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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2558933 times)
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May 16, 2017, 09:32:52 PM
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sawa, I didn't touch any code related to the json-rpc stuff. My guess is that this is a recently introduced bug on the miningrigrentals end. It seems that they're appending an extra parameter on their share submission messages. Have you tried the same rentals on mainnet recently? My guess is that you'd see the same issue.
On any nodes the same error.
I tested a DGB node http://crypto.mine.nu:5027 based on the mainnet code.
When I got the error, I tried to switch the lease to the mainnet BTC http://crypto.office-on-the.net:9332 and to the fork http://crypto.office-on-the.net:9334.
The reaction of the nodes was the same everywhere - they reported an incorrect number of arguments.


You could also try packet sniffing (e.g. with tcpdump -X port 9332) to see what parameters they're sending; they might just be using some stratum extension that p2pool doesn't yet support.
If we know what extra data they're sending, we might be able to patch p2pool to support it (or, if it's safe, to ignore it).
I sent a tcpdump to your email

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May 17, 2017, 11:06:21 AM
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Hey! Where did all the Petahashes go? Huh It's 1.8 instead of recent 12-18 Ph. I mean jtoomims fork of course)
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May 17, 2017, 05:38:30 PM
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Hey! Where did all the Petahashes go? Huh It's 1.8 instead of recent 12-18 Ph. I mean jtoomims fork of course)
Nicehash rates are probably high right now. This will give you a chance to get more of your shares into the share chain and increase the amount of reward per block you'll get should a block be found. The ≥1 PH/s of hashrate on my nodes will be staying on jtoomimnet p2pool no matter what, so we will find a block eventually even if the Nicehash renters never come back. It might take a few weeks, though.

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May 17, 2017, 11:26:39 PM
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P2pool is sailing death slow !

http://imgur.com/a/ptZyP

It is better to make an agreement to join the two versions and join forces  Shocked
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May 18, 2017, 12:42:49 AM
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P2pool is sailing death slow !

http://imgur.com/a/ptZyP

It is better to make an agreement to join the two versions and join forces  Shocked

That's the plan (for me anyway). Just waiting on testing to compete and merged into main p2pool branch.

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May 18, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
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is there ETA for payment or wait until some week wahaha (◕‿◕)

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May 18, 2017, 10:55:53 AM
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is there ETA for payment or wait until some week wahaha (◕‿◕)

If you're mining on P2Pool, you should know the answer to this question already. When we hit a block (on one side of the fork), all miners on that side will be paid out, proportional to (as far as I understand!) the number of shares they have in the sharechain. That's IF they're currently mining when the block is hit, otherwise, they get nothing Cheesy

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May 18, 2017, 12:33:58 PM
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... When we hit a block (on one side of the fork), all miners on that side will be paid out, proportional to (as far as I understand!) the number of shares they have in the sharechain...

More accurately, a P2Pool miner will be paid according to the total worth of the accepted shares he or she has in the P2Pool sharechain when a block is found. For example, if Alice found one share that is of the same difficulty level as Bob's ten shares combined, their payouts according to their respective shares would be the same. P2Pool's payouts are weighted according to share difficulty, not share quantity.

... That's IF they're currently mining when the block is hit, otherwise, they get nothing...

That is incorrect. A P2Pool miner is paid according to the total worth of his or her shares remaining in the sharechain when a block is found. The sharechain contains approximately three days' worth of shares. So, for example, even if Alice were to stop mining on P2Pool two days before P2Pool finds a block, Alice still has approximately one day's worth of accepted shares that she will get paid for when the block is found.
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May 18, 2017, 11:46:04 PM
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That is incorrect. A P2Pool miner is paid according to the total worth of his or her shares remaining in the sharechain when a block is found. The sharechain contains approximately three days' worth of shares. So, for example, even if Alice were to stop mining on P2Pool two days before P2Pool finds a block, Alice still has approximately one day's worth of accepted shares that she will get paid for when the block is found.
I wondered about that: If you mine a share that exceeds the difficulty threshold do you get paid more for a share that way exceeds the threshold over one that just squeaks by? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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May 19, 2017, 01:57:42 AM
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If you mine a share that exceeds the difficulty threshold do you get paid more for a share that way exceeds the threshold over one that just squeaks by?
The difficulty of the share is different from the hash that the share actually gets. The threshold for the share is encoded into the share itself, and is part of what gets hashed, which means it's like saying "I promised you I would make a share with difficulty X, and if you hash this sentence (which includes nonce Y) you'll see that it meets that difficulty level." It doesn't matter how far you exceed that difficulty threshold.

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May 19, 2017, 02:47:03 AM
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This seems like yet another example of people not understanding what we are actually doing. Shocked

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May 19, 2017, 09:14:47 PM
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To whomever is mining on ml.toom.im:9332 with address 3GU89xZmzJfCBXFzbB3mC2dsxDyKqrD7nz:

P2pool does not support multisig or P2SH addresses. Any worker name that is not a regular P2PKH address (starting with a 1) ends up contributing to the default address for that node. In other words, you're mining into my wallet, not your own.

I'll send you the 0.125 btc you made in the last block soon-ish (few days? I don't currently have access to that wallet), but I think everyone would be happier if you mined directly into your own address. Edit: sent.

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May 20, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
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Can someone explain the drop in hashing power pointed to p2pool?  I saw someone else mention it was up to 12PH and now it's hovering between 2-3PH.  Did I miss something? 

Everyone go back to a centralized pool?  What the hay??
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May 20, 2017, 12:32:54 AM
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Can someone explain the drop in hashing power pointed to p2pool?  I saw someone else mention it was up to 12PH and now it's hovering between 2-3PH.  Did I miss something? 

Everyone go back to a centralized pool?  What the hay??

Rentals are only sustainable if they're hitting blocks on a regular basis. The price of rentals also rises with demand. Most likely scenario is the rented hash that was contributing to P2Pool ran out and the cost vs. profit was too great a ratio to justify another week of 'maybe a block'
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May 20, 2017, 04:18:07 AM
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This seems like yet another example of people not understanding what we are actually doing. Shocked
No, I thought it was the former, but it had me questioning a bit. Technically the scenario of paying more for bigger shares would not be logical as the guy/gal/dog who submits the winning share would get a larger percentage of the proverbial pie.

I don't understand every nuance, my specialty is hacking and fixing the mining hardware. That I'm good at :-)
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May 20, 2017, 04:47:25 AM
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Ok that mean fair on share wahaha. nice p2pool you are great. i see last time friday is 4 Ph/s now why become 2 Ph/s wahaha....(◕‿◕)

To whomever is mining on ml.toom.im:9332 with address 3GU89xZmzJfCBXFzbB3mC2dsxDyKqrD7nz:

P2pool does not support multisig or P2SH addresses. Any worker name that is not a regular P2PKH address (starting with a 1) ends up contributing to the default address for that node. In other words, you're mining into my wallet, not your own.

I'll send you the 0.125 btc you made in the last block soon-ish (few days? I don't currently have access to that wallet), but I think everyone would be happier if you mined directly into your own address.

is that mean p2pool adresss or something?when i used another address can't run when p2pool adress from generated tools. only that workingo(≧▽≦)o

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May 20, 2017, 06:51:26 AM
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This seems like yet another example of people not understanding what we are actually doing. Shocked
No, I thought it was the former, but it had me questioning a bit. Technically the scenario of paying more for bigger shares would not be logical as the guy/gal/dog who submits the winning share would get a larger percentage of the proverbial pie.

I don't understand every nuance, my specialty is hacking and fixing the mining hardware. That I'm good at :-)

Technically, the guy/gal/dog who submits the winning share DOES get the larger percentage of the proverbial pie, or at least used to, in the form of a 0.5% incentive. I don't know if that's still coded in or not though.

From the P2Pool Wiki: A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (A miner with the aim to harm others could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) The remaining 99.5% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.
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May 20, 2017, 07:13:26 AM
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This seems like yet another example of people not understanding what we are actually doing. Shocked
No, I thought it was the former, but it had me questioning a bit. Technically the scenario of paying more for bigger shares would not be logical as the guy/gal/dog who submits the winning share would get a larger percentage of the proverbial pie.

I don't understand every nuance, my specialty is hacking and fixing the mining hardware. That I'm good at :-)

Technically, the guy/gal/dog who submits the winning share DOES get the larger percentage of the proverbial pie, or at least used to, in the form of a 0.5% incentive. I don't know if that's still coded in or not though.

From the P2Pool Wiki: A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (A miner with the aim to harm others could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) The remaining 99.5% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.

so that it need waiting around 13 days to payout huh?(◕‿◕)

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May 20, 2017, 08:47:40 PM
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Hello,

I'm still trying to understand how P2Pool works. How do I find a list of P2Pool servers? The idea is that I make a node and connect to a server, right? I can't quite visualize how all of this works, despite looking on Google for information visualizations. The image I saw on the Bitcoin wiki didn't make much sense, seemed too technical.

There are multiple servers, right?

Is there like one main server? Or do a bunch of nodes together make the server?

I read and read but it doesn't stick/make-sense. So, hopefully, I can talk to people about this.
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May 20, 2017, 10:39:56 PM
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Hello,

I'm still trying to understand how P2Pool works. How do I find a list of P2Pool servers? The idea is that I make a node and connect to a server, right? I can't quite visualize how all of this works, despite looking on Google for information visualizations. The image I saw on the Bitcoin wiki didn't make much sense, seemed too technical.

There are multiple servers, right?

Is there like one main server? Or do a bunch of nodes together make the server?

I read and read but it doesn't stick/make-sense. So, hopefully, I can talk to people about this.
Each node is its own pool. p2pool is a collection of pools. You can either make your own node or use another.

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