Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Richy_T]

I was suggested the video by youtube earlier today. It says that half the falts are empty, even the most expensive ones. Someone pays 250 millions for a flat and never uses it, even once. What a waste !

It was also suggested that maybe it wasn't the best investment, because at first, with one such tower, it was "unique", but now, like you say there are several hundreds of them.

There's a glut of cheap money on the market. Everyone's looking at Bitcoin as tulip mania but nobody's looking at the elephant in the skyscraper.

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[Richy_T]

... I can give you some hard data that might help inform your decisions, or any others that may be reading this that have faith in my integrity to supply sourced data

That's about where I'm at, give or take. But I've seen a lot of other claims, some obvious bullshit, some less so in either direction so I'm limiting my confidence in my stance. Certainly, government claims have backed off from what was originally being said (though the propaganda soundbites are still hanging about in the zeitgeist because it's easier to get people to believe a lie/falsehood than to disbelieve it once they've internalized it).

[ChartBuddy]

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[BobLawblaw]

Random shitpost. Ignore pls.

[degxtra1]

@AlcoHoDL post was legit-basically grievance for a family member, my condolencies.

However, i do think that COVID discussion should be mostly on Bob's thread.
A little here is OK, but not if it dominates.
Personally, i almost never post on this topic (maybe to clarify something biological) and I LIKE the idea of neutrality as I also don't like to discuss the political leanings per se.
It is also true that nothing, apart from bitcoin, unites the members, so we should be focused on bitcoin and connecting topics, imho.
Politics would never be a consensus here and no expectation of polite discourse on that.

I completely agree with all your post - we should look for things that will unite all WO  members despite their views on this clearly political not medical matter called Covid19.
So there are 2 pennies from me:

[ChartBuddy]

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[JimboToronto]

@AlcoHoDL post was legit-basically grievance for a family member, my condolencies.

However, i do think that COVID discussion should be mostly on Bob's thread.
A little here is OK, but not if it dominates.
Personally, i almost never post on this topic (maybe to clarify something biological) and I LIKE the idea of neutrality as I also don't like to discuss the political leanings per se.
It is also true that nothing, apart from bitcoin, unites the members, so we should be focused on bitcoin and connecting topics, imho.
Politics would never be a consensus here and no expectation of polite discourse on that.

I completely agree with all your post - we should look for things that will unite all WO  members despite their views on this clearly political medical not medical political matter called Covid19.

ftfy
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I agree it's best to minimize this crap here. Bob's thread is in off-topic for a reason.

Delete posts? They can't delete merits.

[Hueristic]

https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2021/12/10/comparing-l5-and-pp/

I’m guessing that Purism included these extra accessories in the box, partly to make people feel like they were getting their money’s worth, since the phone is so expensive at $1199 for the Librem 5 and $1999 for the Librem 5 USA. The L5 comes in a big box, which is designed to impress, and I can’t help wondering if it is also partly designed to convey quality.

The PP costs significantly less at a price of $149.99 for the PinePhone Beta with 2GB RAM and 16GB Flash storage and $199.99 for the PinePhone Beta with Convergence Package with 3GB RAM, 32GB Flash storage and a USB-C hub. PINE64 makes little effort to impress the consumer with the PP’s small white box, which is minimalist in design, and it doesn’t contain an instruction manual aside from a single card with links to more information on the web site. Unlike Purism, PINE64 assumes that its customers are Linux enthusiasts who don’t need any hand-holding.

[aesma]

maybe..the vibe from a promoter/re agent was that this is like owning a Picasso-something very unique and there are only about 400-500 apt total in skyscrapers like this (in NY).

Ah, so more like somewhere you can crash when you're in the vicinity.

Yeah, but a full floor (or even 2 or 4 floors) condo isn't exactly a crash pad ! Unless you crash with an entourage (or a harem).

I'm actually considering buying a flat near my workplace, and a house further out, because the budget for a house that I like is too much, just to be closer.

Basically I can get an OK house, barely OK even (quite ugly), good size and with a decently sized plot of land, not too close to neighbours (but not far either), and about 45min-1 hour drive from my work (if traffic isn't too bad), for 10BTC (I wouldn't spend BTC). Or I can get a better house, with a bigger plot of land, for about 6 BTC, and it's 1h30 away.

1h30 drive each way, every day, is too much, however I just changed teams at work and will now have 2 days of telework. So I'm considering the better house. Plan A would be to just do the drive. If it's too much, I'm too tired or something, I can take a hotel room or crash at my parents' who live nearby. Or I can spend the 4 BTC I saved and buy a 1-2 bedrooms flat near my work and sleep there 2-3 nights a week. The flat would also be a decent investment. However it means spending more in fees, taxes etc.

[ChartBuddy]

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[Richy_T]

https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2021/12/10/comparing-l5-and-pp/

I’m guessing that Purism included these extra accessories in the box, partly to make people feel like they were getting their money’s worth, since the phone is so expensive at $1199 for the Librem 5 and $1999 for the Librem 5 USA. The L5 comes in a big box, which is designed to impress, and I can’t help wondering if it is also partly designed to convey quality.

Looks like standard accessories to me, combined value ~3-5 dollars.

I've settled on a Pinephone as my next phone. My current G7 is due to stop working in February and I broke the screen by stepping on it last week in a rare act of carelessness. I was waiting for the L5 but I think they've got themselves in a position where they're a dead man walking. Good luck to them though, I'd like to see them succeed.

Everything I've seen says that the pinephone isn't quite there yet. Probably the pro will be better but it will be twice the price. I'm hoping the pinephone will be "close enough" as I don't mind having to work a little and there might be some opportunities to do something interesting while things are still fairly early.

[Richy_T]

Yeah, but a full floor (or even 2 or 4 floors) condo isn't exactly a crash pad ! Unless you crash with an entourage (or a harem).

You don't?

I'm actually considering buying a flat near my workplace, and a house further out, because the budget for a house that I like is too much, just to be closer.

I worked for a place that would put me up in a hotel two nights a week (four day workweek) as I had a two hour commute. Being away from home two nights a week was rough and the commute still not fun but the three day weekend definitely made up for it. Great job too and very flexible on hours though it didn't pay enough. Looking back, I probably should have seen if I could have found a way to get my income up but I was ready to end that commute by the end of it anyway.

You might consider renting a room or something. A lot of people looking for a little extra income right now.

[Hueristic]

https://imgur.com/gallery/nQhHF5e

[Hueristic]

https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2021/12/10/comparing-l5-and-pp/

I’m guessing that Purism included these extra accessories in the box, partly to make people feel like they were getting their money’s worth, since the phone is so expensive at $1199 for the Librem 5 and $1999 for the Librem 5 USA. The L5 comes in a big box, which is designed to impress, and I can’t help wondering if it is also partly designed to convey quality.

Looks like standard accessories to me, combined value ~3-5 dollars.

I've settled on a Pinephone as my next phone. My current G7 is due to stop working in February and I broke the screen by stepping on it last week in a rare act of carelessness. I was waiting for the L5 but I think they've got themselves in a position where they're a dead man walking. Good luck to them though, I'd like to see them succeed.

Everything I've seen says that the pinephone isn't quite there yet. Probably the pro will be better but it will be twice the price. I'm hoping the pinephone will be "close enough" as I don't mind having to work a little and there might be some opportunities to do something interesting while things are still fairly early.

Open Sauce hardware and OS is what really matters here.

[Richy_T]

Open Sauce hardware and OS is what really matters here.

Yes. And the Librem is more pure in this respect but they are working with dated hardware and have just pushed release another year out. That's not a great place to be in the tech world. I'm ready to be giving Google the boot so if the experience isn't perfect, I'm happy to live with that.

[Hueristic]

Open Sauce hardware and OS is what really matters here.

Yes. And the Librem is more pure in this respect but they are working with dated hardware and have just pushed release another year out. That's not a great place to be in the tech world. I'm ready to be giving Google the boot so if the experience isn't perfect, I'm happy to live with that.

Yeah but they also have made their platform upgradeable.

Did you read the article?  the guy really did a great job of putting all the updated info in there with standard benchmarking as well.

[ChartBuddy]

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[somac.]

It seems many people are fairly bearish right now. I wonder if every time the price increases the reason it gets pushed down again is the bears start leverage shorting aggressively on the price spike. Perhaps we are going to get a short squeeze soon enough. Coins are still being taken off exchange and on-chain is generally bullish.

[aesma]

Yeah, but a full floor (or even 2 or 4 floors) condo isn't exactly a crash pad ! Unless you crash with an entourage (or a harem).

You don't?

Not yet. Maybe when 1 BTC = 1 million dollars :d

[ChartBuddy]

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