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[wachtwoord]

Netherlands, weird folk too

how can you say its bad to distribute money to ppl, its not about throwing money to ppl who don t want to work. If you don t work you have like 400€, tuna pasta errday, enjoy your life ^^

It s about creating free hospital or school

the problem of the world is usa (and its not new), they do what they want, just look what they do in argentina. Wait till europa says fugg you us, we will laugh rly hard

Because they steal it from people. If they want to give money to people because they 'deserve' it they should try giving their own and not mine.

[lolbtc]

they steal LOL

they steal what ? You are rich because french are heavy consumers, because they re educated.
You are not rich but you have a free education. Quality education, how the fugg they steal you ?

ALL IS LINKED. BUTTERFLY EFFECT

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Dotto]

We know that America is bankrupt, the economy is wobbly, and that the Stock Markets are completely over-inflated, also that Russia and China are breaking away from the dollar.  So why not start a major war and use the conflict to re-correct the economy and steal the gas?  Blaming the economy crash on war and betting on the crash by selling days before it crashes.

Remember all wars are bankers wars.



http://www.waykiwayki.com/2014/07/mh17-war-economy.html

[JayJuanGee]

Netherlands, weird folk too

how can you say its bad to distribute money to ppl, its not about throwing money to ppl who don t want to work. If you don t work you have like 400€, tuna pasta errday, enjoy your life ^^

It s about creating free hospital or school

the problem of the world is usa (and its not new), they do what they want, just look what they do in argentina. Wait till europa says fugg you us, we will laugh rly hard

Because they steal it from people. If they want to give money to people because they 'deserve' it they should try giving their own and not mine.

Everybody needs to pay their fair share in order to protect the public goods and to safeguard various  public values and interests, and what is the fair share will vary depending upon how the people choose... Your complaining about  your paying too much or about your being robbed seems to be your having a perspective problem and your lack of being in touch with the values of public goods, values and interests

[hdbuck]

there doesn't exist a good financial system yet, whether in the USA or EU or Asian countries or even Arabic countries.... the real system that could serve all parties fairly is yet to exist, and I believe that we are not far away from it, however, it is funny because choosing between capitalism or socialism is like choosing between slavery or constant rape.... there is no reason to defend the actual systems but finding a way for a better system is what everyone should be seeking.


To be honest, IMHO I feel that we are at a very critical point that will change the picture of the world in the next 10 -20 years, it will be so different from today and I don't mean technologically, but the world leadership, policy making, map borders, region influence....

I suspect/hope this new system to be something close to Amir Taaki's anarchy theory (i like to call it DWO as in Decentralized World Order ^^):

We dont need to seek approval from a higher power, from a central party that is responsible for allocating and managing our lives. Because we believe we can do it better. Ourselves. We can serve our needs better when we do it between ourselves. We need to be responsible because, at the end of the day, if you are going to go to some mafia and ask them to be responsible for your life, they are always going to look after themselves and their friends and their people first..

Instead to go trough a legal system, with lawyers, and judges, and police, and bureaucrates, and politicians and legislators. Now we can use mathematical laws. And we can disintermediate a huge body of institutions, of power, of greed, to create pure law between people, governed by ourselves, with a mathematicaly undisputable consensus...

But it really have to crash hard in order for people to wake up and wipe that sh*t in bluring their sight so they can make real steps towards such concept.

[Erdogan]

they steal LOL

they steal what ? You are rich because french are heavy consumers, because they re educated.
You are not rich but you have a free education. Quality education, how the fugg they steal you ?

ALL IS LINKED. BUTTERFLY EFFECT

ÉTIENNE DE LA BOÉTIE:

"Roman tyrants . . . provided the city wards with feasts to
cajole the rabble. . . . Tyrants would distribute largesse, a
bushel of wheat, a gallon of wine, and a sesterce: and then
everybody would shamelessly cry, “Long live the King!”
The fools did not realize that they were merely recovering
a portion of their own property, and that their ruler could
not have given them what they were receiving without hav-
ing first taken it from them. A man might one day be pre-
sented with a sesterce and gorge himself at the public feast,
lauding Tiberius and Nero for handsome liberality, who on
the morrow, would be forced to abandon his property to
their avarice, his children to their lust, his very blood to the
cruelty of these magnificent emperors, without offering any
more resistance than a stone or a tree stump. The mob has
always behaved in this way—eagerly open to bribes. . . ."

https://mises.org/rothbard/boetie.pdf

[JayJuanGee]

Netherlands, weird folk too

how can you say its bad to distribute money to ppl, its not about throwing money to ppl who don t want to work. If you don t work you have like 400€, tuna pasta errday, enjoy your life ^^

It s about creating free hospital or school

the problem of the world is usa (and its not new), they do what they want, just look what they do in argentina. Wait till europa says fugg you us, we will laugh rly hard

Because they steal it from people. If they want to give money to people because they 'deserve' it they should try giving their own and not mine.

Everybody needs to pay their fair share in order to protect the public goods and to safeguard various  public values and interests, and what is the fair share will vary depending upon how the people choose... Your complaining about  your paying too much or about your being robbed seems to be your having a perspective problem and your lack of being in touch with the values of public goods, values and interests

1. There are zero public goods
2. 'fair' share? Okay and the masses decide what's fair? lol

Your statement about zero public goods seems to be fogging your thinking and your view of the reality of things in the world and living in various communities...

I already mentioned, in my previous post, air and water as examples of potential public goods, and I asked you to explain the ownership of air and water.  You did NOT respond to that post.   

Additionally, there are a lot of other examples of potential public goods, values and interests, but I wanted to start with something easy, something tangible , real and concrete, since likely it appears that we have to go back to 5 year-old thinking b/c based on your previously made conclusory comments regarding the lack of public goods, you seem to be having some difficulties with more abstract ideas.

[empowering]

[hdbuck]

[empowering]

[empowering]

[JayJuanGee]

Netherlands, weird folk too

how can you say its bad to distribute money to ppl, its not about throwing money to ppl who don t want to work. If you don t work you have like 400€, tuna pasta errday, enjoy your life ^^

It s about creating free hospital or school

the problem of the world is usa (and its not new), they do what they want, just look what they do in argentina. Wait till europa says fugg you us, we will laugh rly hard

Because they steal it from people. If they want to give money to people because they 'deserve' it they should try giving their own and not mine.

Everybody needs to pay their fair share in order to protect the public goods and to safeguard various  public values and interests, and what is the fair share will vary depending upon how the people choose... Your complaining about  your paying too much or about your being robbed seems to be your having a perspective problem and your lack of being in touch with the values of public goods, values and interests

1. There are zero public goods
2. 'fair' share? Okay and the masses decide what's fair? lol

Your statement about zero public goods seems to be fogging your thinking and your view of the reality of things in the world and living in various communities...

I already mentioned, in my previous post, air and water as examples of potential public goods, and I asked you to explain the ownership of air and water.  You did NOT respond to that post.   

Additionally, there are a lot of other examples of potential public goods, values and interests, but I wanted to start with something easy, something tangible , real and concrete, since likely it appears that we have to go back to 5 year-old thinking b/c based on your previously made conclusory comments regarding the lack of public goods, you seem to be having some difficulties with more abstract ideas.

very simple: everything is private property.

Yes.  Very simple indeed.  That way you do NOT need to think about anything except for your fantasy world.          

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[nioc]

http://youtu.be/d-_DuWWPvKg  
Published on 22 Oct 2013

VERY Interesting interview with R Kurzweil .. also there is a brief bit about Bitcoin and there is some discussion of decentralisation.

Bitcoin @ 4 minutes and 11 minutes  

whole vid is good though.

Exponential perspective.

Anyone watch the video?

Raises hand.  

Fuck virtual.  I like to smell real flowers.  Did you know that every color pansy has a subtlety different smell?
Every cat has a different feel to their fur.

Years ago I had 2 dogs that lived in the city and had only been to the suburbs.  The first time I took them on the 4 hour ride to my country home the following happened.  When we left the city and were in the suburbs their interest went up.  When we got to the country they were very excited, this was the first time experiencing this.  When we turned off the highway and onto the dirt road that followed the stream up the mountain they started to vibrate with excitement.  They knew it was right.  This was the world that they had evolved in since they were blue green algae billions of years ago and it resonated within them.

Currency is an invention of man so having it be virtual is ok because it already was.

[nioc]

Back on topic.  After delaying it several weeks I was forced to sell a small amount.  You should therefore see a price rise.

[hdbuck]

Back on topic.  After delaying it several weeks I was forced to sell a small amount.  You should therefore see a price rise.

more like a price drop as more people like you are forced to sell some in the bids to pay the bills.

[adamstgBit]

opportunity is knocking i'm looking to load up big time, and i see i don't have much time! time to buy!

[empowering]

http://youtu.be/d-_DuWWPvKg  
Published on 22 Oct 2013

VERY Interesting interview with R Kurzweil .. also there is a brief bit about Bitcoin and there is some discussion of decentralisation.

Bitcoin @ 4 minutes and 11 minutes  

whole vid is good though.

Exponential perspective.

Anyone watch the video?

Raises hand.  

Fuck virtual.  I like to smell real flowers.  Did you know that every color pansy has a subtlety different smell?
Every cat has a different feel to their fur.

Years ago I had 2 dogs that lived in the city and had only been to the suburbs.  The first time I took them on the 4 hour ride to my country home the following happened.  When we left the city and were in the suburbs their interest went up.  When we got to the country they were very excited, this was the first time experiencing this.  When we turned off the highway and onto the dirt road that followed the stream up the mountain they started to vibrate with excitement.  They knew it was right.  This was the world that they had evolved in since they were blue green algae billions of years ago and it resonated within them.

Currency is an invention of man so having it be virtual is ok because it already was.

I like to walk but I still use a car... even a plane... or a helicopter...  same as I like to read paper books, but also have an ipad and use pdfs...

Point is not that you will have t use virtual but that it will be there..

The few areas that Ray K mentions in the video are only a few "fun" and quite trivial examples in the bigger scheme, and also the reason I posted the video was more just to say world is changing and the problems we have today may not be the problems we have tomorrow..

But I hear what you are sayng... I love to walk and trek and get out into nature... and feel and smell and touch nature, people , animals, touch and smell the flowers and the coffee too : )

Though if you are receiving the digital information directly to your senses, and the quality was good  then you would not be able to tell the difference once the tech was good enough...  in fact you could be living in a "simulation" right now (check out simulation theory)

[adamstgBit]

it'll crash to 580 right?