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October 06, 2011, 06:37:07 PM
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That's PSJ.

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October 06, 2011, 09:54:53 PM
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That's PSJ.

In particular, PoolServerJ doesn't support X-Roll-NTime and so miners will go idle when they don't get a super prompt response from the pool for a new work unit.  With X-Roll-NTime, miners are able to keep mining while waiting for getwork responses (by continuing to increment the ntime header).

Best advice for now is to point your miner at server 2 which is less loaded and will response more promptly (at least until someone adds ntime rolling to PSJ).

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October 07, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
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That's PSJ.

In particular, PoolServerJ doesn't support X-Roll-NTime and so miners will go idle when they don't get a super prompt response from the pool for a new work unit.  With X-Roll-NTime, miners are able to keep mining while waiting for getwork responses (by continuing to increment the ntime header).

Best advice for now is to point your miner at server 2 which is less loaded and will response more promptly (at least until someone adds ntime rolling to PSJ).

How big of a job is it to do the work to PSJ? I know nothing about programming, but PSJ has been treating me real well over here, and I would contribute some btc towards it. What kind of pricetag do you think the work holds? Maybe we can scrape together the coin to get shads on it.
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October 07, 2011, 12:28:42 AM
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The current status of nrolltime and noncerange  is that it's partly implemented and has been that way for quite a while.  I never really made it a priority for a couple of reasons.  1/ it wasn't really an agreed standard and at the time I first looked at it few miners supported it 2/ it involved some non-trivial overhead that didn't have a payoff until the majority of miners supported. 3/ it was below the threshold of 'needed'.  i.e. miners not being able to get work fast enough shouldn't be happening.

That last statement probably sounds a bit bold in the face of the above evidence however I believe in this case nrolltime would simply be serving to mask another problem.  BT has already said he's got maxed CPU load which indicates another problem with PSJ and would explain the slow getwork responses.  Given what's been proven elsewhere with minimal CPU load I'd say it's some obscure config issue and I'll work with BT to find out what that is ASAP.

Having said that I'm not writing off rolllntime and noncerange, it does introduce efficiencies and now that it's more widely supported the upside probably exceeds the downside.  But I think the time when it's absence is going to be problem for miners is quite a way off so I'm not in a hurry while there's more pressing issues to deal with.

If my take on it is wrong and ppl really do want it treated as a priority then by all means make some noise about it.

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October 07, 2011, 12:59:32 AM
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I think folks need to understand that the pool is closing in on 1 TH which makes it 4th biggest pool out there.  So of course there's load issues.  And you know what?  BT has done a kick ass job getting things to where they are already.  All the time paying money out of pocket or just barely breaking even just to keep the server(s) working.  You want better performance, well, put your money where your mouth is.  

Other than a few day bump in donations a week back, just about the entire time I've been with the pool the weighted donation average has hovered around .5%.  That's ridiculous if you ask me.  I don't want to sound like a jerk, but c'mon already, give BT some motivation to work on the pool or add new hardware as needed.  Bump your donations to a percent or two.

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October 07, 2011, 05:44:13 PM
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This pool rules all other pools out there. Period. As for person getting queue waiting with pheonix, Switch to CGMiner 2.0 +, its a far more efficent miner and ALOT more configuarable (multiple pools if 1 goes down for example).

As if its the 4th biggest, although im not suprised tbh. 5*
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October 07, 2011, 09:04:31 PM
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I suppose I could start logging output from mining on ars, but from glancing at the screen here and there I haven't actually seen idles.  I have server2 as my main and the regular server as my first failover.  The balance on my second failover is very small(in the last 24 hrs a whopping 0.00049btc has been credited to it) so it's pretty rare that I am not able to get work from ars.
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October 09, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
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Now mining here. Seems pretty stable.

Subscribing to this thread Smiley

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October 10, 2011, 12:44:49 AM
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Any plans to support merged BTC/NMC mining?
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October 10, 2011, 03:49:35 PM
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Ok ya'll. BT has got the entire pool down to .57% stales because of his work to get poolserverj up and running on both servers. If nothing else, put your donation % at your normal rate + the % he is saving you on stales by getting the new server technology up and running!

And obviously that couldn't be done without shadders writing PoolServerJ to begin with.

Therefore, I propose the following.

The last full UTC day (October 3rd), 2.85 BTC were donated on ArsBitcoin.  This is about what it costs to run ArsBitcoin on a daily basis (perhaps a tiny bit less) with the current exchange rates and server setup.

Any donations over 2.85 BTC per day, through Oct 7th (UTC) will be sent to shadders to help support his PoolServerJ efforts.

So, that is about 3.5 days to increase your donations and help him out!

As an example, lets say Oct 4th ends and the total donations come out to be 3.5 BTC.  That means I would send 3.5 - 2.85 =  0.65 BTC to shadders for the day, along with the excess for the next 3 days as well.

Oh, and October 8th is my birthday.  Just saying... Wink you could increase your donations that day too or something Tongue

Alright, so not great results for Shadders, most likely because no one knew about this Wink

"donate_amount";"date"
"3.7125716460477127";"2011-10-10"
"5.845001067834805";"2011-10-09"
"3.3776687214636683";"2011-10-08"
"3.260313908017318";"2011-10-07"
"3.0306043955643625";"2011-10-06"
"2.851349150199118";"2011-10-05"
"2.7467903676281";"2011-10-04"
"2.850080288336016";"2011-10-03"



This results in only 0.59 BTC, heh.  So... I will send off a 5.59 BTC donation to shadders so that he at least gets something.

On more positive notes, check out the last few days!  Barcode (l1l1l1l1l1l1l1l1l1ll1111l1l11 or whatever Tongue) has been donating at 20% (maybe more, but I was away most of the weekend.)  He is now the top donor on the charts! https://arsbitcoin.com/statsDonate.php

Thanks!


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October 10, 2011, 04:28:29 PM
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Ok ya'll. BT has got the entire pool down to .57% stales because of his work to get poolserverj up and running on both servers. If nothing else, put your donation % at your normal rate + the % he is saving you on stales by getting the new server technology up and running!

And obviously that couldn't be done without shadders writing PoolServerJ to begin with.

Therefore, I propose the following.

The last full UTC day (October 3rd), 2.85 BTC were donated on ArsBitcoin.  This is about what it costs to run ArsBitcoin on a daily basis (perhaps a tiny bit less) with the current exchange rates and server setup.

Any donations over 2.85 BTC per day, through Oct 7th (UTC) will be sent to shadders to help support his PoolServerJ efforts.

So, that is about 3.5 days to increase your donations and help him out!

As an example, lets say Oct 4th ends and the total donations come out to be 3.5 BTC.  That means I would send 3.5 - 2.85 =  0.65 BTC to shadders for the day, along with the excess for the next 3 days as well.

Oh, and October 8th is my birthday.  Just saying... Wink you could increase your donations that day too or something Tongue

Alright, so not great results for Shadders, most likely because no one knew about this Wink

"donate_amount";"date"
"3.7125716460477127";"2011-10-10"
"5.845001067834805";"2011-10-09"
"3.3776687214636683";"2011-10-08"
"3.260313908017318";"2011-10-07"
"3.0306043955643625";"2011-10-06"
"2.851349150199118";"2011-10-05"
"2.7467903676281";"2011-10-04"
"2.850080288336016";"2011-10-03"



This results in only 0.59 BTC, heh.  So... I will send off a 5.59 BTC donation to shadders so that he at least gets something.

On more positive notes, check out the last few days!  Barcode (l1l1l1l1l1l1l1l1l1ll1111l1l11 or whatever Tongue) has been donating at 20% (maybe more, but I was away most of the weekend.)  He is now the top donor on the charts! https://arsbitcoin.com/statsDonate.php

Thanks!



Damn, I never even saw that message. Now I feel all bad. Happy Birthday! Better late than never, right?
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October 11, 2011, 11:54:43 PM
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Any word on merged mining?
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October 12, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
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Any word on merged mining?
Eligius has it.

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October 12, 2011, 12:10:43 AM
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Any word on merged mining?
Eligius has it.

Have no doubt; I can read. Grin I was asking BurningToad about plans to implement it on Ars. He should at least be nabbing it to cover server costs, even if he takes a while to figure out distribution. I think everyone would be cool with that.

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October 12, 2011, 08:50:13 AM
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server2 seems to be having connectivity issues right now. Continuous idles and reconnects for a while now. Just noticed it's rate down to 86GH/s on the stats page...

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October 12, 2011, 09:13:42 AM
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server2 seems to be having connectivity issues right now. Continuous idles and reconnects for a while now. Just noticed it's rate down to 86GH/s on the stats page...

Use CGMiner and you can add 'falllover' servers, so it goes to server 1 and if ARD fails completly, i backup to bitcoin LC, which is basically hardly ever Smiley
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October 12, 2011, 12:56:39 PM
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got started here last night.

stales are sooo much lower!

proxifier has me mining here at work, so im good to go!

~900mh/s coming your way!

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October 12, 2011, 01:27:31 PM
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server2 seems to be having connectivity issues right now. Continuous idles and reconnects for a while now. Just noticed it's rate down to 86GH/s on the stats page...

Use CGMiner and you can add 'falllover' servers, so it goes to server 1 and if ARD fails completly, i backup to bitcoin LC, which is basically hardly ever Smiley
I should give that a try but I just haven't got around to it. Anyway, after I dug a bit more I found that even pings to google were losing 50% of the packets so I think it wasn't the server or my end, just some backbone issues somewhere. It's seems to be stable again now.

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October 12, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
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do you guys offer mining on port 80?

gotta work around the firewall here at the office   Grin

No, we don't support this at the moment.  I haven't looked into setting it up yet.

Any news about it?
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October 12, 2011, 03:06:20 PM
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do you guys offer mining on port 80?

gotta work around the firewall here at the office   Grin

No, we don't support this at the moment.  I haven't looked into setting it up yet.

Any news about it?

You can mine on port 80 with server2.arsbitcoin.com
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