Why would we need to flesh that out here? It seems very unimportant in terms of deciding which shitcoin is less shitty.. and take that irrelevant talk somewhere else because any kind of discussion and attention to various shitcoins just ends up in a devolving increased discussion of irrelevant and distracting bullshit - and ain't nobody got time for that.
May have sounded like I was initiating a Shitcoin comparison, but that was not the point I attempted to make. I often have a stupid tendency to unconsciously deviate from subjects, and hopefully this is not a symptom of mental issues.
I will take the terms I mentioned in my last post and remove "Shitcoin" and "Altcoin" from the list. We are left with Ponzi, Decentralized, Anonymity, CBDCs. All of these are words that have been used before to deceive investors interested in Bitcoin. Some are using them outside of their definition specifically to create multiple definitions of a term. Mainstream media with anti Bitcoin agendas do exactly this. Bitcoin been called a Ponzi scheme and an Anonymous currency before. CBDC's have been talked about as if they are the next big thing after Bitcoin.
Throughout my experience here, I noticed a specific lack of education regarding all of these terms I have mentioned above. This, I believe, affects Bitcoin more than anything else.
Fair enough that you want to abstract those ideas away from their association from shitcoins and that you want to discuss those concepts as they may well relate to bitcoin.
I doubt that any of us are claiming to be experts on the various concepts, and many of us may well be guilty as charged in terms of mixing our various concepts or not really knowing the meanings of the words that we use.
Furthermore, we are at differing levels of education, understanding and even our newbie-ness in terms of bitcoin or even our newbie-ness in terms of trying to grapple with some of the terms that you may well be suggesting that there is some kind of need for us to know the difference between the concepts.
By the way, sometimes I believe that I know a term, and then I start out to write out a response, and then I will realize that either I do not know it, or I am learning about the topic as I write it out... or at least getting a better understanding of the concept because of my attempt to engage with it. You know that saying, one of the best ways to learn about a topic is to teach it.. not even claiming that all teachers know their topics very well, but I bet that their attempts to teach it cause them to be more knowledgeable about their topics than they would have been absent attempting to teach it.
For a privacy advocate, being falsely told Bitcoin is anonymous may lead to grave consequences of their actions.
Yes.. there are all kinds of levels to this.
For someone who thinks they are late, they will leave Bitcoin to the side and watch its price runs while waiting for 'the next big thing'.
Yes.. we see this all the time... some people are fooled into such a posture, and others figure out that waiting might not be the right play... actually in bitcoin, waiting tends to not be the better of the plays, as you seem to be suggesting.
Sure, this can be solved by individual research. But we both know most people take everything for granted.
People come into bitcoin with varying levels of experience and knowledge, so surely some people are starting out ahead. But some people might come in dumb as a rock, but if they are only 14 years old, they may well have quite a bit of time to learn... Some people learn critical thinking skills early in life, and some take longer and some never really learn.
Actually, I know that there are quite a few bitcoiners who assert that college is not needed, and sure there may be some correctness in that, yet I credit college for my learning how to learn how to think.. and I had tried various kinds of self-study of topics before going to college, and it seems to me that I spent a lot of time spinning my wheels.. sure some people know how to learn how to learn earlier in life than others and some people need fewer mentors.. but sometimes some of our experiences can cause us to have various blind-spots that we do not necessarily realize that we have until some time later down the road.
Another thing is that many of us probably go through stages in our teenage years when we think that we know everything... Can be dangerous, but at the same time, maybe it is necessary to go through those phases?
It was previously thought boomers were the ones to believe everything on the Internet is true. I unfortunately think it is not just boomers but the majority of everyone using the Internet now.
We are all susceptible to some of this. For example, when I first heard about bitcoin, I had a week or so in which I was thinking that there was some impracticalities in bitcoin because if bitcoin is $600, then how is it going to be used to buy a soda (or coffee) for example? So, even after I realized that bitcoin is divisible, it still did not sink in my skull regarding how powerful that is, but also that so many people have difficulties working with fractions of numbers rather than whole numbers.. so there is power in the satoshi but also power in the concept of a bitcoin having 100 million satoshis, but without working with the ideas for a while, some of those basic kinds of ideas do not sink in, and so many folks can get caught up in wanting to buy some shitcoin because they are more easily able to buy whole units... and even if it sounds pretty dumb when explained, it still takes a certain amount of experience and grappling with the matter in order to really shed some of the dumb preconceptions in respect to unit bias.
There are all kinds of examples of ways in which a lot of really smart people will sometimes have difficulties getting over various basic concepts, including something like unit bias, so there are a lot of ways that their inclinations can be played with.. remember the blocksize wars? It took a long time for people to get over the idea of big blocks being better because it sounds so much better to have big blocks.. so there is a kind of intuition that can lead people into a kind of wrong way of thinking because they are ONLY thinking about the matter from a narrow set of angles.
In consequence, what I am trying to point out is that this is an issue affecting Bitcoin directly. Everyone knows what Fiat is, why banknotes can not be counterfeited, why banks are not anonymous. I am looking forward to the moment the majority will call Bitcoin the way it is and understand why it makes no sense for a public ledger to be called Anonymous, for CBDC's which have nothing to do with Cryptocurrencies to be called a Cryptocurrency and so on and so forth. Fortunately, lately I have been noticing a change. Bitcoin is named so much less often Anonymous, which is good.
You are going to be waiting a long ass time if you are expecting normies to all of a sudden become smart.
You've heard of the Pareto 80/20 distribution, no? Anyhow, it does not need to be a criticism, but the 80/20 Pareto dynamic seems to be a pretty decent default presumption regarding how long it might take for people to start to "get it." Furthermore, there are concepts in which certain kinds of knowledge can be attributed to generations, and it is not like I want to proclaim that people are not capable of learning things, but learning about new systems come through increments.. whether we are referring to getting accustomed to cars instead of horses, radios instead of newpapers, internet instead of tvs or whatever various kinds of adoption of technologies and social interactions and just social interaction systems that are in place.
But forgive and correct me if I am wrong, I think for this education to happen we need to extend this kind of education outside this giant bubble of Bitcoin? Bitcoin is massive, but it seems to me that the influence coming from every hype trend seemingly happening outside of it is so much bigger than Bitcoin's is. This can be further used to build Bitcoin's image in a better way. Just imagine the term Decentralized was actually used properly. Bitcoin would be known as one of the VERY FEW Cryptocurrencies that are known to be Decentralized.
There are all kinds of people engaged in various forms of bitcoin education, and I suppose that our mere participation in this forum might suggest that some of us may well have some role in that too.. even if it ends up playing out in minor ways. Some people seem as if they want to rush some of the process, and perhaps whether you view the progress in a positive light or negative light is upon you.
Whether you consider that we ONLY have less than 1% word adoption or you buy into the claims that 10% or more adoption exists, in any event we are way new in this world of bitcoin, and by the way, even though there are a lot of smart people who are proclaiming that knowledge of bitcoin is high and adoption levels are getting high and everyone knowns about bitcoin or has heard of it, I believe that is a bunch of bullshit. We have people who have been "in bitcoin" for quite a long time who have very few clues about what bitcoin is, and we even have people who are denoted as being "in bitcoin" but they might only have 1% or less of their assets in bitcoin (which I frequently proclaim as a whimpy allocation)... and for a lot of no coiners, 1% would be a pretty damned good start when they continue to fail/refuse to invest in bitcoin because they believe that they know what it is and the proclaim with a pretty high level of conviction that they know where it is going.. which is not up..., hahahahahaha.. a lot of these people (no coiners - or even precoiners) are going to be coming around to bitcoin in the coming 5 to 10 to 20 years, and sure some of them are going to take longer than others because they have to wait until everyone else is already doing it before they start to feel that it is safe to get a bit since it seems to be catching on.
In other words, there is a lot of reluctance to be ahead of the curve.. and a lot of difficulties to appreciate that bitcoin still has a whole hell of a lot of more upside potential and it is not even as close to as mature as so many folks are painting (or presuming) it to be.
Humans are seeking trends. Let's make proper Bitcoin education a trend. Let's make Decentralized trendy. True decentralization I mean. This is what I am on about.
Good. You go do it.
We have all kinds of people who proclaim that there is not enough education out there, and some of them want to recruit others, some of them go out and attempt to make efforts themselves and others just complain about it.. so if you are a go getter type then have fun.. .. by the way, there are some folks who are go getter types, but they are way the fuck too impatient (maybe Roger Ver types) so they go out to educate people and they believe that they are going to change bitcoin and make it into their own vision... good luck with that, if you happen to be a Roger Ver type who seems to not want to accept the is.. and happens to be a go getter, too.
Now I can only hope I have not deviated from the subject again. And if I did, I shall remain silent here for a while.
You seemed to be more on topic with this latter way of framing the matter... and of course, you are free to say whatever you like and to frame matters however, you like, but if regulars here start to believe that you are pumping some kind of project or lecturing us or promoting a shitcoin then many of us are likely to complain about it, even if we misunderstood what you had been attempting to do. Some guys get in BIG fights here over seemingly nothing;.. or even over some miscommunications, and other guys have thicker skins.. so sometimes, even if we might go at each other and even get mad at each other, sometimes we can still get through the differences of opinions and the differing ways of framing matters if we do not take things too personally.. which so far seems that you have not gotten too emotional yet.. but sometimes guys are going to push your buttons, even on purpose.. not even excluding yours truly from that kind of childish behavior.... hahahaha
So either way, I may thank you, JayJuanGee for the discussion I surely enjoyed having with you.
You did not say: "nohomo"
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just kidding.... .. You have been bring some good perspectives to the thread.. so even if we do not always agree, it is nice to see members such as yourself attempt to defend their positions and sometimes adjust their positions when necessary... sometimes it seems necessary to adjust positions or even to change or tweak perspectives as well.....
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