralised computer is used to transfer a stable coin pegged to fiat. But it serves a purpose I guess 

[Elwar]

I can't do it.

I can't post explicit yaoi.

I'm trying to view everything through the lens of a calm, right-of-center constitutionalist, on a rational level. Not through either clinical democratic or republican lenses, tainted by current events.

We're hurdling towards communism and people are cheering it on.

I'm just really sad waking and catching up on the last couple pages.

They are going after Ron Paul on Facebook.

The only reason I got on Facebook and twitter was because in 2007 supporters wanted to get Ron Paul's social media numbers up so we were all on board with joining these platforms and following Ron Paul.

If they see it against their community standards to have Ron Paul's words of liberty on their platforms then they do not meet my standards in a platform on which to spend my time.

I am dropping Facebook and twitter. I'll play around with platforms like Flote and others until there is a truly decentralized version like LBRY that comes along.

I am fully planning my next 4 years based on the reality that communism is coming to America. Planning my means of being powerful in a communist system using history as a guide. The most selfish individualistic people in the world are those at the top of such power structures and I plan on taking my slice of individual liberty that only a tyrannical regime can provide.

[Tash]

Facebook and Twitter are perfect examples of socialism:

• You get it for free,
• You have no say in how it works
• The guy who runs it is rich
• They control your access to information
• You have no privacy
• If you say anything they don't like, they shut you up

3 star Lt. General McInerney
https://rumble.com/vconi2-general-mcinerney-ww3-has-started.html?fbclid=IwAR1nwWDuPO-T3RVS2ddp2LGPMRhWSNamDUt7OH8iCpuyee0YE5pCJoN-IN8

[ivomm]

1400BTC wall at Coinbase and 600BTC wall at Bitstamp noticed. Both are placed from 36600 to 36900 probably by one person. What is this - a n00b whale who thinks the bull run has ended?!? Or a n00b shorter who thinks this will stop the recovery and possible new ATH in a few days? In both cases, still a n00b.  

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Hopefully yesterday's $30k was the bottom of this correction. We seem to be consolidating in the mid $3xxxx range... currently $35205USD/$44950CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Still waiting for my check to clear so I can take advantage of this buying opportunity.

Stay Bitcoin stay.  
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Fuck politics.  

[AlcoHoDL]

I'm trying to design a mechanical part that uses imperial units for holes and threads. Man, how can US/British engineers deal with this chaos? 3/16"-32, drill bit 21 (had to look up what actual diameter 21 translates to). This is pure BDSM pr0n material. I could torture a poor soul by forcing him to deal with this shit.

Fuck politics.  

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[Indymoney]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Hopefully yesterday's $30k was the bottom of this correction. We seem to be consolidating in the mid $3xxxx range... currently $35205USD/$44950CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Still waiting for my check to clear so I can take advantage of this buying opportunity.

Stay Bitcoin stay.  
___

Fuck politics.  

We can fuck this politics but cannot live without this in our society because its also need to fuck us for this all beauty and civilization of humans.

[aesma]

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But needing a crew is annoying so I'll probably keep things small, something like this :

My choice too, maybe a slightly longer one to reduce fuel cost and increase range. and way more solar. I'm involved in custom build aluminum catamarans and have seen several clients move to a smaller ship so they can kick most or all crew off the ship when the owner arrives. Also quite a few that sold their house to cross the globe permanently.

Yeah the model is new but too conservative for my taste, I would throw away the diesels, just keep a small backup generator for emergencies, put more solar, windmills, hydrogenerator, and a big bank of batteries, with electric engines for maneuvering.

Do you have pictures of the custom cats ?

[eXPHorizon]

[ElBinBit]

Facebook and Twitter are perfect examples of socialism:

• You get it for free,
• You have no say in how it works
• The guy who runs it is rich
• They control your access to information
• You have no privacy
• If you say anything they don't like, they shut you up

3 star Lt. General McInerney
https://rumble.com/vconi2-general-mcinerney-ww3-has-started.html?fbclid=IwAR1nwWDuPO-T3RVS2ddp2LGPMRhWSNamDUt7OH8iCpuyee0YE5pCJoN-IN8

CBDC - They will be the same!

these CBDCs would create an all-powerful, closed-loop spying apparatus that controls your ability to spend money. They'll have so much granular control that they will be able to airdrop digital dollars into your account, give those dollars an expiration date, and mandate that they can only be spent at certain places for specific goods. Is this the future you want for yourself and your children?

https://tftc.io/martys-bent/issue-857/

[JayJuanGee]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

In many jurisdictions you can be convicted for various levels of murder or manslaughter merely be participating in felony conduct that ends up resulting in the death of another person(s), of course, the degree of culpability may vary depending on your own personal involvement and conduct in relation to the incidents - and for sure, the ones who were most closely situated  with the actual deaths would be more likely to be charged with contributing or causing such conduct... and similar kinds of charges related to the specific deaths could be brought against Trump, Giuliani and/or Don Jr. for inciting various kinds of behaviors that any reasonable person would have known could have caused such outcomes.. so charged persons do not necessarily have to be engaged in the actual violent behavior to be charged with some variation of the consequences and such charges and/or remedies (punishments) end up getting ramped up to higher levels based on deaths that ended up occurring that were likely reasonably foreseeable  even based on things that those higher level politicians were saying to hype up those who ended up participating in the attacks on democratic process and aims (rhetoric) against specific people (perceived political opponents). 

[Paashaas]

- China locks down Langfang city with 4.9 million residents.

- Malaysia declares state of emergency.

- German lockdown could last another ten weeks.

- More mass vaccination centres opens.

- Emergency mortuaries have been set up in England as hospital mortuaries reaching full capacity from Covid deaths.

Stay save.