Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[ticmmae]

Phil you're awesome!

I have some of those motherboards on the way, also I have a z170 with 4 PICEx16 - spacing is going to be tight for a 4 card 1080TI no riser but I'm going to run it just to see how long it can go. Should get here monday.

My new bottleneck - these stupid Corsair 750's only have 2... TWO! 4+4/6+1 power ports. The Rosewill 850w you suggested does have 4 PCIE power lines, so I just need  to get some more cables that have 2 sets of 6+2's in them, I ran out. I upgraded a dozen 1070's to 1080Ti's today - hardware always takes longer than you expect. Was expecting to unscrew, unplug, swap and be done. The power cords threw me for a huge loop.


I was thinking about running power from my 1500w EVGA but I actually don't have long enough cables for that either.

So back to the drawing board.

the gigabyte board will do 3  with no risers.   1080ti 1080 ti 1070 mini

here are two builds on the biostar z170
3 with no risers 1080ti 1080 ti 1070

https://i.imgur.com/dg0TGrW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0YKAiAO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Vyc6l9f.jpg

Phil, appreciate all the effort and time you put in to share your knowledge.

Almost pulling the trigger on my first build, shopping list if you can see if I am forgetting anything:
-2x MSI 1080ti FE

-1x Zotac 1070 Mini   I have switched this out to this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137092

-1x EVGA 850w Gold
-1x Gigabyte GA-Z270P
-1x Intel G4400 Skylake
-1x Crucial 4GB DDR Ram
-1x ADATA 128GB SSD

Puts the tab around $2.1k from Newegg, little more than your parts list from another thread where you were at 1950 or so.

note the msi aero   is shorter then the zotac  I switched to it.

Any suggestion for which 1080ti to go if they are all same priced?

the blower style  msi aero  is better then the  founder edition

if you get a deal on the  evga founder edition  they have top notch  rma service.

the gigabyte z270  can do  add-ons with  risers  

 I ran as many as five so far.  3 with the slots and 2 with risers.

I just two 15 dollar  coupons from ebay today
so I grabbed

https://i.imgur.com/orNyrvP.png


two accounts one is mine one is the wifes
the mobo can do 3 riser less and in the winter I can add cards
https://i.imgur.com/In7wZBm.png

this is a 200 dollar cpu for 130 six months to pay it. no payments or interest
It can be sold back for 150 easy on ebay and will not drop in price for around 2 years.
https://i.imgur.com/LkRcnYC.png

Thanks for the coupon.

So for now, I am planning to get:
gigabyte z270p
2 x EVGA 1080 ti
MSI Aero GTX 1070 ITX 8G OC
EVGA G3 1000W PSU

My question now is, how many more cards will I be able to add via risers with this PSU? I would like to add up 2 or 3 more in the future. Also, do you have any other 1070 models you would suggest for risers since the space wouldnt be a issue for those?

[philipma1957]

Phil you're awesome!

I have some of those motherboards on the way, also I have a z170 with 4 PICEx16 - spacing is going to be tight for a 4 card 1080TI no riser but I'm going to run it just to see how long it can go. Should get here monday.

My new bottleneck - these stupid Corsair 750's only have 2... TWO! 4+4/6+1 power ports. The Rosewill 850w you suggested does have 4 PCIE power lines, so I just need  to get some more cables that have 2 sets of 6+2's in them, I ran out. I upgraded a dozen 1070's to 1080Ti's today - hardware always takes longer than you expect. Was expecting to unscrew, unplug, swap and be done. The power cords threw me for a huge loop.


I was thinking about running power from my 1500w EVGA but I actually don't have long enough cables for that either.

So back to the drawing board.

the gigabyte board will do 3  with no risers.   1080ti 1080 ti 1070 mini

here are two builds on the biostar z170
3 with no risers 1080ti 1080 ti 1070

Phil, appreciate all the effort and time you put in to share your knowledge.

Almost pulling the trigger on my first build, shopping list if you can see if I am forgetting anything:
-2x MSI 1080ti FE

-1x Zotac 1070 Mini   I have switched this out to this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137092

-1x EVGA 850w Gold
-1x Gigabyte GA-Z270P
-1x Intel G4400 Skylake
-1x Crucial 4GB DDR Ram
-1x ADATA 128GB SSD

Puts the tab around $2.1k from Newegg, little more than your parts list from another thread where you were at 1950 or so.

note the msi aero   is shorter then the zotac  I switched to it.

Any suggestion for which 1080ti to go if they are all same priced?

the blower style  msi aero  is better then the  founder edition

if you get a deal on the  evga founder edition  they have top notch  rma service.

the gigabyte z270  can do  add-ons with  risers  

 I ran as many as five so far.  3 with the slots and 2 with risers.

I just two 15 dollar  coupons from ebay today
so I grabbed




two accounts one is mine one is the wifes
the mobo can do 3 riser less and in the winter I can add cards


this is a 200 dollar cpu for 130 six months to pay it. no payments or interest
It can be sold back for 150 easy on ebay and will not drop in price for around 2 years.

Thanks for the coupon.

So for now, I am planning to get:
gigabyte z270p
2 x EVGA 1080 ti
MSI Aero GTX 1070 ITX 8G OC
EVGA G3 1000W PSU

My question now is, how many more cards will I be able to add via risers with this PSU? I would like to add up 2 or 3 more in the future. Also, do you have any other 1070 models you would suggest for risers since the space wouldnt be a issue for those?

zotac mini


https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Compact-Graphics-ZT-P10700G-10M/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/ref=sr_1_1?

at this price order today  and wait

or http://www.provantage.com/msi-gtx1070aero8goc~7MST92EW.htm

and it ships fast

always check other places for better price

 this psu


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438096


will do 5 cards.  if 2 are 1080 ti  and 3 are 1070    set tdp at 70%

the 1080ti are 250 watt x 2 = 500 watt max set at 70% = 350 watts.

the 1070 are  150 watt x 3 = 450 watt max set at 70% = 315 watts.

that is 615 of 1000  add 85 for other parts = 700 of 1000

[ticmmae]

zotac mini


https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Compact-Graphics-ZT-P10700G-10M/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/ref=sr_1_1?

at this price order today  and wait

or http://www.provantage.com/msi-gtx1070aero8goc~7MST92EW.htm

and it ships fast

always check other places for better price

 this psu


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438096


will do 5 cards.  if 2 are 1080 ti  and 3 are 1070    set tdp at 70%

the 1080ti are 250 watt x 2 = 500 watt max set at 70% = 350 watts.

the 1070 are  150 watt x 3 = 450 watt max set at 70% = 315 watts.

that is 615 of 1000  add 85 for other parts = 700 of 1000

Thank you.   I will let you know how this goes!

[philipma1957]

No more pm's or emails for advice will be answered.  Just too much volume  on rig advice.

Too many people looking to riff off the designs here.  Note riff    not rip off

No one  offers  a tip  I am not  asking for that.

I have answered 10 emails and 80 pms in the last week on how to tinker the designs here.

I don't mind answering here.

Ask on the thread.  I will try to answer.

[VoskCoin]

No more pm's or emails for advice will be answered.  Just too much volume  on rig advice.

Too many people looking to riff off the designs here.  Note riff    not rip off

No one  offers  a tip  I am not  asking for that.

I have answered 10 emails and 80 pms in the last week on how to tinker the designs here.

I don't mind answering here.

Ask on the thread.  I will try to answer.

Phil I will try to make a video on the setup soon if you'd like to help alleviate some of that, I really appreciate the help & advice you've given me

[philipma1957]

No more pm's or emails for advice will be answered.  Just too much volume  on rig advice.

Too many people looking to riff off the designs here.  Note riff    not rip off

No one  offers  a tip  I am not  asking for that.

I have answered 10 emails and 80 pms in the last week on how to tinker the designs here.

I don't mind answering here.

Ask on the thread.  I will try to answer.

Phil I will try to make a video on the setup soon if you'd like to help alleviate some of that, I really appreciate the help & advice you've given me

yes that would help.

I will be doing the give away thread  picks will start in about 4-5 days.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1932641.0

it takes time to run that.  and time to run this and time to do test builds

so any little bit helps.

[VyprBTC]

Phil, WTF, check your PM's and your emails. I also text messaged and tried to facetime you. And skyped you. You didn't answer any of them yet. Hurry up!



Man I've been back and forth to Best Buy and the local shop all day today, grabbed 3 motherboards, only 1 worked but only slots 1 & 2 GPU's work, slot 3 doesn't work so it's a 2 card rig for now.

The other 2 boards I'm taking back right now. Going to get some more boards to play with and hope they work.

All this really does take up a ton of time. lol

[philipma1957]

Phil, WTF, check your PM's and your emails. I also text messaged and tried to facetime you. And skyped you. You didn't answer any of them yet. Hurry up!



Man I've been back and forth to Best Buy and the local shop all day today, grabbed 3 motherboards, only 1 worked but only slots 1 & 2 GPU's work, slot 3 doesn't work so it's a 2 card rig for now.

The other 2 boards I'm taking back right now. Going to get some more boards to play with and hope they work.

All this really does take up a ton of time. lol

You got me to smile.

I switched off skein and am doing Zec via nicehash.

Runs a bit cooler.

Still does not earn as much as skein.

But I jump to Zec one or two days each week.

[VyprBTC]

Phil, WTF, check your PM's and your emails. I also text messaged and tried to facetime you. And skyped you. You didn't answer any of them yet. Hurry up!



Man I've been back and forth to Best Buy and the local shop all day today, grabbed 3 motherboards, only 1 worked but only slots 1 & 2 GPU's work, slot 3 doesn't work so it's a 2 card rig for now.

The other 2 boards I'm taking back right now. Going to get some more boards to play with and hope they work.

All this really does take up a ton of time. lol

You got me to smile.

I switched off skein and am doing Zec via nicehash.

Runs a bit cooler.

Still does not earn as much as skein.

But I jump to Zec one or two days each week.

Smart - for the past 3 hours Skein earnings are zero - it's basically flatlined, how that is possible I have no idea. Maybe the graph is messed up or something but i don't know how my earnings are going sideways and not up lol.

Guess I'll swap it over to Zec myself.

[BLife]

Smart - for the past 3 hours Skein earnings are zero - it's basically flatlined, how that is possible I have no idea. Maybe the graph is messed up or something but i don't know how my earnings are going sideways and not up lol.

Guess I'll swap it over to Zec myself.

same here, I too noticed that for about an hour there is no earnings, though the hash is being registered, I guess there might be a problem with reward distribution.
I mine at zpool.ca though.

Regards,
BLife

[Liquid71]

Phil do you have a preference in brand for the 1070 or is it just price?

[konqueror]

Phil, what is your advice? I have to choose between this GB models:


AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11G
GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G


http://www.gigabyte.com/Comparison/Result/3?pids=6275,6262

The difference in the prices is about $43. Do you think the higher core clock and the better(is it really better) cooler cost $43?

[philipma1957]

@ konqueror

I only have owned the bigger aorus  I don't like it due to fat size and two 8 pin connectors.
Also it does not play well with others it will not run on the same clocks as the msi aero  or founders edition.
So if I want a rig with 1080ti's  I would need all aorus.
In my case it would not be a good card for me. So I only purchased the one.

As long as returns are easy I would get the white one , but as I said I never owned the white one  so my opinion is truly half assed as I only have 1/2 the proper info.

Phil do you have a preference in brand for the 1070 or is it just price?

So far  all my 1070's have been good.  the first 3 are specialty

 katana        a 1 slot card.  
    http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-GeForce-GTX-1070-KATANA_p_130.html


gigabyte itx a short card
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-1070-DirectX-12-GV-N1070IXOC-8GD-8GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Expr/291855827823?

msi aero itx a short card
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1070-DirectX-12-GTX-1070-AERO-ITX-8G-OC-8GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Ex-/302249053149?

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Msi GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GTX 1070 GAMING
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1070-DirectX-12-GTX-1070-GAMING-X-8G-8GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Expre-/381686376593?

Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1070 STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ROG-GeForce-GTX-1070-STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING-8GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-/302013028773?


The ones above all work fine.
For me  how I want to use a card  is what matters. Note this is  for 1070's .
All my builds from now on will be this idea
So this means  
the gigabyte itx or the msi aero itx   and I will use the cheapest and fastest to get to my house

[BLife]

Phil, what is your advice? I have to choose between this GB models:


AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11G
GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G


http://www.gigabyte.com/Comparison/Result/3?pids=6275,6262

The difference in the prices is about $43. Do you think the higher core clock and the better(is it really better) cooler cost $43?

I have around 6 Aorus and from my experience I would say, when you build your rig please leave ample space between the cards(add a high cfm fan pushing air from the front), and I recently go the extreme edition of it and the huge copper place dispenses a lot of heat, keeping the card cool but if you place the next gpu nearby that heat is sucked into it creating a chain effect.

Hope this helps

Regards,
BLife

[philipma1957]

Phil, what is your advice? I have to choose between this GB models:


AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11G
GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G


http://www.gigabyte.com/Comparison/Result/3?pids=6275,6262

The difference in the prices is about $43. Do you think the higher core clock and the better(is it really better) cooler cost $43?

I have around 6 Aorus and from my experience I would say, when you build your rig please leave ample space between the cards(add a high cfm fan pushing air from the front), and I recently go the extreme edition of it and the huge copper place dispenses a lot of heat, keeping the card cool but if you place the next gpu nearby that heat is sucked into it creating a chain effect.

Hope this helps

Regards,
BLife

yeah I had the issue of it passing heat to the next gpu. So if you go riser route here  are links for very good long usb 3.0 cables

This allowed me to space the card further away

3 ft vs 2 foot
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HEPM6L4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?

4 ft
https://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-USB-3-0-Cable-SuperSpeed/dp/B00D8JFNO8/ref=sr_1_1?


you will get  enough space with the longer cables.  This was another reason for me to pass on more aorus my space is small for the rigs.

[ivanst776]

philipma1957, have you ever tried to have multiple type of GPUs in the same motherboard?

I'm having issues with 4x XFX 470, MSI 470 and Saphire 570. The issue is with drivers and the windows is not accepting them in the Device manager!

When I connect the MSI and 570 the windows doesn't get logged in, but I get only black screen sometimes and sometimes it just freezes at Welcome.

[philipma1957]

philipma1957, have you ever tried to have multiple type of GPUs in the same motherboard?

Yes  and it can work fine or not.


The aorus 1080ti  is clocked high to start  so on msi afterburner if I set its core at 250 it crashes
the msi aero 1080 ti  is clocked lower to start so on msi afterburner if I set its core to 250 it works.

So If I mix the two above I can not check the synch box for settings and clock core at 250
I can synch at 160 as my aorus likes a core of 160  but this makes the hash on the msi aero pretty low.
So I don't check synch and do 2 different settings  for the 2x 1080 ti's









this is one example  of 2 like and 1 different.


 

and 2 like and 2 different

[TheYankeesWin!]

Phil  If  I remember  that 1 slot Katana was hard to keep cool.

[BLife]

philip sorry to derail this thread, here you mentioned that you might build an enclosure for the rigs, and you pointed to radiator fans, I was browsing this forum and came across a post by MarkAz, that those fans may be not good enough here so if you do go ahead, please be careful.

I too was looking for an alternative, but no luck so far

Regards,
BLife

[ivanst776]

philipma1957, have you ever tried to have multiple type of GPUs in the same motherboard?

Yes  and it can work fine or not.


The aorus 1080ti  is clocked high to start  so on msi afterburner if I set its core at 250 it crashes
the msi aero 1080 ti  is clocked lower to start so on msi afterburner if I set its core to 250 it works.

So If I mix the two above I can not check the synch box for settings and clock core at 250
I can synch at 160 as my aorus likes a core of 160  but this makes the hash on the msi aero pretty low.
So I don't check synch and do 2 different settings  for the 2x 1080 ti's

this is one example  of 2 like and 1 different.
IMG
and 2 like and 2 different
IMG

When I see these rigs this motivates me, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with my Rig, If it put only 3 GPUs (3x XFX RX 470) it works well, sometimes i get only 4MH/s on GPU 0 (dont know why)

But still when I put a different type of GPU, in the Claymore I get red text and it exits, when I go to Manage Devices I see a yellow warning on 2-3 graphics and that's the error 43 which tells me to remove them or install the drivers, i tried with a patch then restart it works only for that GPU not for others.