[ANN][HLM] HELIUM

[saidtalib]

Is there another web site for this project? Now that SPR is gone, when will Helium wallet be available for download? When our Helium will be deposited in those wallets? When can we start setting up the masternode?

[szfinx]

Keep looking this thread and join the Slack channel for the announcement... The wallet will be ready this month and you can claim your coins.

[MoneyJ]

Maybe at 2018 we will see the launch of HLM wallet that may start deploying masternodes for the Helium network. I hope bitmain miner d3 is compatible with HLM

[szfinx]

Maybe at 2018 we will see the launch of HLM wallet that may start deploying masternodes for the Helium network. I hope bitmain miner d3 is compatible with HLM

It is.... Many team member already bought some.

[cinogrin]

Need updates here.  Im sure this project is on point but lack of communication makes it smell fishy.  I have a tiny fear that these guys just bought a bunch of spr early on and this whole thing was a manufactured pump and dump for spr.  

I don't think it's a scam, coins101 has a very good reputation. But yes, the communication is a disaster. It's only after someone here raises a big stink that we get any progress information. I can't understand what's so hard about writing a bi-weekly update, even if you have a day job. This is especially galling as they claim to do "Agile Development" in the ANN post. Now I work as an agile coder and frequent and timely communication is one of the top obligations of an agile team. Just as a reminder, there's an agile manifesto, and it says (among other things; emphasis mine):

Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer
through early and continuous delivery
of valuable software.

Business people and developers must work 
together daily throughout the project.

Honestly thinking about dumping all HLM once they can be traded and get out of this. Should have bought into Crown - team is also a split-off from SPR and they have a working masternode coin and service nodes and all the nice stuff.

DEVS: Please, you are doing your own project a huge disservice claiming Agile when you rarely communicate, your github is empty and you have no MVP to show. I bought into this not least because of your reputation and the Agile claim (which is rare enough). I confess I am losing hope by what I see instead. At least strike the Agile claim, it rubs it in every time I read it.

This this this. Really undermines the confidence in the team when they make such claims and completely fail at it right from the get go. Or maybe they're doing 3 month sprints. 

[nubbins7]

Trying to figure out where is the link for the windows wallet?
anyone can help out with that? thanks in advance.

[mdude77]

Trying to figure out where is the link for the windows wallet?
anyone can help out with that? thanks in advance.

Please see the Helium FAQ before asking questions.  It answers a lot of the common questions that people ask over and over and (and over) again, apparently without taking to do much, if any research first.

M

[arjuna BTC]

so, this project doesn't launch yet ?
but, why my friends already have this coin on cryptopia ?
anyone can explain me

[mdude77]

so, this project doesn't launch yet ?
but, why my friends already have this coin on cryptopia ?
anyone can explain me

Please see the Helium FAQ before asking questions.  It answers a lot of the common questions that people ask over and over and (and over) again, apparently without taking to do much, if any research first.

M

[nitego]

Need updates here.  Im sure this project is on point but lack of communication makes it smell fishy.  I have a tiny fear that these guys just bought a bunch of spr early on and this whole thing was a manufactured pump and dump for spr.  

I don't think it's a scam, coins101 has a very good reputation. But yes, the communication is a disaster. It's only after someone here raises a big stink that we get any progress information. I can't understand what's so hard about writing a bi-weekly update, even if you have a day job. This is especially galling as they claim to do "Agile Development" in the ANN post. Now I work as an agile coder and frequent and timely communication is one of the top obligations of an agile team. Just as a reminder, there's an agile manifesto, and it says (among other things; emphasis mine):

Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer
through early and continuous delivery
of valuable software.

Business people and developers must work 
together daily throughout the project.

Honestly thinking about dumping all HLM once they can be traded and get out of this. Should have bought into Crown - team is also a split-off from SPR and they have a working masternode coin and service nodes and all the nice stuff.

DEVS: Please, you are doing your own project a huge disservice claiming Agile when you rarely communicate, your github is empty and you have no MVP to show. I bought into this not least because of your reputation and the Agile claim (which is rare enough). I confess I am losing hope by what I see instead. At least strike the Agile claim, it rubs it in every time I read it.

This this this. Really undermines the confidence in the team when they make such claims and completely fail at it right from the get go. Or maybe they're doing 3 month sprints. 

As someone who has signed this manifesto since 2005 and worked on various Agile projects. I like to say it is not quite the same for this Project as these "Customers" have no feedback into the backlog or requirements and are really not owed any update as they are not "stakeholders" in the sense they do not pay for the Project nor have they determined what Helium should be or is. Updates are usually given to Customers to manage the backlog or establish priorities.

When Helium is launched and the governance is in place and you as a Masternode holder has made a vote on a Project, maybe then you can demand updates because you determined what should be done as a Stakeholder.

Helium uses the Agile method of development does not mean they should be accountable to everyone. Accountability is to Stakeholders. If Google where to design a open source tool for everyone or anyone, using Agile methods does that give everyone off the street a right to an update?  I think not. When you pay the piper you call the tune, until then sit tight and relax.

[szfinx]

Need updates here.  Im sure this project is on point but lack of communication makes it smell fishy.  I have a tiny fear that these guys just bought a bunch of spr early on and this whole thing was a manufactured pump and dump for spr.  

I don't think it's a scam, coins101 has a very good reputation. But yes, the communication is a disaster. It's only after someone here raises a big stink that we get any progress information. I can't understand what's so hard about writing a bi-weekly update, even if you have a day job. This is especially galling as they claim to do "Agile Development" in the ANN post. Now I work as an agile coder and frequent and timely communication is one of the top obligations of an agile team. Just as a reminder, there's an agile manifesto, and it says (among other things; emphasis mine):

Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer
through early and continuous delivery
of valuable software.

Business people and developers must work 
together daily throughout the project.

Honestly thinking about dumping all HLM once they can be traded and get out of this. Should have bought into Crown - team is also a split-off from SPR and they have a working masternode coin and service nodes and all the nice stuff.

DEVS: Please, you are doing your own project a huge disservice claiming Agile when you rarely communicate, your github is empty and you have no MVP to show. I bought into this not least because of your reputation and the Agile claim (which is rare enough). I confess I am losing hope by what I see instead. At least strike the Agile claim, it rubs it in every time I read it.

This this this. Really undermines the confidence in the team when they make such claims and completely fail at it right from the get go. Or maybe they're doing 3 month sprints. 

As someone who has signed this manifesto since 2005 and worked on various Agile projects. I like to say it is not quite the same for this Project as these "Customers" have no feedback into the backlog or requirements and are really not owed any update as they are not "stakeholders" in the sense they do not pay for the Project nor have they determined what Helium should be or is. Updates are usually given to Customers to manage the backlog or establish priorities.

When Helium is launched and the governance is in place and you as a Masternode holder has made a vote on a Project, maybe then you can demand updates because you determined what should be done as a Stakeholder.

Helium uses the Agile method of development does not mean they should be accountable to everyone. Accountability is to Stakeholders. If Google where to design a open source tool for everyone or anyone, using Agile methods does that give everyone off the street a right to an update?  I think not. When you pay the piper you call the tune, until then sit tight and relax.

"When you pay the piper you call the tune" - I m not sure of your situation, but I am not having a free ride here, I paid my way for HLM, it didn't just appeared in my account for free of charge.

The updates are important. That is the part of PR which make or break a project/company/organisation. There are many other project, many other opportunity. Why would a customer/stakeholder stay with one which leave them in the dark? People want to know what happen with their money. Helium is a good and promising project, but I am a bit worried it will be killed by the inadequacy of PR/communication in the medium run.

[Ayers]

Trying to figure out where is the link for the windows wallet?
anyone can help out with that? thanks in advance.

the coin is not launched yet you need to wait for them to announce the launch date before releasing the wallet, anyway i think they are safe on cryptopia, i would probably sell at the first pump lol

[tradingdisaster]

Project is really interesting and such amazing idea. It seems that blockchain will be used heavily.

What kind of pointless spammy comment is this? D'oh it uses blockchain tech heavily? No shit, Sherlock.

OK, I get it, bot trying to up its post count.

Helium uses the Agile method of development does not mean they should be accountable to everyone. Accountability is to Stakeholders. If Google where to design a open source tool for everyone or anyone, using Agile methods does that give everyone off the street a right to an update?  I think not. When you pay the piper you call the tune, until then sit tight and relax.

IDK, I avoided the direct comparison of a FOSS project and a company for various reasons. But if you bring it up - I am not sure if Google investors would be amused if they got told to bugger off. I sure as hell don't have to answer everyone individually, but if I told the company I have no accountability to shareholders, I am sure I know what would happen. I am not demanding the HLM team answers each token holder's every question. I am asking for regular updates of achievements, impediments, roadmap changes and the like.

Agile is not a religion, it serves a couple of goals - one of them is keeping every stakeholder in the loop. And yes, I believe that stewardship over a ambitious crypto project also entails regarding token holders as stakeholders - after all, they trust you and put money into your project that keeps the lights on in the long run. If you compare SPR and DASH, you can see what difference it makes if investors believe in your ability to keep developing the coin. Developers of successful crypto projects get paid by investors buying up the coins.

Ninja edit: I know that if I am proud of one of my projects, I love to tell everyone, it's only if it hits a snag that I stop. I fully understand that interacting with BCT (and maybe me) is hard and frustrating, but I don't think it helps just going radio silent. I am invested in another MN coin, KORE and the devs there fire on all cylinders giving updates. And it's not like they don't catch flak heavily.

[DuzyGej]

Trying to figure out where is the link for the windows wallet?
anyone can help out with that? thanks in advance.

the coin is not launched yet you need to wait for them to announce the launch date before releasing the wallet, anyway i think they are safe on cryptopia, i would probably sell at the first pump lol

HLM scam
The project will never happen

[poiseulle]

SPR is pretty much worthless after Helium go online? it is almost like a coin swap, transferring the value from one coin to another...

[duboisi]

If value of HLM is transfered from SPR, SPR would have negative value - the biggest breakthrough in crypto.

[Ayers]

SPR is pretty much worthless after Helium go online? it is almost like a coin swap, transferring the value from one coin to another...

yeah but the difference is that HLM comes with many more features than spreadcoin, like masternodes and has a better name maybe, also x11 maybe could be better will attract more miner than gpu now

[Crypthunt]

waiting for the next update,
already have few helium on cryptopia,,
hope can transfer helium wallet, but when the wallet will be ready ?

[poiseulle]

SPR is pretty much worthless after Helium go online? it is almost like a coin swap, transferring the value from one coin to another...

yeah but the difference is that HLM comes with many more features than spreadcoin, like masternodes and has a better name maybe, also x11 maybe could be better will attract more miner than gpu now

the new coin with the new tech is definetely better, it would be good for the holders of spreadcoin, they get two coins.

[mdude77]

waiting for the next update,
already have few helium on cryptopia,,
hope can transfer helium wallet, but when the wallet will be ready ?

Please see the Helium FAQ before asking questions.  It answers a lot of the common questions that people ask over and over and (and over) again, apparently without taking to do much, if any research first.

M