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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2567600 times)
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February 13, 2017, 06:11:42 PM
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Although I am new to P2Pool, I've been mining on a hobby scale(250GH/s~2.5TH/s) for a couple years now and am always looking into how to be as efficient as possible, might anyone have any suggestions that I can implent to bring us up as a whole?

The biggest impact you will see is finding low latency peers (that remain online) to connect to. Take a look at your /peer_addresses endpoint, and then some of those peers /peer_addresses endpoints, make a list, ping them all, and add the low latency ones when you restart your node with the -n IP_Address_Here, you can add many each with a -n
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February 13, 2017, 10:17:46 PM
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Although I am new to P2Pool, I've been mining on a hobby scale(250GH/s~2.5TH/s) for a couple years now and am always looking into how to be as efficient as possible, might anyone have any suggestions that I can implent to bring us up as a whole?

The biggest impact you will see is finding low latency peers (that remain online) to connect to. Take a look at your /peer_addresses endpoint, and then some of those peers /peer_addresses endpoints, make a list, ping them all, and add the low latency ones when you restart your node with the -n IP_Address_Here, you can add many each with a -n

High availability is the plan. I was wondering if that was possible!? That is awesome!! Thank you for the advice, I will soak it all up like a sponge.  Cool
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February 14, 2017, 02:02:16 AM
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High availability is the plan. I was wondering if that was possible!? That is awesome!! Thank you for the advice, I will soak it all up like a sponge.  Cool

One of the awesome things about p2pool is that from day 1 the pool as a whole has had 100% uptime, nodes come and go. Folks working towards keeping their nodes up and running is what makes it happen. Glad to have you, and welcome to the party!
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February 14, 2017, 02:44:17 AM
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Time for a Block Dance again... Embarrassed
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February 14, 2017, 02:16:58 PM
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Stay Online.

In the meantime I have made some performance improvements mostly regarding reusing hashes for the txids/wtxids.

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February 14, 2017, 02:48:19 PM
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  Chief rain on face ask for more btc blocks  Grin

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February 14, 2017, 04:51:18 PM
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High availability is the plan. I was wondering if that was possible!? That is awesome!! Thank you for the advice, I will soak it all up like a sponge.  Cool

One of the awesome things about p2pool is that from day 1 the pool as a whole has had 100% uptime, nodes come and go. Folks working towards keeping their nodes up and running is what makes it happen. Glad to have you, and welcome to the party!

Thank you Windpath! Next on my list is to setup an apache server and whatnot. I found a post awhile back that explained why and how the is a good practice, but I seemed to have misplaced the bookmark. It was most likely outdated anyways so im not to terribly disappointed.
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February 14, 2017, 05:41:47 PM
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Time for a Block Dance again... Embarrassed

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February 16, 2017, 08:08:11 PM
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Go all p2pool!!
left a little!!!
include all powerful ASIC!!
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February 16, 2017, 08:17:55 PM
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Who will disable ASIC - rip kidney!!!
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February 16, 2017, 09:16:42 PM
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I am utterly newbie. I have been mining for a week. No reference with other pools. Maybe i will try other in the future but i do like p2pool's approach. However, as uninformed as I might be, my impression so far has been that small pools are really sort of philanthropic bitcoin support groups. It's rather difficult to mine stuff with mere 2PH in the pool and it's not until some big player comes in and raises the joined hashing capacity above 5-6 PH that the block finding times get to some useful frequency.
If we want p2pool to succeed I believe we should be aware that the pool needs more, much more muscle.

Again, supernewbie, 7 days of serious mining only. please feel free to discuss any misconception I have. Smiley
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February 17, 2017, 03:36:50 AM
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Completely agree some more juice would be nice, but only in the sense that it would reduce variance. A key concept to grasp is that a higher pool hash rate does not have a long term impact on a given miners earnings, it simply reduces variance and smooths out a miners income. The exception is when a block is not found during a given difficulty increment, right now our luck is not great, and this may prove to be the case, however the only thing I know about luck is that it's bound to change....

TBH I loose a bunch of money running my node, however I'm an idealist and to me the bennifit of keeping the only trustless decentralized pool chugging along is the reward in itself.

I think we will see a P2Pool 2.0 soon, smart contracts will replace the share chain and allow many smaller miners to rejoin and earn rewards that don't equate to unspendable dust.

I'll predict that the days of centralized pools are numbered and that one day in the not to distant future we will see the majority of hashrate on some sort of smart contract based trustless pool.

In the mean time, for me at least, P2Pool is the only responsible choice...

I'm looking forward to spending some time making my node more useful, efficient and reliable in the coming weeks. Vacation ends Tuesday, and I'll be working exclusively on my node for at least a few days:)

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February 17, 2017, 08:05:03 AM
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thanks for the insight, windpath.

BTW, as you are to be at it, any advice to optimize would be most welcome. I keep trying to make my latency low but I do not quite grasp best values I am afraid. For instance anything above 4 connections in the settings for my client have a serious impact in the latency.

also, do you guys know if that segwit thingie I have read about recently is anything that is to be supported by p2pool any time soon? I have seen already that some other pools are mining segwit compatible blocks.
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February 17, 2017, 10:18:54 AM
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Completely agree some more juice would be nice, but only in the sense that it would reduce variance. A key concept to grasp is that a higher pool hash rate does not have a long term impact on a given miners earnings, it simply reduces variance and smooths out a miners income. The exception is when a block is not found during a given difficulty increment, right now our luck is not great, and this may prove to be the case, however the only thing I know about luck is that it's bound to change....

TBH I loose a bunch of money running my node, however I'm an idealist and to me the bennifit of keeping the only trustless decentralized pool chugging along is the reward in itself.

I think we will see a P2Pool 2.0 soon, smart contracts will replace the share chain and allow many smaller miners to rejoin and earn rewards that don't equate to unspendable dust.

I'll predict that the days of centralized pools are numbered and that one day in the not to distant future we will see the majority of hashrate on some sort of smart contract based trustless pool.

In the mean time, for me at least, P2Pool is the only responsible choice...

I'm looking forward to spending some time making my node more useful, efficient and reliable in the coming weeks. Vacation ends Tuesday, and I'll be working exclusively on my node for at least a few days:)

/end rambling

I understand that you are losing money running your node.
But if you could host the P2pool statistics page on a free web hosting like WIX for example, the people working in the pool did not go "blind" when the P2pool stats page is turned off.
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February 17, 2017, 02:12:18 PM
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When WIX can handle bitcoind with -txindex, p2pool, and a MySQL DB I'd be happy to Wink
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February 17, 2017, 06:01:10 PM
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You want some more juice?

I'm going to rent 1.2BTC of hash today and point it at my p2pool node.

Crossing my fingers we find a block... Theoretically I should have approximately a 1 in ten chance of finding a block for all of us!

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February 17, 2017, 06:34:49 PM
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TBH I loose a bunch of money running my node, however I'm an idealist and to me the bennifit of keeping the only trustless decentralized pool chugging along is the reward in itself.

I think we will see a P2Pool 2.0 soon, smart contracts will replace the share chain and allow many smaller miners to rejoin and earn rewards that don't equate to unspendable dust.

I'll predict that the days of centralized pools are numbered and that one day in the not to distant future we will see the majority of hashrate on some sort of smart contract based trustless pool.

In the mean time, for me at least, P2Pool is the only responsible choice...

I'm looking forward to spending some time making my node more useful, efficient and reliable in the coming weeks. Vacation ends Tuesday, and I'll be working exclusively on my node for at least a few days:)

Aye, same here.  I run several p2pool nodes at cost, and keep them well tuned and connected.  Variance sucks, but it happens.  Blocks sometimes come in waves, and at other times there are lulls.


On another note; Veqtrus, or anyone working on this as well... Is it safe to run Segwit versions with p2pool at this time?  The PR for Segwit seems to be handling pretty well, I just want to confirm it is safe or okay to use with the pool at this time Smiley
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February 18, 2017, 12:52:04 AM
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Completely agree some more juice would be nice, but only in the sense that it would reduce variance. A key concept to grasp is that a higher pool hash rate does not have a long term impact on a given miners earnings, it simply reduces variance and smooths out a miners income. The exception is when a block is not found during a given difficulty increment, right now our luck is not great, and this may prove to be the case, however the only thing I know about luck is that it's bound to change....

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Well put. I was going to say about the same, but changed my mind because I could not put it so eloquently.

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February 18, 2017, 11:08:26 AM
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On another note; Veqtrus, or anyone working on this as well... Is it safe to run Segwit versions with p2pool at this time?  The PR for Segwit seems to be handling pretty well, I just want to confirm it is safe or okay to use with the pool at this time Smiley

Before activation my PR is compatible with older nodes. It doesn't accept segwit transactions in shares and the only extra check it does before activation (block weight instead of size limit) is exactly the same for non-segwit transactions.

BTW while we are at it, it would be possible to combine the segwit change with the ability to specify a P2SH address for payout. Are people interested in that? Or should we wait and update once segwit addresses are used?

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February 18, 2017, 01:19:24 PM
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BTW while we are at it, it would be possible to combine the segwit change with the ability to specify a P2SH address for payout. Are people interested in that? Or should we wait and update once segwit addresses are used?
You are assuming that segwit is going to happen. If it does, I do not see it happening any time soon.

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