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June 23, 2023, 11:53:46 PM
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Arsenal and Manchester City both have full agreements with West Ham. I think the  ball is now in Declan's Rice court. But since this Declan Rice transfer meltdown of yesterday;

-Edu has posted himself flexing.

-Relaible news outlets are still saying that Arsenal are Rice's favourite.

-The rumoured Manchester City's bid has remained a rumour.


Maybe Arsenal will be getting this player after all, but then its Arsenal.

Arsenal leaded the race for a long time for Declan Rice but now Man City just swooped in and made things complicated. West Ham now can ask for more cash and i think they will do that. Maybe Man City is just messing with Arsenal but now the player can go either way and if i was Rice i would go to City and win trophies


This is really making things more difficult for Arsenal. Manchester City were actually watching this situation from a distance. They weren't planning to make an official offer for Rice as long as the player doesn't show any intention to go there. However it looks like they have changed their mind then.

Manchester City's intervening should be affecting Rice's decision seriously. I don't know how often he would be in the starting eleven there. But I feel sure that he would play for a longer time at Arsenal. But on the other hand the situation of winning many titles with Manchester City can outweigh that.

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June 23, 2023, 11:55:51 PM
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Arsenal leaded the race for a long time for Declan Rice but now Man City just swooped in and made things complicated. West Ham now can ask for more cash and i think they will do that. Maybe Man City is just messing with Arsenal but now the player can go either way and if i was Rice i would go to City and win trophies

Going to City to win trophies is not all there is to football. It's not that simple. Manchester City has Rodri who is the best DM in the world right now and he's not old and is not slowing down anytime soon. Only Kimmich can be compared to Rodri right now in terms of the best defensive midfielders, and even Kimmich is not a single-pivot midfielder.
Rice can go to City but it's a certainty that he would be a bench player. I don't care how good he is, he's not benching Rodri, not while Pep is the coach, and while Pep is the coach. A double-pivot midfield with two natural single pivot is not ideal.
In Arsenal, Rice would be an undisputed starter and will develop into whatever he wants, He's still young and can always leave Arsenal for another team in the future.

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June 24, 2023, 01:17:03 AM
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A few hours ago there were 3 players whose transfer status was confirmed and had reached an agreement with their new club.

The first is Ruben Neves, who signed a contract with Al-Hilal for a transfer fee of 55 million euros from Wolves. The duration of his contract will also last until June 2026. Surely this will be one of the pros and cons of the transfer because at the ripe age of 26 he has decided to play for the Saudi league team, even though there were rumors that Barcelona were interested in signing him, but it came back again. it seems Ruben Neves is more concerned with money than his career in Europe.

The second is Justin Kluivert, as we all know he is an AS Roma player and Bournemouth have just managed to get his services to strengthen the team in the EPL next season. I think this is a career decline at a fairly young age, even though previously he had also defended quite strong teams in Europe such as Ajax, Leipzig, Valencia and Roma before finally now with the weak Bournemouth team. I hope he can come back to a better team when his contract ends.

The third is Sergio Bosquest who joined Inter Miami as a free agent and this will be his reunion with Leo Messi in MLS. Unexpectedly after leaving Barcelona at the end of the season Sergio Bosquest has finally followed in the footsteps of his former Barcelona colleague and this will be a new journey for both of them to enjoy football in America. I don't think there's anything stopping Sergio Bosquest from staying in Europe because he won those titles while with Barcelona.

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June 24, 2023, 01:24:29 AM
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Mbappe was playing in PSG and was the superstar is this team, he even tried to say he is better than other players like he was really a selfish player in his team. But if he leaves PSG and joins Real Madrid for the next season he will have players like Vinicius in this team and many other talented players which can be challenging for Mbappe.
wouldn't that be the best experience for Mbappe because he can meet other reliable players at Real Madrid?
I thought Mbappe at PSG was not that selfish but I saw this selfishness in Messi who left PSG. compared to Messi I think Mbappe is better and doesn't have any selfishness and if Mbappe really can join Real Madrid I'm sure Mbappe will be even stronger because he will compete with his senior players.

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June 24, 2023, 01:44:13 AM
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I just love the condition Mbappe kept PSG at the moment after all they are just domestic Champions, the PSG board have seen it that if they allow him to wait till his current contract expires he'll become a free agent and they'd be on the losing end with Mbappe not signing a new contract and if he stays the ball is still not on there court, they'll be losing so is best to let him go. But to me I still feel Mbappe needs to learn much more discipline before going to Madrid because the way and manner he displayed at PSG isn't good to take to Madrid, that's to say his behavior might corrupt the younger ones at Madrid.
Well anything can happen like a change of behavior but if this deal pull through then let the whole of la Liga be aware of the damage Madrid is come with next season even in the UCL.
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June 24, 2023, 01:49:13 AM
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Arsenal leaded the race for a long time for Declan Rice but now Man City just swooped in and made things complicated. West Ham now can ask for more cash and i think they will do that. Maybe Man City is just messing with Arsenal but now the player can go either way and if i was Rice i would go to City and win trophies

Going to City to win trophies is not all there is to football. It's not that simple. Manchester City has Rodri who is the best DM in the world right now and he's not old and is not slowing down anytime soon. Only Kimmich can be compared to Rodri right now in terms of the best defensive midfielders, and even Kimmich is not a single-pivot midfielder.
Rice can go to City but it's a certainty that he would be a bench player. I don't care how good he is, he's not benching Rodri, not while Pep is the coach, and while Pep is the coach. A double-pivot midfield with two natural single pivot is not ideal.
In Arsenal, Rice would be an undisputed starter and will develop into whatever he wants, He's still young and can always leave Arsenal for another team in the future.

Exactly my Opinion Yesterday, Declan Rice would be a better player and play for complete 90 minutes when he picks Arsenal over Manchester City, it's every players dream to work with Pep Guardiola but I'll consider him blind if he sides with City.
And with Manchester City playing double-pivot midfielder's, they'll turn and change shape and movements, from a more attacking side to a defensive side which is completely different from what Pep Guardiola plays.

Declan Rice should be wise, he'll flourish at Arsenal, and with Thomas Partey leaving, It's certain he's the number one Defensive midfielder option.

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June 24, 2023, 02:20:58 AM
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The first is Ruben Neves, who signed a contract with Al-Hilal for a transfer fee of 55 million euros from Wolves. The duration of his contract will also last until June 2026. Surely this will be one of the pros and cons of the transfer because at the ripe age of 26 he has decided to play for the Saudi league team, even though there were rumors that Barcelona were interested in signing him, but it came back again. it seems Ruben Neves is more concerned with money than his career in Europe.

This is one of the best signings done by a Saudi Club. Ruben Neves had so many prosperous career options in Europe but he chose to move to the developing Saudi League. The player is young and has the strength to add the needed vigor and entertainment. He will never tell the public that money was the reason for the move. This move is an indication that the Saudi professional league is growing to become a force in the world. His move might also motivate more players to take the same path.

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The second is Justin Kluivert, as we all know he is an AS Roma player and Bournemouth have just managed to get his services to strengthen the team in the EPL next season. I think this is a career decline at a fairly young age, even though previously he had also defended quite strong teams in Europe such as Ajax, Leipzig, Valencia and Roma before finally now with the weak Bournemouth team. I hope he can come back to a better team when his contract ends.

I expect this move to England will resurrect the career of Justin Kluivert. Being the son of one of the best strikers in Europe Patrick Kluivert, much is expected from him. He moved to Roma but couldn't make much impact so he was loaned to Leipzig and Nice. Andoni Iraola the coach of the newly promoted Bournemouth believes that the young Dutch striker will add quality to the attack because he is experienced and has pace. His father's time playing for Newcastle United was not impactful because of his age but hopefully, the younger Kluivert will do more.



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June 24, 2023, 03:20:38 AM
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I thought Mbappe at PSG was not that selfish but I saw this selfishness in Messi who left PSG. compared to Messi I think Mbappe is better and doesn't have any selfishness and if Mbappe really can join Real Madrid I'm sure Mbappe will be even stronger because he will compete with his senior players.
Mbappe will be joining in real madrid with free agent. Real madrid only wants him with free agent. Remember this. Who the heck club will pay more than 200m pounds to get him from PSG? If this price was real and it must be so stupid. It's better waiting for mbappe to leave from PSG with free agent rather than try to buy him from PSG with non sense price. Joining in madrid is an easy task for him as long as he will able to leave from PSG with free agent.

Perez will not even try to waste 200m pounds to get him from PSG. It sounds non sense to buy mbappe with non sense price.
He has only 1 year left in PSG and is it worth 200m pounds? Even 100m pounds is still non sense price for madrid. Over rated and over priced player.

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June 24, 2023, 04:01:25 AM
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Mbappe will be joining in real madrid with free agent. Real madrid only wants him with free agent. Remember this. Who the heck club will pay more than 200m pounds to get him from PSG? If this price was real and it must be so stupid. It's better waiting for mbappe to leave from PSG with free agent rather than try to buy him from PSG with non sense price. Joining in madrid is an easy task for him as long as he will able to leave from PSG with free agent.
That's right, the only way Real Madrid wants Mbappe is to be patient waiting until his contract expires with PSG. Don't rush because now PSG are in trouble, they don't want Mbappe to leave as a free agent because it would be very detrimental and now they are busy looking for ways to sell him before his contract expires. There's nothing that PSG can hope for except to sell him now while it's still worth it because it will indirectly reduce the loss a little on his departure. Real Madrid will always be waiting for his arrival as Ancelotti needed a candidate of world-class quality to fill the void at the club following Benzema's departure and they were open from the start.

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Exactly my Opinion Yesterday, Declan Rice would be a better player and play for complete 90 minutes when he picks Arsenal over Manchester City, it's every players dream to work with Pep Guardiola but I'll consider him blind if he sides with City.
And with Manchester City playing double-pivot midfielder's, they'll turn and change shape and movements, from a more attacking side to a defensive side which is completely different from what Pep Guardiola plays.

Declan Rice should be wise, he'll flourish at Arsenal, and with Thomas Partey leaving, It's certain he's the number one Defensive midfielder option.
I would have preferred he join the Gunners, but football is changing; it's no longer about how good you play, but how many trophies you have. Declan Rice may struggle in other clubs because his career has been solely around West Ham United. He gained every piece of respect in the club, from the youth level to the top level, since he worked so hard for it. The Hammers' manager, David Moyes, is open-minded and would like Declan Rice to match the demands of premier teams and to be consistent in his prime next season. The big concern that comes to mind when I see City in the race is whether Pep would jeopardize the player's position and function by converting him.

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June 24, 2023, 05:30:53 AM
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A few hours ago there were 3 players whose transfer status was confirmed and had reached an agreement with their new club.

The first is Ruben Neves, who signed a contract with Al-Hilal for a transfer fee of 55 million euros from Wolves. The duration of his contract will also last until June 2026. Surely this will be one of the pros and cons of the transfer because at the ripe age of 26 he has decided to play for the Saudi league team, even though there were rumors that Barcelona were interested in signing him, but it came back again. it seems Ruben Neves is more concerned with money than his career in Europe.
His transfer fee is the biggest record for his old club Wolves, his decision to go to Arab is questionable because he is still 26 years old still has a long career maybe after his contract is not renewed he will have difficulty finding clubs interested in him in Europe, but it is possible he will end his career in there or will return to play in the league of his country Portugal. However, Al Hilal was lucky to get a player who was quite young and Neves could be said to be good, only his old club was only a mediocre team.
Is the reason because of money? yes, but Barcelona who are reportedly interested in him seem to have difficulty signing players if they have to spend big money, money is always an issue at Barca and I think it will be a few seasons until they can find a solution

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June 24, 2023, 05:43:53 AM
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That's right, the only way Real Madrid wants Mbappe is to be patient waiting until his contract expires with PSG. Don't rush because now PSG are in trouble, they don't want Mbappe to leave as a free agent because it would be very detrimental and now they are busy looking for ways to sell him before his contract expires. There's nothing that PSG can hope for except to sell him now while it's still worth it because it will indirectly reduce the loss a little on his departure. Real Madrid will always be waiting for his arrival as Ancelotti needed a candidate of world-class quality to fill the void at the club following Benzema's departure and they were open from the start.

PSG is now very confusing. PSG was unable to force him to leave from the club. Even though if PSG will be putting him in the market and there's no one interesting to sign him with such price. That's crazy amounts of money.

I will prefer to get at least 5 players with an average price around 40 millions - 50 millions rather than only mbappe. I really support real madrid to get him next season but not for this season.

Mbappe is also very patience waiting for that time to come. PSG is in a dilemma right now.

PSG must be selling him with cheap price to attract madrid to come. Madrid is not interesting anymore to spend more money as it has been used a lot of money for bellingham.

PSG has no choices right now. Selling him with cheap price or keep him for another year but the club will nt get money.

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June 24, 2023, 06:33:31 AM
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Mbappe's hanging statement and his decision that he did not want to automatically extend his one-season contract certainly made PSG panic a little so that this ultatum would definitely be carried out.
Now it is said in some reports that 250-300 million is possible to bring Mbappe along with the bonuses to be paid and of course this is not a real normal price for a player.

On the other hand, the confusion over PSG's future has spread to Napoli as a domino effect in this transfer where it is reported that PSG are ready with 150 million to bring Osimhen from there. Of course this will have a domino effect where when Mbappe does leave, it is certain that there will be another striker who they will immediately bring in at a high price as well.
Regarding with last statement from Mbappe decision, PSG has two option between keep extend him until contract expiry on June 2024 but PSG can't get much money for selling him to other teams. For second option, PSG available earn above 200 until 250 million euro for selling Mbappe but next season PSG without Mbappe and seems bigger lost after leaving by Lionel Messi.

But with how much money earn from Mbappe transfer ability for PSG signing Victor Osimhen from Napoli, I sure excited bid above 150 million make it easy for reach agreement deal with Napoli but all depend with PSG decision, want to extend Mbappe until his contract expiry or sell him before becoming free agent after his contract over.

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June 24, 2023, 07:00:15 AM
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Federico Chiesa is likely to leave Juventus and Italy at the same time. Because Liverpool are trying to sign him on a permanent deal and there are two other teams monitoring him like PSG and Bayern Munich as well. The asking price is said to be like 60 million euros for him. Considering his market value which is 40 million euros the amount Juventus want for him is quite bigger than that.

But Chiesa is a really skilled player. He isn't only a left winger. He can play as right winger or second striker as well when there is a need. He is only 25 now so he must be open to improve his game as well. I don't know whether Juventus is the right place to do this right now.

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Don't underestimate the Saudi Arabian team, now they are willing to pay big money for football stars and that will be a special attraction for players at the end of their careers.
Mohamed Salah is now 31 years old and his performance is declining, especially with Liverpool's performance last season, it is not impossible that he will be tempted by a large fee from the Saudi Arabian team.

If you look at the current Liverpool team, of course, they still really need mistakes, especially after being left by Mane and Ferminho, only their own mistakes are left for their senior strikers, but all of that is the decision of the players.
There would be no questions about Saudi influence and money in soccer but still we have many things which are not possible with these and many players still want to stay here in European clubs for their career and achievements which are not possible in Saudi League they used their first signing Ronaldo as their weapon and now trying their all way for more stars and intention from the soccer world.

Here agreed it's no all about club it's also player who want to stay here or just want millions of $ now Liverpool is also at crucial stage as they already lost their best strikers and if Mohammad Salah also gone then surely they can face disaster in their next season which could be not good for them but most chances Mohammad Salah will not go through with this all.

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June 24, 2023, 08:23:05 AM
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Don't underestimate the Saudi Arabian team, now they are willing to pay big money for football stars and that will be a special attraction for players at the end of their careers.
Mohamed Salah is now 31 years old and his performance is declining, especially with Liverpool's performance last season, it is not impossible that he will be tempted by a large fee from the Saudi Arabian team.

If you look at the current Liverpool team, of course, they still really need mistakes, especially after being left by Mane and Ferminho, only their own mistakes are left for their senior strikers, but all of that is the decision of the players.
There would be no questions about Saudi influence and money in soccer but still we have many things which are not possible with these and many players still want to stay here in European clubs for their career and achievements which are not possible in Saudi League they used their first signing Ronaldo as their weapon and now trying their all way for more stars and intention from the soccer world.

Here agreed it's no all about club it's also player who want to stay here or just want millions of $ now Liverpool is also at crucial stage as they already lost their best strikers and if Mohammad Salah also gone then surely they can face disaster in their next season which could be not good for them but most chances Mohammad Salah will not go through with this all.

But believing in upright character and worthy goals of players is ignorant of the structural consequences the Saudi sports policies entail. When Saudi money keeps rising or even being at the same level, it is so tempting for players to make the decision at younger stages of their career to go to Saudi Arabia unless European clubs raise their salaries as well to make it less painful to reject offers from Saudi Arabia. While 8 million per year were enough a decade ago to keep a 20 years of age player in your club or in your league, this has already drastically changed. Bellingham and even many others ask around 20 million these days. If now the Saudi money opens new doors to new heights at the youngest ages, all the clubs have to disregard their former limits and raise salaries as well. That will make the sport more expensive for everyone and while the Saudis don't care and would subsidize it nationally, European sport becomes more expensive but entails negative consequences also for the fans. There is a a whole new dimension of the business model of transfers and salaries in the making.
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Manchester United is about to make its last offer for Mason Mount which is worth above his market value. But I don't know if Chelsea will be okay with this sum. It doesn't look like there will be an agreement to a new contract between Mount and Chelsea. Pochettino's arrival might change some things about him maybe but there is no guarantee for that. Let's see there is still no deal between two sides then Chelsea would have to let him go for free. I guess Chelsea boss wouldn't like to let this happen.

I think Manchester United's last offer is quite sensible. Mount has grown from Chelsea youth so this will still be a serious profit for them.

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Whether it's a good thing or not, I'm still embarrassed to be able to say good progress because having several players sent to Strasbourg will actually put the risk of injury.
For now the French League is still controlled by PSG and it is difficult for Strasbourg to take over the top position even though several players have been sent from Chelsea.
We know that Chelsea currently doesn't have a dominant player, so it's better for Strasbourg to buy another player with more potential.
Chelsea has extremely big squads at this moment. There's no need to buy the player. Some young talented players from chelsea can be sent to the strasbourg. i do understand the risk of injury but it's quite better rather than always sitting on the bench. My main concern if chelsea may also use strasbourg as a way to keep its unused players too.
Chelsea has very big stake on strasbourg at this moment. That's why many people even called it as chesbourg.
If at this time Chelsea has a very large squad then they should be able to survive in the several leagues that they follow but in fact Chelsea did not have a single chance to have that title.
Yes it is better to use players on the bench but it is risky and could get Chelsea in trouble if they need players on the bench but are still in Strasbourg.
Even though Chelsea has a very big interest in Strasbourg but by doing some risky actions is not the right choice.

Le Racing or Strasbourg haven't had much to be proud of in the French League and I think they need a lot of player transfers which they need to be able to compete with other teams in the French League.
I hope with acquisitions so many stake by chelsea and with the come of new players from chelsea will able to make this club perform even better.
Hopefully what you expect will actually happen but for me it's still the same where you don't have more hope for Strasbourg.

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June 24, 2023, 08:38:43 AM
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Here's a thread of @justinkluivert looking 11/10 in #afcb threads just because...
https://twitter.com/afcbournemouth/status/1672324187514454016

Bournemouth have announced the signing of Justin Kluivert. Justin Kluivert played on loan at Valencia last season. He played 29 games in Laliga and scored 8 goals and made 2 assists. He doesn't have brilliant stats. But he is only 24 years old. And maybe he can do better stats in the Premier League with Bournemouth jersey. The Premier League is a tougher league than other leagues. But Justin Kluivert has a career that deserves this chance. I think Bournemouth made a young and talented signing. And this is a correct transfer policy in my opinion.

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June 24, 2023, 08:55:09 AM
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It seems Mbappe is close to signing his contract with Real Madrid because the PSG owners asked him to extend his contract or they will sell this player this summer they are just forcing Mbappe to sign the contract and this cannot have any good results because in the end even if Mbappe stays in PSG he can't have good performance because he didn't stay there by himself.
If Mbappe can make decisions, of course Mbappe knows how to make decisions that are wise enough to make his career even brighter. Because Mbappe has also been at PSG for a long time and he knows how his career was while he was there, so for now it is an opportunity for Mbappe to make a wise decision if he is still considering his career. After all, Real Madrid is also not a bad team for him even though there are some great players there, but that won't stop Mbappe from developing there if he goes to Real Madrid.
Right now, things are not clear about Mbappé and his decision because if he leaves PSG right now then most chances on current price Real Madrid will not go ahead with this deal because they were thinking he will be joined them as free agent and now PSG management is not going with this plan which is creating mess-up and in current situation most chances any English club can steal this transfer and then Real Madrid has to wait for few more years.

Mbappé understand how to handle this all but with current situation I feel he needs to go ahead with PSG for one or two years extension because he is young and also can do better in few years but need to avoid current situation which is not suitable for having any transfer from this club.

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