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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2034582 times)
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October 14, 2016, 05:35:59 PM
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I've been working on a new node scanner for P2Pool.org and while I was writing the crawler I realized it would be trivial to add in the network edges for each node and visualize it, so I did.

I'm really happy with the result so I thought I'd share it...

This is just a snapshot in time (10:30 this morning) of the network, but I may update it hourly at some point in the future.

I was quite pleased with our node count and connectivity!

111 active miners
91 nodes discovered (p2pool version 16+)
47 public nodes (blue)
44 private nodes (yellow)

The visualization at http://p2pool.org/nodes/ is interactive, allows you to zoom for IP addresses, and click to highlight a nodes peers.

I doubt it will work on mobile browsers...

Here is a screen shot of the P2Pool network:



See the interactive version: http://p2pool.org/nodes/


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October 14, 2016, 06:17:19 PM
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note : disable the auto-rotation if you can, browser freeze to recreate the whole schematic.

but it works, no problem.  Smiley

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October 15, 2016, 09:27:38 AM
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I've been working on a new node scanner for P2Pool.org and while I was writing the crawler I realized it would be trivial to add in the network edges for each node and visualize it, so I did.

I'm really happy with the result so I thought I'd share it...

This is just a snapshot in time (10:30 this morning) of the network, but I may update it hourly at some point in the future.

I was quite pleased with our node count and connectivity!

111 active miners
91 nodes discovered (p2pool version 16+)
47 public nodes (blue)
44 private nodes (yellow)

The visualization at http://p2pool.org/nodes/ is interactive, allows you to zoom for IP addresses, and click to highlight a nodes peers.

I doubt it will work on mobile browsers...

Here is a screen shot of the P2Pool network:



See the interactive version: http://p2pool.org/nodes/


Wow. That is cool. I found my node on the interactive version. Smiley

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October 15, 2016, 05:41:34 PM
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back to the reality ... for the hashrate. Cry


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October 15, 2016, 07:59:17 PM
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I think you may have spoken too soon Wink

Looks like ~2PH just jumped online...

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October 15, 2016, 08:40:44 PM
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French ... but not so much   ---===---   P2P ... it's people at the end   ---===---   P2Pool (10,9 GH/s).
Comment miner des bitcoins ? Un tutoriel est là : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114415.0
Bitcoin change everything ... an explain of this fact : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY
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October 16, 2016, 12:14:35 PM
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What is up with this random hashrate on p2pool? Rentals?

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October 16, 2016, 01:32:47 PM
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Hard to decipher if it's random, it's certainly not consistent. It has been a long time since I saw 6 PH/s on P2Pool, and we're back over 100 miners too 😍.
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October 16, 2016, 02:33:19 PM
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Hard to decipher if it's random, it's certainly not consistent. It has been a long time since I saw 6 PH/s on P2Pool, and we're back over 100 miners too 😍.
The share difficulty is over 2,000,000. Wild!

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October 16, 2016, 04:53:25 PM
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 Grin you can trust the P2Pool to handle this ... beautifully.  Cheesy
From 1,5 PH/s to 7 PH/s in less than 1 hour.


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Comment miner des bitcoins ? Un tutoriel est là : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114415.0
Bitcoin change everything ... an explain of this fact : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY
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October 16, 2016, 09:10:26 PM
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I am going to guess that the hashrate spike was one of the manufacturers testing their new stuff on p2pool for compatibility. The bummer is that all of my shares were orphaned during the spike.

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October 16, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
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I am going to guess that the hashrate spike was one of the manufacturers testing their new stuff on p2pool for compatibility. The bummer is that all of my shares were orphaned during the spike.
That of course happens on p2pool when there is one miner with a high % of the pool ...
For normal BTC that's called a 51% attack.
For p2pool that's ... not uncommon.

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October 17, 2016, 12:21:39 AM
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Luckiest pool in Bitcoin Smiley

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October 17, 2016, 05:19:11 AM
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I am going to guess that the hashrate spike was one of the manufacturers testing their new stuff on p2pool for compatibility. The bummer is that all of my shares were orphaned during the spike.
That of course happens on p2pool when there is one miner with a high % of the pool ...
For normal BTC that's called a 51% attack.
For p2pool that's ... not uncommon.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Tongue

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October 17, 2016, 04:39:57 PM
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Has been me with rentals (except for 1 spike yesterday iirr) for the last month and a half.
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October 17, 2016, 08:23:15 PM
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Has been me with rentals (except for 1 spike yesterday iirr) for the last month and a half.


Hey SixOfFive - Thanks for letting us in on the inside scope. Just curious if you're willing to share your long term plan; I.E. Just testing or plans for bringing that Hashrate long term to P2Pool? 

Cheers!
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October 17, 2016, 08:59:09 PM
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To start with, it was a test and continues to be a test I guess. Recently this has become a collaboration between myself and a friend after proving to be profitable.

Basically the first couple weeks were minor amount of mining from rentals and setting up a large amount of merge mining and getting that balanced properly as well as automatic distribution of the MM coins to external accounts ... something I really wish was native to p2pool (not that I'm complaining... p2pool is awesome!)

It may become long term, but I'm not certain if it will be constant (they are rentals, and as such (like on NH) can be affected by market).
While I would like to have a high amount of hashing on the pool (10phs+), obviously thats rather costly in rentals (not to mention limited .. NH for both euro and america combined doesn't even have 20phs atm). It will most likely be surges of up to 10phs every 3 or 4 days which last between a few hours and upwards of a day.

I have smaller amounts on a constant level on p2pool, but nothing more than say 50ths in total. My old BFL running at 6ghs I even have pointed to it (free power at my rental, so cost of running it isn't a factor).

If it continues to be profitable for us, I may seriously consider dedicating 1 or 2 phs for the long term on the pool via rentals.

I really do apologize for the orphans for some people I've created... I didn't realize that that may be a by-product of this.
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October 18, 2016, 02:11:47 PM
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Thanks for checking in, it's much appreciated, and welcome to p2pool!

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I really do apologize for the orphans for some people I've created... I didn't realize that that may be a by-product of this.

P2Pool has an inherently high orphan rate for shares (and an inherently low one for blocks), it's part of mining on the pool and I'd encourage you to continue your testing.

To me the overall benefit of the increased hashrate/reduced variance greatly outweighs the orphaned shares.

That being said, I do think it's important to note that you will find greater returns in the long run with a consistent hashrate on the pool.

PPLNS (p2pool's payout method) by design discourages pool hopping, pretty successfully. While your not technically hopping, it will have the same effect for you.

Also, to truly have an accurate test of how p2pool can preform for you; you would need to mine for at least 3 days (the approximate length of the p2pool share chain), and then subsequently have the pool find a block. If you can spread your budget over that time I believe you will see better results.


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October 18, 2016, 11:43:13 PM
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PPLNS (p2pool's payout method) by design discourages pool hopping, pretty successfully. While your not technically hopping, it will have the same effect for you.
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False.

PPLNS has no expected effect on reward for hopping miners.

Edit: the thread title means hopping isn't statistically expected to gain anything, but it wont lose anything either.

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October 19, 2016, 02:20:42 AM
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PPLNS (p2pool's payout method) by design discourages pool hopping, pretty successfully. While your not technically hopping, it will have the same effect for you.
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False.

PPLNS has no expected effect on reward for hopping miners.

Edit: the thread title means hopping isn't statistically expected to gain anything, but it wont lose anything either.

If you read OP you'll note he is buying large short lived mining rental contracts on p2pool, on his last big contract we/he happened to mine a very lucky block that likely paid every share he had in the chain from that rental.

While I'm enjoying our current luck, one thing I know is that it's bound to change...

Hence while he likely just had a very profitable run with our lucky block, that will not always be the case (rent multi-PH of rigs, find a block just after the rental expires).

The highest probability for the best reward is clearly to stretch out the mining to at least include 1 expected block, if not several.

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