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For Bayern this indicates that they have given up on targeting Rice and are looking for new options and when I saw De Jong's name I wasn't really surprised because last season the rumors were still the same. I don't really know the condition of Barcelona's arrears to De Jong now because if you look at the previous mirror he didn't want to leave because Barcelona still has arrears on de Jong's wages that haven't been paid but now I don't see any news about this. On the other hand, De Jong's best friend is still at Bayern, so this could also be of added value now if Barcelona's arrears end and Bayern want to leave. But as you said, this is unlikely because it looks like De Jong is back to being comfortable with his position at Barcelona at the moment.
Bayern will not be signing Frenkie De Jong. Frenkie won't be leaving Barcelona this season. Worst of all for 50 million. He wasn't sold for 80 million, so how can they sell him for less when his value has not dropped? The reason De Jong did not leave Barcelona last summer was not because of his wages that have not been paid. He did want to leave because he wants to remain in Barcelona. He enjoys living and playing in Barcelona. Barcelona wanted to sell De Joong last season because they needed the money and because they wanted to try and sign Bernado Silva, but this season it's different. Barcelona has lost Busquets and in their squad right now only De Jong can play as a DM, plus De Jong was very good last season. But you don't have to forget how the clause from Barcelona was when they tried to sell De Jong to Manchester United with the condition that De Jong's wages were owed by Manchester United at that time This indirectly meant that they wanted to let him go without paying a penny of the arrears he had. Now it is still possible like that when De Jong is wanted by another club he also will not be able to leave because of the arrears that Barcelona has (if any) because De Jong knows Barcelona will let go of responsibility and will give his arrears in salary to his new club. In terms of conditions, this is not too strange because Barcelona is still having financial difficulties, but on the other hand, this is like tying players tightly where they reduce salaries and make arrears but want to try to escape responsibility.
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MODRIC REJECTS A VERY LUCRATIVE DEAL FROM SAUDI ARABIAI saw this tweet from Fabrizio Romano about Luka Modric turning down an offer to play in Saudi Arabia which according to him it's one of the biggest deal ever in football. He's already 37 years old and he should begin to accept reality that he's no more young and energetic. I don't really watch most of Real Madrid matches but I did watch their game against Manchester City in the champions league, and Modric was a shadow of himself in both legs. It is still the player's decision to choose where he wants to ply his trade but I feel he's already a club legend and has won everything he needs to win at Madrid and would have accepted the deal. What do you think guys? Share your thoughts. What a legend. Won't allow himself to be compromised for money. It shows that money isn't his prime motivator. But then again he prolly doesn't need more of it. He prolly has enough to retire and just enjoy life. Anyway what do you guys think of Havertz's possible transfer to Arsenal for 65m GBP? I think it's good that Arsenal is splashing the cash but on Havertz? Don't get me wrong I think he's a good player but 65m GBP for a misfiring striker? I think he had less than 10 goals made last season... But yeah maybe Arteta saw something that we don't. Let's wait and see. And there's some words swirling around that Jorginho could follow him. Dunno... But it does make sense for Chelsea to unload some players.
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Anyway what do you guys think of Havertz's possible transfer to Arsenal for 65m GBP? I think it's good that Arsenal is splashing the cash but on Havertz? Don't get me wrong I think he's a good player but 65m GBP for a misfiring striker? I think he had less than 10 goals made last season... But yeah maybe Arteta saw something that we don't. Let's wait and see.
Kai Havertz has already joined Arsenal, the deal is already complete and Havertz is now an Arsenal player. Personally i'm not really a fan of Kai Havertz and i cannot say what his strengths are as a footballer, but if Arteta wants him and now has him for £65m, we'd see what he plans to do with Havertz and how well he can improve this Arsenal team. And there's some words swirling around that Jorginho could follow him. Dunno... But it does make sense for Chelsea to unload some players.
Jorginho left Chelsea for Arsenal in January, that is about 6 months ago or so.
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I don't think so, Gundogan is no longer young but his performance and quality are still very good and his protection is really needed by the Barcelona team, as we know now the Barcelona team is filled with many young players and they need motivation from senior players and Gundogan is a player who appropriate. Gradually we see Xavi building a much better Barcelona team and for next season I have no doubts after seeing the steps they have taken.
Xavi has a great future for the blaugrana, and incorporating Gundogan makes sense. Signing Gundogan, one of Manchester City's best midfielders, is a terrific deal. The German will relocate to Camp Nou and form strong bonds with his new teammates. He's a quality player, and Xavi Hernandez can guarantee him that he'll have consistent playing time in the team, even if it means putting certain midfielders who are performing efficiently under time constraints. IIkay Gundogan is an experienced footballer who is one of the Premier League's most underappreciated players.
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I don't think so, Gundogan is no longer young but his performance and quality are still very good and his protection is really needed by the Barcelona team, as we know now the Barcelona team is filled with many young players and they need motivation from senior players and Gundogan is a player who appropriate. Gradually we see Xavi building a much better Barcelona team and for next season I have no doubts after seeing the steps they have taken.
Barcelona are simply broke, they cannot spend much on players so they are collecting players free from any contract to lower their spending. Obviously Gundogan is a skilled player that can reinforce the midfield line after Busquets departure. Having seniors and juniors to learn from each others is a perfect thing but we should know that in 2 years there will not be Gundogan nor Lewandowski in Barcelona and they should count on other young players for the future of the team
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Anyway what do you guys think of Havertz's possible transfer to Arsenal for 65m GBP? I think it's good that Arsenal is splashing the cash but on Havertz? Don't get me wrong I think he's a good player but 65m GBP for a misfiring striker? I think he had less than 10 goals made last season... But yeah maybe Arteta saw something that we don't. Let's wait and see.
Kai Havertz has already joined Arsenal, the deal is already complete and Havertz is now an Arsenal player. Personally i'm not really a fan of Kai Havertz and i cannot say what his strengths are as a footballer, but if Arteta wants him and now has him for £65m, we'd see what he plans to do with Havertz and how well he can improve this Arsenal team. It's yet to be seen what Arteta has in store for him but my confusion is why the Gunners keep going for club rejects. A player like Kai Havertz should not be someone any player should intimidated by because someone like to Eddie Nketiah is way better than him but the attacker has stated he's tired of playing second fiddle since Gabriel Jesus came and feels he'd be benched again should Kai be given the No.8 jersey. The way I see it, Kai will be much of a liability than assets just like Maitland Niles was.
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It's yet to be seen what Arteta has in store for him but my confusion is why the Gunners keep going for club rejects. A player like Kai Havertz should not be someone any player should intimidated by because someone like to Eddie Nketiah is way better than him but the attacker has stated he's tired of playing second fiddle since Gabriel Jesus came and feels he'd be benched again should Kai be given the No.8 jersey.
The way I see it, Kai will be much of a liability than assets just like Maitland Niles was.
Maitland Niles and Kai Haverts are different, Niles was came from Arsenal academy while Havertz is come from Chelsea, even though Niles is bad, but Arsenal isn't pay any money to sign him and only pay average salary. You need to know if Arsenal is rarely signing wrong players, you can check on worst transfer of all time made by Arsenal, most of them were signed on ten or twenty years before. I think Havertz might perform in Arsenal because they have better midfielders.
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Leipzig are insistent on not letting him go for less than 100 million euros. Manchester City's latest offer is 90 million. Let's say Leipzig still didn't drop down from that level I wouldn't expect Manchester City to be hesitant to pay 100 million. Imho, that is done deal because Gvardiol really wants to leave this year (he was also a little bit unhappy that when he didn't mobve to Chelsea last season) and I doubt that Leipzig will be able to sell him for much more even if he stays for a year or two. What a legend. Won't allow himself to be compromised for money. It shows that money isn't his prime motivator. But then again he prolly doesn't need more of it. He prolly has enough to retire and just enjoy life. While its true that he realistically doesn't need more money (neither did Messi, Benzema etc) I still woulnd't blame him if he accepted the offer and went to Saudi Arabia. Don't get me wrong, I am definitely glad that he stayed in Real as that way he can help our national team better as well, but we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars here and I am sure many of us here would acceot the money, even if we already had tens of millions.
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66009461According to a bbcsport report Chelsea Kalidou Koulibaly had signed for a Saudi Arabian club Al-Hilal at fee reportedly worth £20m, recall Kalidou Koulibaly was signed by the Blues from Napoli last July having established himself as one of the best defender in Europe with the hope of playing for the next five season for the club, unfortunately that hope was dashed by his club abysmal performance in the league and UCL, he is the second Chelsea player heading to Saudi Pro league following the departure of Kante to Al-Ittihad and some Chelsea players like Hakim Ziyech and Mendy are also linked with a move to the Saudi Pro league in a bid by Chelsea to trim their squad for Pochettino to rebuild the team. It looks like Chelsea wants to build a new team with young players who are at least not more than 30 years old because some of the players released to the Saudi Pro League have reached the age of 30, of course this is a long-term strategy because Pochettino wants to make Chelsea not only a great team in just one or two seasons but longer than that, and releasing these players will be good for the club's finances because having a lot of players but not contributing anything is really detrimental because that happened to Chelsea last season, buying players at high prices but no achievements, and don't be surprised if you see more EPL players going there or players from other leagues going there. Chelsea want to rebuild their squad under new manager Pochettino and that's why they will sell the players who cannot able to give significant contribution for the team but indeed this summer Chelsea looks will sold a lot of players but their transfer behaviour looks very interesting because seems it was very effective and after gets Christopher Nkunku from Leipzig recently Chelsea has been reach an agreement with Villarreal player Nicolas Jackson And these players which i mention above is positioned as an attacker and they were displayed good performance and scores a lot of goals at their former teams before and apparently Pochettino know the weakness of Chelsea that's why he was attempts to strengthen Chelsea front lines and besides that Chelsea also has gets Ecuador wonder kid Kendry Paez and Chelsea are willing to pay 17 millions as transfer fee although Kendry Paez still 17 years old but Chelsea believe he is as one of the most talented player from Ecuador
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June 26, 2023, 03:34:26 PM |
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According to a bbcsport report Chelsea Kalidou Koulibaly had signed for a Saudi Arabian club Al-Hilal at fee reportedly worth £20m, recall Kalidou Koulibaly was signed by the Blues from Napoli last July having established himself as one of the best defender in Europe with the hope of playing for the next five season for the club, unfortunately that hope was dashed by his club abysmal performance in the league and UCL, he is the second Chelsea player heading to Saudi Pro league following the departure of Kante to Al-Ittihad and some Chelsea players like Hakim Ziyech and Mendy are also linked with a move to the Saudi Pro league in a bid by Chelsea to trim their squad for Pochettino to rebuild the team.
It's just matter of time until ziyech and mendy will have been reaching agreements with arabian clubs. The progress from mendy and ziyech are really positive at this moment. These players will be agreed to sign contracts with new clubs to play in saudi pro league. Massive transfer by chelsea to the arabian clubs has been truggering so many questions to come. Glad to see that arabian clubs have been making chelsea's work to be much easier. Chelsea must have removed a lot of players from the club. I hope that official announcement for ziyech and mendy will come soon.
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June 26, 2023, 03:36:55 PM |
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I don't think so, Gundogan is no longer young but his performance and quality are still very good and his protection is really needed by the Barcelona team, as we know now the Barcelona team is filled with many young players and they need motivation from senior players and Gundogan is a player who appropriate. Gradually we see Xavi building a much better Barcelona team and for next season I have no doubts after seeing the steps they have taken.
Barcelona are simply broke, they cannot spend much on players so they are collecting players free from any contract to lower their spending. Obviously Gundogan is a skilled player that can reinforce the midfield line after Busquets departure. Having seniors and juniors to learn from each others is a perfect thing but we should know that in 2 years there will not be Gundogan nor Lewandowski in Barcelona and they should count on other young players for the future of the team It looks like in the short term Barcelona will have serious problems because the finances are quite bad even though Barcelona really need reliable players to be able to perform well in the new season. It seems that in the next season Barcelona will lose its popularity. If not, Barcelona must immediately find a way to improve its finances by selling several players.
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June 26, 2023, 03:41:25 PM |
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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/26/SXKYI.pngMODRIC REJECTS A VERY LUCRATIVE DEAL FROM SAUDI ARABIAI saw this tweet from Fabrizio Romano about Luka Modric turning down an offer to play in Saudi Arabia which according to him it's one of the biggest deal ever in football. He's already 37 years old and he should begin to accept reality that he's no more young and energetic. I don't really watch most of Real Madrid matches but I did watch their game against Manchester City in the champions league, and Modric was a shadow of himself in both legs. It is still the player's decision to choose where he wants to ply his trade but I feel he's already a club legend and has won everything he needs to win at Madrid and would have accepted the deal. What do you think guys? Share your thoughts. He'll be legend always! Modric had received an offer to play in the Saudi Arabia league, but he decided to turn it down. Instead, 37-year-old Luka Modric signed a one-year contract extension with Real Madrid. He'd absolutely love to retire there, that would be great achievement for him. Not every great player chances to retire at their peak, while Modric might be one of them.
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According to a bbcsport report Chelsea Kalidou Koulibaly had signed for a Saudi Arabian club Al-Hilal at fee reportedly worth £20m, recall Kalidou Koulibaly was signed by the Blues from Napoli last July having established himself as one of the best defender in Europe with the hope of playing for the next five season for the club, unfortunately that hope was dashed by his club abysmal performance in the league and UCL, he is the second Chelsea player heading to Saudi Pro league following the departure of Kante to Al-Ittihad and some Chelsea players like Hakim Ziyech and Mendy are also linked with a move to the Saudi Pro league in a bid by Chelsea to trim their squad for Pochettino to rebuild the team.
It's just matter of time until ziyech and mendy will have been reaching agreements with arabian clubs. The progress from mendy and ziyech are really positive at this moment. These players will be agreed to sign contracts with new clubs to play in saudi pro league. Massive transfer by chelsea to the arabian clubs has been truggering so many questions to come. Glad to see that arabian clubs have been making chelsea's work to be much easier. Chelsea must have removed a lot of players from the club. I hope that official announcement for ziyech and mendy will come soon. Chelsea are experiencing a massive exodus of players. Kalidou Koulibaly has officially become the property of Al-Ahly and Kante belongs to Al-Ittihad. And then the two Blues players will also follow in the footsteps of their compatriots, Ziyech and Mendy will most likely also anchor in Arab lands. The departure of a number of important players in the Chelsea squad will certainly cause a variety of new problems. But Todd Boehly must have thought carefully and he also wants to trim his squad because he made a big transfer in the last transfer market. Chelsea under Pochettino will certainly start a new chapter, he will be inherited by a potential young squad and of course Boehly will have high hopes for them to be able to restore the glory of the Blues.
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What a legend. Won't allow himself to be compromised for money. It shows that money isn't his prime motivator. But then again he prolly doesn't need more of it. He prolly has enough to retire and just enjoy life. I once said, of all the Madrid players, all the attention tends to be on their superstar or we can say on the Striker who is always the focus. but of the many Madrid players, only Luca Modric has an extraordinary work ethic. he is even consistent in almost every season, even though there always goes ups and downs. Luca Modric has a work ethic that really deserves appreciation, both for Madrid and the Croatian national team. This man always gives his best performance. in fact, at the 2022 world cup Qatar. by the way I'm not a Madrid supporter, but as a neutral fan. Luca Modric deserves to be appreciated by the club even though his performance has decreased due to age. in fact, he respectfully turned down the offer to play in the Saudi Pro League and chose to remain in the service of El Real. Modric, is an extraordinary Madrid Legend. Anyway what do you guys think of Havertz's possible transfer to Arsenal for 65m GBP? I think it's good that Arsenal is splashing the cash but on Havertz? Don't get me wrong I think he's a good player but 65m GBP for a misfiring striker? I think he had less than 10 goals made last season... But yeah maybe Arteta saw something that we don't. Let's wait and see.
And there's some words swirling around that Jorginho could follow him. Dunno... But it does make sense for Chelsea to unload some players.
Speaking of Havertz, I'm completely confused by what Arteta is doing. however, it seems that he will never replace G.Jesus as the center forward. So, what do you think Arteta is planning? will he play on the wing, or will Arteta change his system and formation for next season. this is interesting, it could be that Arteta will make Havertz release his potential by playing with Arsenal. and I hope that happens as a Gunners fan.
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June 26, 2023, 05:29:01 PM |
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It's strange that Manchester City couldn't keep such a player, especially since Guardiola himself said that Gundogan is important for the team. Maybe it's really not about the money and Gundogan decided to take a chance and fulfill his dream to play for Barcelona.
Many big players have either Barcelona or Real Madrid as their dream team and will always value an opportunity to play in these clubs if an opportunity presents itself. For Gundogan, he has always loved Barcelona and since he has already been successful in Manchester City more than he could have imagined, this is a good time to play in Barcelona. Manchester City tried to keep him, and Arsenal were even interested in signing him, but amongst all these interest, he still moved to Barcelona on a free transfer. That can purely be out of love. He is a huge benefit to Barcelona next season even in the champions league and every other competition they play. Barcelona striker and top scorer in the La Liga last season Lewandoski will benefit a lot from Gundogan.
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June 26, 2023, 05:30:05 PM |
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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/26/SXKYI.pngMODRIC REJECTS A VERY LUCRATIVE DEAL FROM SAUDI ARABIAI saw this tweet from Fabrizio Romano about Luka Modric turning down an offer to play in Saudi Arabia which according to him it's one of the biggest deal ever in football. He's already 37 years old and he should begin to accept reality that he's no more young and energetic. I don't really watch most of Real Madrid matches but I did watch their game against Manchester City in the champions league, and Modric was a shadow of himself in both legs. It is still the player's decision to choose where he wants to ply his trade but I feel he's already a club legend and has won everything he needs to win at Madrid and would have accepted the deal. What do you think guys? Share your thoughts. He'll be legend always! Modric had received an offer to play in the Saudi Arabia league, but he decided to turn it down. Instead, 37-year-old Luka Modric signed a one-year contract extension with Real Madrid. He'd absolutely love to retire there, that would be great achievement for him. Not every great player chances to retire at their peak, while Modric might be one of them. This is really legendary and so important because now it is him who turned down an offer and also Lewandowski who turned own an offer. There are still some players who value their ambitions as a sportsman higher than money. That deserves a lot of respect because to be honest almost nobody would turn down offers that pay someone 100 million per year and even more than that. But if you look at these two players it is not really that surprising that it is Modric and Lewandowski who said no to those offers. I doubt that Kroos would go to Saudi Arabia. Not everyone is in it for the money although still I think it would be only a price question.
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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/26/SXKYI.pngMODRIC REJECTS A VERY LUCRATIVE DEAL FROM SAUDI ARABIAI saw this tweet from Fabrizio Romano about Luka Modric turning down an offer to play in Saudi Arabia which according to him it's one of the biggest deal ever in football. He's already 37 years old and he should begin to accept reality that he's no more young and energetic. I don't really watch most of Real Madrid matches but I did watch their game against Manchester City in the champions league, and Modric was a shadow of himself in both legs. It is still the player's decision to choose where he wants to ply his trade but I feel he's already a club legend and has won everything he needs to win at Madrid and would have accepted the deal. What do you think guys? Share your thoughts. He'll be legend always! Modric had received an offer to play in the Saudi Arabia league, but he decided to turn it down. Instead, 37-year-old Luka Modric signed a one-year contract extension with Real Madrid. He'd absolutely love to retire there, that would be great achievement for him. Not every great player chances to retire at their peak, while Modric might be one of them. Actually, it is surprising that he is still at his peak. He is someone who has been performing well for a long time, and even though he is pretty old right now, and we all know that he is already 37 years old. So in football, his time is coming to an end quite quickly. But he is still playing really well. I also have huge respect for him for not going to Saudi and instead extending his contract with Real Madrid. He knows very well that probably be in the next season. He's not going to get that type of deal. But he still wants to play in Real Madrid and at the top of the competition. The hunger of him to stay at the top of the food chain is unbelievable.
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June 26, 2023, 05:36:58 PM |
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The way I see it, Kai will be much of a liability than assets just like Maitland Niles was.
We cannot say that for sure, it has happened times without number that a player leaves a club that they were playing pretty bad and moved to a new club and started playing excellently well, it sometimes depends on the manager's style of play and the trust the manager has in the player. Arteta is a very good coach and i'm sure he feels Havertz would be important to achieve their goals next season, thus we have to wait and see how well he does before we can say if it's a good or bad decision.
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June 26, 2023, 05:44:42 PM |
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It's strange that Manchester City couldn't keep such a player, especially since Guardiola himself said that Gundogan is important for the team. Maybe it's really not about the money and Gundogan decided to take a chance and fulfill his dream to play for Barcelona.
Many big players have either Barcelona or Real Madrid as their dream team and will always value an opportunity to play in these clubs if an opportunity presents itself. For Gundogan, he has always loved Barcelona and since he has already been successful in Manchester City more than he could have imagined, this is a good time to play in Barcelona. Manchester City tried to keep him, and Arsenal were even interested in signing him, but amongst all these interest, he still moved to Barcelona on a free transfer. That can purely be out of love. He is a huge benefit to Barcelona next season even in the champions league and every other competition they play. Barcelona striker and top scorer in the La Liga last season Lewandoski will benefit a lot from Gundogan. Now Gundongan has a dream with Barcelona and that is why they left Manchester City even though they offered a contract extension but in the end it was the right decision for Gundongan and he also wants to have more experience with Barcelona. I knew there would be a lot of interest in Gundongan but he never had his eye on his only goal to go to Barcelona and play there. After they reached an agreement, Barcelona immediately released a very crazy clause of 400 million, of course with this Barcelona did not want other teams to snatch it in the middle of the season.
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June 26, 2023, 05:46:23 PM |
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Ruben Neves' signing for Al-Hilal is one of the most interesting deals I have seen lately. Because he is still 26 years old and this is normally a quite early age for a European decent player to sign for an Arabian team. But Al-Hilal have newly signed him for €55m transfer fee. I haven't seen the contract details but it must be tempting for Neves for sure.
Still I guess this transferring players at early age thing would be seen for only average level of players. I wouldn't expect any top player at young age to say yes to such teams. Because it wouldn't be good for their career no matter how much money they are offered.
Playing competitive for the Champions League title is the dream for most of such players in the end.
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