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[Gachapin]

big green dildos please... or even red... just to get away from this endless debate



by now, there is enough vax-info out there.  please, anyone make his own personal choice.  

remember?... Bitcoin: freedom & choices  ....apart from some beloved number-go-up


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[OutOfMemory]

This is disgusting. Dirty dirty dirty move... using the death of fellow WOer's close relative to shill your anti-vaxxer shit.  

STRF suffers from a sick and powerful ego, maybe even from a serious mental condition.
 
@AlcoHODL: Really sorry for your loss.

@WO's:
Don't let us forget who the enemy is. It's not the "vaxxers", nor the "anti vaxxers", nor the conspiracists or emotionally numb s-holes.
It's the novel, mutating bitch of virus. It is a challenge that we have to take, it won't go by without the price we have to pay, as humans, as society, as humanity, as a group of BTC believers trying to have fun and debate on the biggest forum thread of bitcointalk.org.
I don't care how but anybody is free to do as he likes, as long as he takes care about himself and others.
Vaccines, masks, pills, distancing... whatever. Just don't try to be a selfish prick.
AlcoHODL's post and response was not about the Covid directly, it was about his tragic loss.
That's why he supposedly posted it here, like many of us did, even if it wasn't related to Covid.

A relative of my uncle died recently with Covid-19, and he was 100% fully vaccinated.

I never posted it here for sympathy and to go on an epic rant about vaccines, but should I have? I thought this was the Bitcoin WO thread.

If AlcoHODL had left out the condescending rant against people who chose not to take the vaccine, he never would have triggered me. Plus he posted it here, instead of Bob's off-topic thread he was already aware of, because he's posted there before also. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. And all you guys are applauding him for it. smh

I will link to this post and answer in the other thread.

EDIT: Because this is the Bitcoin WO thread, but it evolved to something much bigger.
Some may agree with Bob's take on keeping this thread cleaner, some don't. In fact it is keeping WO cleaner, but not perfectly clean.
I'd just take back some offensiveness and continue as advised. I can understand both of you. Every useless death is one too much, regardless of the circumstances.

[goldkingcoiner]

Another truly tragic COVID-19 casualty. In my family.

45 years old. 6.2 ft tall. Perfectly healthy. Never had any illnesses throughout his life. Was serving in the military (Lieutenant, O-3). As you probably know, military officers regularly undertake medical tests, and his was perfectly clean. Stationed at a weapons research facility, doing research on encrypted network protocols.

Not vaccinated (out of "principle", whatever the FUCK that means). Contracted COVID-19. Fell ill. Within a week he was in ICU. A week later he was dead. DEAD. Got that? DEAD!

A brilliant man, a great military officer and scientist, LOST due to some medieval, dark-ages, Ted Kaczynski-type ideas, circulated for-profit on the internet, claiming that vaccines, medicines, science, technology, are somehow bad for us and we should abstain from them. He leaves behind his wife and two little girls.

Sorry to post this here, but it needs to be heard. If the mods want, they can delete it or move it to Bob's thread. The pain is just too much for me right now. I just had to post this, in the hope that some "anti-vaxxers" out there read it and WAKE THE FUCK UP. I'm not talking about what I've heard, read, or dreamt, this is real life inside my own social circle.

And anyone offended by this post can go fuck themselves, thank you.

I am very sorry for your loss. May your family member rest in peace.

Please ignore all the insensitive assholes in this thread that are trying to turn your grief into their own perverse anti-vax propaganda material.

Anyone wanting a better chance at survival should get vaccinated, it helps your chances of surviving this thing, no doubt about that. But it seems that this terrible virus will never go away, even in countries with 100% (or close to) vaccination rates. we keep seeing more and more infections. The current vaccinations are not going to rid of us this damn virus as they only prevent severe disease. What we need is a next generation vaccine which prevents infection completely aka induce sterilising immunity. From my point of view, sooner or later everyone will catch corona and even if they are vaccinated and don't suffer the same way the unvaccinated do, the virus will still replicate and mutate into more and more dangerous strains. All we are currently doing is buying time and holding back the tide.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Hueristic]

https://twitter.com/lauranelson1954/status/1471876954034950154?s=21

 Hmmm... account was suspended.  What was the original tweet about?

It was a cat meme showing a cat not effected by the "hole rug" that the dogs would not step on.
Must have a been a dog loving Cat Hater that suspended the account
#Anti-Cat Conspiracy



@AlcoHoDL my condolences.

[JayJuanGee]

Sorry to post this here, but it needs to be heard. If the mods want, they can delete it or move it to Bob's thread.

Last I heard, many normal forum rules such as being on topic do not apply in these here parts..... except up to the discretion of the thread owner, which is infofront in the past 4.5 years.. or is it longer?

 In other words, there is no rule in these here parts about being "off-topic"... unless you are shilling some product or shitcoin or engaging in some other forum violation.. that maybe need not be listed in my post.. who needs to give examples? 

Of course, there are some members who do want to weave shitcoin discussions into their WO posts, and if the shitcoin discussions are ambiguous in terms of their somehow having some connection to bitcoin, then maybe no one is going to complain about such posts... there are some other members who engage in some other conduct that is not really liked by regular members here.. so there could be some differences of opinion regarding if some posts cross over the line of acceptable...... and I suppose since there is ONLY one thread owner, then it would be up to him to decide if he believes some post goes over the line.. or if one of us were to lobby to attempt to get him to delete some kinds of posts, which surely infofront has so far historically errored on the side of not deleting posts.. which in the end does not seem to be a bad thing.. at least so far..

It is not magic. It is science.

magic, science...if you can't shot it, it's not real. stay behind the purple fence dude!

I tend to agree with this assertion in terms of questioning some of the strict assertions regarding what happens to be science, and of course anecdotal evidence is not very strong science in and of itself.

Part of my point here, is that we cannot necessarily know in the case of AlcoHoDL's family member if the vaccine would have clearly and unambiguously reversed the outcome.

For sure in early 2020, when the covid matters were first coming out, there may well have been facts on the ground to justify extreme actions; however, part of the problems that I have been having with the passage of time has been both the shifting goal posts and the various kinds of lying that has been happening all along... so of course in the beginning, I was more than willing to give a lot of benefits of the doubt, but even if we give benefits of the doubt, we should be able to appreciate that a lot of the evidence does not add up. and there seem to be a lot of ways that this supposed epidemic is being used to take a lot of extreme actions in terms of various economic matter (and surely that relates to bitcoin), a lot of interference of social interaction matters that relates to the abilities of people to effectively seek redress of grievances or affect policies, and surely the matter of assertions of what is science and what is not science has been abused including whether there can be ways to question when the "authorities" say that certain levels of precautions are warranted.... and yeah in the beginning we did not know.. and later we are finding a lot of overkill and even overkill that continues.

Fuck the nature of a virus is that it is going to mutate.. and then there just seems to be way too much drama attached to the needs to take various additional precautions.. and yeah, I am not even claiming to know the answers.. but I really do not like being lied to.. and I do not like when proper balancing is not made in a variety of regards to policies and shutting down businesses.. fuck the various conspiracy theorists, and I surely would not prescribe to jumping to conclusions too quickly about conspiracies.. but there has developed so many areas in which we have been lied to.. that it is just ongoingly irritating for me.. including the supposed effectiveness of various vaccines.. and yeah I am not going to go on at this particular point.... except just to reiterate that the more passage of time shows more and more contradictions and areas in which we are being lied to and manipulated and there have been a lot of not good intentions that have been attached to these matters.

[Tash]

@AlcoHoDL

Lucky i am far away from you, people around you seem to get sick and die at a rate well above average from this covid thing.
That begs the question why would that be?

Can it be the exact opposite lifestyle to the Amish or the liking what they dont like, government , public shools, health care system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1DgWYdukZU

[birr]

Can one of the expert trolls here please help me think of something condescending and abusive to type?

[Biodom]

@AlcoHoDL post was legit-basically grievance for a family member, my condolencies.

However, i do think that COVID discussion should be mostly on Bob's thread.
A little here is OK, but not if it dominates.
Personally, i almost never post on this topic (maybe to clarify something biological) and I LIKE the idea of neutrality as I also don't like to discuss the political leanings per se.
It is also true that nothing, apart from bitcoin, unites the members, so we should be focused on bitcoin and connecting topics, imho.
Politics would never be a consensus here and no expectation of polite discourse on that.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[AlcoHoDL]

@AlcoHoDL

Lucky i am far away from you, people around you seem to get sick and die at a rate well above average from this covid thing.
That begs the question why would that be?

Can it be the exact opposite lifestyle to the Amish or the liking what they dont like, government, public shools, health care system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1DgWYdukZU

Have posted my reply in Bob's COVID-19 thread. <-- click to jump to it.

[xhomerx10]

There's another full moon tomorrow (or the 19th in the morning depending on where you live) and while this isn't trading advice, it looks as though there might just be something to all this talk of bitcoin "mooning" after all.  A little hopium chart for your perusal:

Just for comparison, here's the exact same chart, but with the positions of the full-moon / new-moon icons flipped on the vertical axis. Note that the horizontal locations of the icons are still correct (i.e., the icons still represent the correct definitions for full moon / new moon).

A better chart would be one that shows the percentage profit/loss of each period.

 I was able to line up the months but the y-axis scale is slightly different for price is slightly different.  For the lower two lines, the grey one represents bitcoin price and the red represents relative unrealized profit/loss (thank you lookintobitcoin.com).  I haven't tried to read anything much into it yet; getting them to line up took too much concentration but that dip from optimism to denial then fear and finally to capitulation in March 2020 seems to align with the full moon.  The full moon was March 9th and the minimum price was March 12th, 2020.

[d_eddie]

I knew! The phase of the moon just had to have something to do with price...

[BobLawblaw]

... shill your anti-vaxxer shit. 

Oh Jesus... Here we go again...

[Richy_T]

I did not sell any btc to increase spending, but had to make some moves in a couple of unnamed alts that had obscene gains in 2021.
House remodeling is expensive.
My bitcoin stash keeps accumulating (slowly) due to mining rewards.

For those of you who like viewing some expensive RE (I have to say that the buildings themselves are amazing from the engineering perspective), check out this, although this is probably out of reach for almost everyone here...but in 10 years...who knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wehsz38P74g

In New York?

OK as your second or third home, I guess.

[philipma1957]

Look bottom line we are all human and we are all dying.

Let's leave that out of here.

Dip still looking very good.

I am stacking and growing my stash a should all of you.

My condolences to everyone that has lost loved ones as I am pretty sure almost all of us have lost a person they care for.

Went to a sports bar today with six other married guys and wore my rainbow glasses to read my cell phone. told them all Rainbows are for straight people too.

Pretty drink on Tito's watching my Jets actually close to  winning a game 24-24 at the moment.

Lets leave off the anti vax  and pro vax crap  and think about a  lost one instead.  To all that lost friend or family in all of their life here's to the memory of them.


and Go Jets

along with go BTC!

Buy some dip today people.

[xhomerx10]

I AM getting really fucking offended at the Mod of this WO thread that you can post this fucking over the top rant

For what it's worth: infofront hasn't been online in 4 days.

After all Covid discussion here was forced, yes FORCED off this WO thread

I missed the part where that happened, but if that was the case, I assume infofront will use his delete button again when he's back.

This was supposed to be neutral ground to talk about Bitcoin and other world happenings.

I do like that, without the drama caused by other differences of opinion. Let's face it: "we" here have only one thing in common. Except for proudhon of course, we have nothing in common.

 

[philipma1957]

Oh right after I post NY Jets are now trailing oh well

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[sirazimuth]

<scans back>

wow

um...


so..... is not everyone getting excited for Santa and presents and eggnog and that sort of thing... etc...?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55895025#msg55895025


sorry for your loss, AlcoHoDL