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May 16, 2014, 05:44:08 PM

Bitcoin has a small risk of going to zero, perhaps 3% annualized. That is about the same as fiat cash, or stocks, so we are talking about a net zero risk.
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May 16, 2014, 05:50:48 PM

Bitcoin has a small risk of going to zero, perhaps 3% annualized. That is about the same as fiat cash, or stocks, so we are talking about a net zero risk.
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Wait that means statistically fiat has a 50% chance to go to zero every 23 years.
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May 16, 2014, 05:51:58 PM

Pff, i am sure BTC will go down to 0 till the end of this year.
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May 16, 2014, 05:53:17 PM

Bitcoin has a small risk of going to zero, perhaps 3% annualized. That is about the same as fiat cash, or stocks, so we are talking about a net zero risk.
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Wait that means statistically fiat has a 50% chance to go to zero every 23 years.

Yup. Did it 4 times in the 20th century, or didn't you notice?
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May 16, 2014, 05:53:49 PM


Chinese daily ratio of FUD?  No thanks!
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May 16, 2014, 06:00:45 PM


Explanation
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May 16, 2014, 06:29:46 PM

I do not believe in exponential growth line - just normal markets bull and bear cycles.

You don't have to *believe* anything.  You can *see* the exponential growth, in real-time:  http://blockchain.info/charts/n-unique-addresses?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=30&show_header=true&scale=1&address=
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May 16, 2014, 06:34:59 PM

According to my data, the number of new users learning about Bitcoin is still decreasing.

(This is an index number based on statistics from websites/webpages explaining about bitcoin.)



Today's index (not plotted here but on hourly chart) looks like it's going to be a new yearly low for a Friday.

This is the most interesting thing I've seen on the wall thread in at least a week:  Lots of new bits of data.   Please, please give us more color on what is being charted, otherwise the bits are wasted.
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May 16, 2014, 07:00:46 PM


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May 16, 2014, 07:31:28 PM

According to my data, the number of new users learning about Bitcoin is still decreasing.

(This is an index number based on statistics from websites/webpages explaining about bitcoin.)



Today's index (not plotted here but on hourly chart) looks like it's going to be a new yearly low for a Friday.

This is the most interesting thing I've seen on the wall thread in at least a week:  Lots of new bits of data.   Please, please give us more color on what is being charted, otherwise the bits are wasted.

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Lots more people were looking up information about bitcoin when it was peaking in price. That chart starts in January when the price was still over $800. As the price relaxed there was less interest (other than when significant, fast drops in price occurred)

The chart would be FAR more meaningful if it extended back to about april of last year, when the price was stable at $90-120, so you could see the change in interest from then through the price jump and to now. I am sure its a few times higher now than a year ago
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May 16, 2014, 07:49:39 PM

What happened to the order book at stamp? Only 4k btc until $400
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May 16, 2014, 07:53:42 PM

Another thing that annoys me is that when I write "Inevitable crash" I get 3 responses within a minute stating that I am pulling predictions out of my ass. While in the meantime if for example Chessnut predicts "CCMF" with his EW analysis (which he hasnt the slightest idea about), people are already like "CCMF" etc.


b/c ultimately, chestnut is correct, even if he is NOT correct about the timing... and/or his TAs may be less than ideal, he is correct about the direction
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May 16, 2014, 07:55:33 PM

What happened to the order book at stamp? Only 4k btc until $400

I see ~10k
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Explanation
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May 16, 2014, 08:02:01 PM

What happened to the order book at stamp? Only 4k btc until $400

I see ~10k

This is what mine looks like, maybe it's a bug?

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May 16, 2014, 08:08:43 PM

What happened to the order book at stamp? Only 4k btc until $400

I see ~10k

This is what mine looks like, maybe it's a bug?



Of course that's a bug. No bids at all in that flat area? Cmon
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May 16, 2014, 08:09:16 PM

What happened to the order book at stamp? Only 4k btc until $400

I see ~10k

This is what mine looks like, maybe it's a bug?



Of course that's a bug. No bids at all in that flat area? Cmon

Which is why I asked wtf just happened
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May 16, 2014, 08:21:17 PM

According to my data, the number of new users learning about Bitcoin is still decreasing.

(This is an index number based on statistics from websites/webpages explaining about bitcoin.)



Today's index (not plotted here but on hourly chart) looks like it's going to be a new yearly low for a Friday.


why does your "chart" only go back until January 2014?  That is a bit selective of a rendition of the situation, isn't it?
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May 16, 2014, 08:31:48 PM

Attention: I have just been dubbed with the honorary title of the greatest most bearish type of bear there is: a permabear. This came after projecting a flat short term market and 'only' a 500% per year exponential growth trend.

No it was based on all your other posts. This post was actually bullish. That is what made me take note. Someone, who thus far was predicting the end of the world as we know it, switching to an (exponential) uptrend. I thought that was worthy to be mentioned Wink
Predicting that a short term dip will occur but then rebound all the way back up and then reach new highs is 'the end of the world'. #bitcointhings

Attention: I have just been dubbed with the honorary title of the greatest most bearish type of bear there is: a permabear. This came after projecting a flat short term market and 'only' a 500% per year exponential growth trend.

And you just realized that ?

I've never been called 'permabear' before. That is supposed to be people who don't think that btc will ever rise again and is a bad long term investment. People like Fonzie.
The problem here is that you are talking to bitcoiners, who I start to believe are the same people who would think that MLM is the next best thing and is going to make them rich.


why dont you say how you really feel?   Cheesy   My understanding is that MLM is another way of saying that you think that bitcoin is a pyramid scheme and believers do NOT realize that bitcoin is a pyramid scheme.  Accordingly, you are of the belief that bitcoin bulls are delusional.   It seems too premature to come to any kind of conclusion that bitcoin bulls are delusional - maybe if the bitcoin price remains more or less in the sub $500 range for the next approximately 18 months, I may begin to agree with conclusions that bitcoin bulls are delusional... otherwise... your assertion seems to be premature... and the delusional ones seem to be the bears... especially any bear that happens to be informed about bitcoin.. if they believe that the price is going to remain below $500 or even to plummet into the below $266 arena.. they seem to be much more delusional than the bulls...  b/c the odds are much greater that btc prices are going up from here rather than down... especially, if we project into the next 3 months or longer




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May 16, 2014, 08:32:20 PM

What happened to the order book at stamp? Only 4k btc until $400

I see ~10k

This is what mine looks like, maybe it's a bug?



Of course that's a bug. No bids at all in that flat area? Cmon

Which is why I asked wtf just happened

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