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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2594566 times)
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January 28, 2017, 08:32:03 AM
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Nice to wake up to a block.
Even better to find it was one of my S9's that did it!

My first ever block wow that feels so good.

Very early S9 running rip off miner 1.0.0 never thought they could do it!

I upgraded the firmware to the latest non auto tune this week, maybe it was that maybe it was just chance!

Not bad for transactions and fees on my node either.
Glad to have not driven max block size down to much or restricted fees to much.
Finally looks like the hours of node tweaking have paid off as well.

That was a long drawn out one, thanks to those  who kept the hash here, even I was starting to get cold feet.
After buying a decent rack server to create a UK based node I guess that's kept me in the long haul.
We could do with some more Miners on p2Pool to improve on variance but overall still another good payout even for such a long duration!


Congratulations!
Did you have rebates or put everything from your pocket?
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January 28, 2017, 08:42:30 AM
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Nice to wake up to a block.
Even better to find it was one of my S9's that did it!

My first ever block wow that feels so good.

Very early S9 running rip off miner 1.0.0 never thought they could do it!

I upgraded the firmware to the latest non auto tune this week, maybe it was that maybe it was just chance!

Not bad for transactions and fees on my node either.
Glad to have not driven max block size down to much or restricted fees to much.
Finally looks like the hours of node tweaking have paid off as well.

That was a long drawn out one, thanks to those  who kept the hash here, even I was starting to get cold feet.
After buying a decent rack server to create a UK based node I guess that's kept me in the long haul.
We could do with some more Miners on p2Pool to improve on variance but overall still another good payout even for such a long duration!


Congratulations!
Did you have rebates or put everything from your pocket?

I gambled a lot on rental hash earlier in the week and last weekend. All those shares fell out the chain way before this block. I probably made a few dollars profit.

I'm not doing any more rental hash. Every time I think something will happen it never does.
I'm not a gambling man and I started getting into rental deep then realised what I was doing.

I think my time to educate people about bitcoin and mining p2Pool is worth more than rental hash any day.
Even with the low hash rate and high variance p2Pool still pays me more than any other pool.

Fingers crossed the block gods give us a chance of a good run for a while now.

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January 28, 2017, 02:30:20 PM
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http://p2pool.org/ site is down  Sad
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January 28, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
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http://p2pool.org/ site is down  Sad

Sorry about that, I don't seem to be able to troubleshoot it remotely, looks like it will be down till Monday...

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January 28, 2017, 03:33:19 PM
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And what happens if a block is found now that the main node is down?
Is it not accepted, lost or ignored?  Huh
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January 28, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
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And what happens if a block is found now that the main node is down?
Is it not accepted, lost or ignored?  Huh

Nothing changes... it's not a special node or main node, just another node on the network with a little more data on the front end Wink

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January 28, 2017, 06:17:30 PM
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If you have your local p2pool-16.0:python console up you can see transactions happening and such. I run the p2pool node on linux and I keep the console up so I can make sure things are actually happening. It also gives local information on hash rate, (as it is scrolling past).

Not sure how this would work in windows or mac though.

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January 28, 2017, 06:19:10 PM
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Likewise my full node here is running fine (I have a token amount of hash running, enough to keep the house warm)
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January 28, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
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 But you can see the pool luck or not ?
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January 28, 2017, 08:33:57 PM
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But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

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January 28, 2017, 08:44:47 PM
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But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

If you dig back through this thread I shared most of the calculations the node uses.

The PITA is setting up, populating, and then updating a DB...

Managed to get the node back up remotely, not sure what happened, will review the logs on Monday.

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January 28, 2017, 10:43:27 PM
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But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

If you dig back through this thread I shared most of the calculations the node uses.

The PITA is setting up, populating, and then updating a DB...

Managed to get the node back up remotely, not sure what happened, will review the logs on Monday.
Ok cool I'll certainly have another trawl through.
I've gone over a lot of this thread already but was more than likely looking for something else and missed it.
Don't mind a database challenge now and again Smiley

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January 28, 2017, 11:55:22 PM
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But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

If you dig back through this thread I shared most of the calculations the node uses.

The PITA is setting up, populating, and then updating a DB...

Managed to get the node back up remotely, not sure what happened, will review the logs on Monday.
Ok cool I'll certainly have another trawl through.
I've gone over a lot of this thread already but was more than likely looking for something else and missed it.
Don't mind a database challenge now and again Smiley

Mine is a LAMP soulutuon, checks for new blocks every minute via cron, pulls the rest from existing p2pool end points and BTC cli, it's ugly and amateur otherwise I'd release it Wink

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January 29, 2017, 04:37:24 PM
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I have a couple of questions.

1) How to configure my p2pool node as a full node that accepts incoming miners and properly reimburses them?

2) What in the HE double tooth pics happened between p2pool.in and p2pool.org? There seems to be something weird that happened and no search I have done on google or bitcointalk seems to provide any history or background. I went with the information provided by p2pool.org when I noticed the p2pool.in stats page appears to have stopped working sometime in 2015 between January and March. Being as it is now January 2017 it appears that p2pool.in was no longer providing network stats. Further research shows that p2pool.in was merged into p2pool.org's info when the GIT repository was changed from p2pool/forestv to p2pool/p2pool . Unfortunately there are still several places where there are dire warnings about using p2pool.org verses p2pool.in on various webpages and even on the old GIT for forestv. I heard references that forestv had taken a leave due to personal issues but I have not seen any official retraction stating that p2pool.org is ok to use.

The confusion surrounding question 2 needs to be addressed as I am thinking it is blocking many miners from choosing to go with p2pool in any form. Contradictory information often does not lead to wrong action, it leads to no action.

If this is too personal or touchy a subject then please email me with a response at dzimmerm56"at"g m a i l . c o m. (you will need to intelligently fix the addy, but I know all of you are intelligent)

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I have a couple of questions.

1) How to configure my p2pool node as a full node that accepts incoming miners and properly reimburses them?

2) What in the HE double tooth pics happened between p2pool.in and p2pool.org? There seems to be something weird that happened and no search I have done on google or bitcointalk seems to provide any history or background. I went with the information provided by p2pool.org when I noticed the p2pool.in stats page appears to have stopped working sometime in 2015 between January and March. Being as it is now January 2017 it appears that p2pool.in was no longer providing network stats. Further research shows that p2pool.in was merged into p2pool.org's info when the GIT repository was changed from p2pool/forestv to p2pool/p2pool . Unfortunately there are still several places where there are dire warnings about using p2pool.org verses p2pool.in on various webpages and even on the old GIT for forestv. I heard references that forestv had taken a leave due to personal issues but I have not seen any official retraction stating that p2pool.org is ok to use.

The confusion surrounding question 2 needs to be addressed as I am thinking it is blocking many miners from choosing to go with p2pool in any form. Contradictory information often does not lead to wrong action, it leads to no action.

If this is too personal or touchy a subject then please email me with a response at dzimmerm56"at"g m a i l . c o m. (you will need to intelligently fix the addy, but I know all of you are intelligent)
Hi.
I have only been running a node for a month now but mining p2Pool on and off for a while now. I've decided to mine p2Pool for the forseable future.

Most of what you need to know can be found here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153232.0

And here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62842.0

I run my node under Centos rather than Ubuntu.
It's not that difficult to do and most of the info in the first link, whilst a little old is still applicable.

It took about a week to fine tune my node and it runs really well.
I'm at www.ukp2pool.uk and it's a free public node.

Give it a try on an old PC first if you don't have much experience with Linux just to make sure you can.
If you have any questions then post up here I'm sure the community will help.

No issues using git pull from the two links I posted.
I have the latest version from here have no problems.

I believe p2Pool.org is forest's site not sure about the other one. I've come across it and the stats are years old.
The pool is very much alive and well, just needs more Miners so jump aboard.
Don't let the variance between blocks worry you, sit back and smile with a decent pay out.

Both p2Pool.org and the other are just nodes on the network, just like mine.
There is no master node anywhere, under the hood they are all the same.


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January 30, 2017, 12:54:46 AM
Last edit: January 30, 2017, 01:48:16 AM by windpath
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2) What in the HE double tooth pics happened between p2pool.in and p2pool.org?

I don't know all the history but I'll explain what I can, most of the "old timers" who were here when I came around are not active anymore, but perhaps someone will fill in the blanks.

p2pool.in was developed by someone other than me or Forest, when the developer moved on he gave control to Forrest, when p2pool.in broke Forrest did not have the time/inclination to fix it.

When that happened I built minefast.coincadence.com (now p2pool.org)  mostly out of a desire to have the data for myself, but I figured I'd share it.

The story with p2pool.org was that it was a squatted domain, when Forrest launched p2pool the then owner set up a large high fee node for Bitcoin and many altcoins rather then turning it over to Forrest, that is where all the warnings came from.

A couple/few years ago I reached out to the owner of p2pool.org and was able to negotiate a deal and buy the domain. I then shut down all the nodes and made it a simple information site for folks interested in p2pool.

A few months ago I was moving servers and decided to move the front end from minefast.coincadence.com to p2pool.org. At this point I also switched from 0 fee to 2% (1 for me, 1 for Forrest).

I developed the current site and own p2pool.org.

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January 30, 2017, 06:51:42 AM
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.
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January 30, 2017, 07:00:23 AM
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.


If anyone is interested, there is some initial code to enable a p2pool backed mining pool here: https://github.com/yrral86/proxy-p2pool

Essentially, it allows a group of people to mine to a single p2pool address and it records the shares each address/username submits.  The log file can then be parsed to determine payouts.  I ran it for a couple months quite some time ago, but there was not much interest at that time.

PM me if you need some help setting it up.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
While no idea is perfect, some ideas are useful.
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January 30, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.

I would suggest lottery mining on something like http://solo.ckpool.org/. 50GH/s probably only produces dust payments.

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January 31, 2017, 07:02:21 AM
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.

The high variance for small miners is why we developed the NastyPoP payout method, where even the smallest miners get paid fairly for their contributions to p2pool.  I'd recommend checking it out.  We charge 0% fees and even add 0.75% of the NastyFans weekly distribution to be split among NastyPoP miners to provide a >100% payout.

https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/

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