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July 29, 2023, 10:19:21 PM
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It’s a lot of money for a guy with 9 goals in a top 5 European League. He could turn out to be brilliant but I think it’s a very, very high price for potential. It’s not his fault, he doesn’t dictate transfer fees, it’s just a reflection of how distorted the current transfer market is I guess, crazy.

That was actually why Manchester United were reluctant to surpass the 60M mark, but with the way strikers are hard this days and the player determination to join them i think he would come good. But don’t get carried away United actually did a brilliant business because the 70m wasn’t a direct fee but many ad ons were included which would actually sum up to that 70m. For now I think they would pay around 60m and Rasmus Hojlund performance would probably be where the remaining part will be payed. So it is still a good business I hope he comes out good because the premier League is actually one hell of a place for strikers


250 million euro is a lot but 250 million euro transfer fee for Mbappe is not much. It would not be wrong to call Mbappe one of the best stars in the world today. Mbappe has improved his game considerably considering his age. Any club would want to sign him at his age. PSG set price for Mbappe I think this price is not high. And the price that has been set for this transfer is not Mbappe's Real Madrid team. Since PSG has set a transfer price for Mbappe, Mbappe's free agent membership may no longer be possible. If Mbappe cannot change the club as a free agent member, he can join Real Madrid this season if he wants to, because if he wants to change the club in the next season, he will have to pay the transfer fee and then change the team.

You’re getting this thing all entirely wrong. Here is an explanation; Mbappe’s contract ends next season which makes him a free agent. A free agent doesn’t pay any transfer fee to any club since he doesn’t has any club under his profile then. As for now he is still contracted to PSG and that is why they wish to sell him this summer so as not to lose him for Fred next season, since he doesn’t want to renew his contract or extend the one year option included in it. Why PSG are furious is because next summer they will have to pay him an agreed amount for seeing off his contract couple with the fact that they won’t get a dime as fee

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July 29, 2023, 10:25:16 PM
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United got Harry Maguire too for a high price. and West Ham's offer I think was clearly rejected at that price. although he won't get enough playing opportunities next season. but I still believe Harry Maguire can be Ten Hag's choice in United's defense even though he is not in the main squad. meaning Ten Hag can still use Harry Maguire as a substitute.
but maybe if West Ham or some other club made a better offer to United, it would definitely be another consideration for the club.
I don't think other Clubs will offer Maguire above £30m or only a few will offer above £20m. Maguire is indeed a big attraction for big teams in Serie A, but Manchester United will not get a more fantastic offer from the Serie A Team. Yes, if you look at West Ham offer, of course it is quite cheap, but I think the price is quite appropriate because Maguire is not at his best.

So, if you don't want to experience big losses, it means that Manchester United will find it difficult to find buyers for Maguire at the price they want. Because other teams won't spend a lot of money on players whose quality wasn't very good last season. Maguire also can no longer stand staying with Manchester United because he gets ridicule from Manchester United fans. I think he will leave the EPL and develop his qualities outside of the EPL next season.

I don't know why a club should pay 30m for a player like Harry Maguire with all the mistakes he had in this season and he is famous for his awful personal mistakes in Manchester United even I think one reason for Macnshter United losing the Europa League against Sevilla in this season was Maguire and his mistakes in that game he had.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/28/manchester-united-turn-down-20m-harry-maguire-offer-west-ham


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July 29, 2023, 10:50:06 PM
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Manchester United should just get rid of Maguire as soon as possible and look for a replacement. The replacement doesn't need to be a high-priced defender either because he is most likely to be a rotation player. While there are Varane and Martinez it isn't easy to get the shirt from any of them.

But they had better find a defender who they can rely on when there is an injury situation for the main defenders. Because we saw how Martinez and Varane both got injured at the same time for some time last season. They should be able to keep their defense solid in this situation too.

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July 29, 2023, 11:03:44 PM
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Chelsea according to Tuttosport has turned down Juventus' proposal to loan Belgium player Romelu Lukaku.

According to them, their intention is to sell him permanently.

If Chelsea want to let him go permanently then there is no agreement with Juventus because we know Juventus do not have enough funds moreover they also have to pay a fine around 20 million to FIFA. Lukaku will stay with Chelsea or let him go to the Saudi Pro League because only they are willing to contract him. I wonder why Juventus didn't use the swap option Dusan Vlahovic to Chelsea and Lukaku to Juventus this is the best solution especially Juventus will get additional funds.

Chelsea doesn't want to sell of one of their strongest strikers too soon, unless they can be confident that he has a better replacement upon the commencement of next season. The team is still finding form and finished with their worst performing matches last season.
Lukaku still has some good offer even if things don't work out well with him at Chelsea. Unlike Sadio Mane who has made his way to the Saudi league, am sure with the wages he received from being in the final of the champions league, his pockets would only attract bigger pay if he considers retiring there.

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July 29, 2023, 11:06:21 PM
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United got Harry Maguire too for a high price. and West Ham's offer I think was clearly rejected at that price. although he won't get enough playing opportunities next season. but I still believe Harry Maguire can be Ten Hag's choice in United's defense even though he is not in the main squad. meaning Ten Hag can still use Harry Maguire as a substitute.
but maybe if West Ham or some other club made a better offer to United, it would definitely be another consideration for the club.
I don't think other Clubs will offer Maguire above £30m or only a few will offer above £20m. Maguire is indeed a big attraction for big teams in Serie A, but Manchester United will not get a more fantastic offer from the Serie A Team. Yes, if you look at West Ham offer, of course it is quite cheap, but I think the price is quite appropriate because Maguire is not at his best.

So, if you don't want to experience big losses, it means that Manchester United will find it difficult to find buyers for Maguire at the price they want. Because other teams won't spend a lot of money on players whose quality wasn't very good last season. Maguire also can no longer stand staying with Manchester United because he gets ridicule from Manchester United fans. I think he will leave the EPL and develop his qualities outside of the EPL next season.

I don't know why a club should pay 30m for a player like Harry Maguire with all the mistakes he had in this season and he is famous for his awful personal mistakes in Manchester United even I think one reason for Macnshter United losing the Europa League against Sevilla in this season was Maguire and his mistakes in that game he had.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/28/manchester-united-turn-down-20m-harry-maguire-offer-west-ham


Harry Maguire was recruited by Manchester United from Leicester City in 2019 for a transfer fee of up to £ 87 million. So far, although still playing regularly and even being assigned to wear the captain's armband of the club, Maguire has not shown any value. The midfielder played very well at Leicester, but at Manchester United, he made mistakes, was slow on the ball, and was mentally unstable. With a price tag of £87 million, this must be a failed deal for the Old Trafford team. Now he is only valued at 20 million. Perhaps Manchester United has lost too much in this deal. Given the current situation, they should sell him to Saudi clubs. Maguire will be more valuable in this European arena.

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July 29, 2023, 11:15:43 PM
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Chelsea doesn't want to sell of one of their strongest strikers too soon, unless they can be confident that he has a better replacement upon the commencement of next season. The team is still finding form and finished with their worst performing matches last season.
Lukaku still has some good offer even if things don't work out well with him at Chelsea. Unlike Sadio Mane who has made his way to the Saudi league, am sure with the wages he received from being in the final of the champions league, his pockets would only attract bigger pay if he considers retiring there.

Lukaku is one of the best strikers in your opinion? otherwise I think Lukaku is an outcast striker he has been unwanted since arriving from Inter Milan due to his underperformance therefore in the second season he was loaned to Inter Milan and now Chelsea wants to let him go it's just that there have been no suitable offers. Holding Lukaku to stay at Chelsea means Chelsea will be financially burdened because they will continue to pay salaries until the contract over I'm sure Chelsea didn't want this situation the solution is to let him go especially he is no longer a young player.

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July 29, 2023, 11:22:59 PM
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If Chelsea want to let him go permanently then there is no agreement with Juventus because we know Juventus do not have enough funds moreover they also have to pay a fine around 20 million to FIFA. Lukaku will stay with Chelsea or let him go to the Saudi Pro League because only they are willing to contract him. I wonder why Juventus didn't use the swap option Dusan Vlahovic to Chelsea and Lukaku to Juventus this is the best solution especially Juventus will get additional funds.
That's why juventus must have sold vlahovic first. The only problem is how long to sell vlahovic to the another club? Juventus's proposal for lukaku was only to take him as a loan caused by the club can't afford to buy him due to the financial unstable.
Juventus had no choice other than selling vlahovic first then try to buy lukaku with permanent status. I think that juventus can sell vlahovic as soon as possible if the club will able to decrease his price a little bit.
This gonna be affecting the decision from the club as well. Selling vlahovic is a key for juventus to get fresh money from the another club to buy lukaku. Lukaku is better than vlahovic.
I think that juventus can try to talk with PSG regarding him. I remember that if PSG interesting to sign vlahovic from juventus as a replacement for mbappe. I think that juventus can take such opportunity to make PSG to by vlahovic.
Giving PSG small discount for him will be enough.

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July 29, 2023, 11:31:42 PM
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Harry Maguire was recruited by Manchester United from Leicester City in 2019 for a transfer fee of up to £ 87 million. So far, although still playing regularly and even being assigned to wear the captain's armband of the club, Maguire has not shown any value. The midfielder played very well at Leicester, but at Manchester United, he made mistakes, was slow on the ball, and was mentally unstable. With a price tag of £87 million, this must be a failed deal for the Old Trafford team. Now he is only valued at 20 million. Perhaps Manchester United has lost too much in this deal. Given the current situation, they should sell him to Saudi clubs. Maguire will be more valuable in this European arena.
I would like to see a Saudi club that in its right mind would offer 87 million pounds for Maguire Wink By the way, I have great sympathy for this footballer and even think that the main reason for Maguire's recent failures is that Ten Hag does not use him quite correctly or, to put it another way, the footballer does not fit into his playing model, just as it happened recently with De Gea. Therefore, I have some doubts that while Ten Hag will be the head coach of Manchester United, Maguire will constantly get a place in the starting lineup. Therefore, maybe the player should really change the club. The whole question is the price of the transfer and the player could still benefit and please the fans at another club in the English Premier League.
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July 29, 2023, 11:37:30 PM
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Manchester United have reportedly turned down an offer from West Ham of £20 million for Harry Kane Harry Maguire. For Manchester United, Harry Maguire may not be an option for the main squad anymore but they clearly want more money than that. We know that since being brought in from Leicester a few years ago at a cost of 87 million euros, Manchester United don't want to lose by selling Harry Maguire at that price, especially if you see West Ham making a lot of money after selling Declan Rice, they clearly want more than £20 million.
I think it was a reasonable offer from West Ham. Harry Maguire's market value is €20m, it is the same as the offer made by West Ham. If Man United wants to exclude him from the main squad, Man United must accept the offer although it is very far from the purchase price previously. I'm sure not many clubs interested in Maguire due to his bad performance. West Ham may change their mind if Man United rejected the offer, there are still many other good defenders. It is just nonsense if Man United wants a bigger money from West Ham because they sold Declan Rice at €116.60m. The offer on Maguire has nothing to do with Decline Rice transfer.  Grin

United declined the bid because West Ham United triggered such a low set price for Harry Maguire. The best thing to do, he's not garbage that can be picked up and dusted up, he's one of Old Trafford's most significant signings. Offering £20 million for Harry Maguire as if he were an emerging star, the player in question has featured in top countries games and has tested both UCL and European football. He's a total flop right now, but that doesn't mean he can't come back; he's a player, and as long as everyone works hard in practice, progress shouldn't be too tough.
It is not a low price, West Ham offers a deserved price. Check again Harry Maguire's market value now, it is €20m only.
He is clearly failed in Man United and has no chance to return to main squad. He even performed worse, so it is difficult to expect his come back. Another problem is Maguire not a young player anymore. At 30 years old, a player should be in their best form. If he can't perform well, the value will easily decrease significantly.


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July 29, 2023, 11:59:25 PM
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Manchester United should just get rid of Maguire as soon as possible and look for a replacement. The replacement doesn't need to be a high-priced defender either because he is most likely to be a rotation player. While there are Varane and Martinez it isn't easy to get the shirt from any of them.

I agree. There’s actually no need to keep Maguire on the team. At this point, any good defender would be a better replacement for him. When he was relived of the position of being the captain, he posted what I thought to be a not so happy post on Twitter. It’s almost like he was sobbing while writing it too hehe. With his performance in the club and during games, I was surprised he had the position for that long.
I particularly like Varane and think he’s a great defender.
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July 30, 2023, 12:05:07 AM
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Manchester United should just get rid of Maguire as soon as possible and look for a replacement. The replacement doesn't need to be a high-priced defender either because he is most likely to be a rotation player. While there are Varane and Martinez it isn't easy to get the shirt from any of them.
Westham already sent an offer for meguire but the club refuses to sell him to the westham. The reason is due to the low bid that being made by westham. It will be so difficult to sell meguire with high price at this moment consider how bad his performance.
Manchester united in the needs of money to buy hojlund from atalanta. If Manchester United wants to sell Harry Maguire, the main issue is that they are expecting to receive a high price for him, which is highly unlikely to happen.

But they had better find a defender who they can rely on when there is an injury situation for the main defenders. Because we saw how Martinez and Varane both got injured at the same time for some time last season. They should be able to keep their defense solid in this situation too.
Manchester united is now focusing in how to get a good striker rather than try to buy a new defender. The striker has become one of main problem since last season. I remember how bad the performance from weghorst last season was .
Almost no contribution that came from the striker's position which is very bad for manchester united. I expect MU to focus on getting a new striker rather than try to go to another position.

It's very important to have a good striker at this moment. It's caused by MU can only rely on the rashford that sometimes being rotated as a central striker.

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July 30, 2023, 12:17:58 AM
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Chelsea according to Tuttosport has turned down Juventus' proposal to loan Belgium player Romelu Lukaku.

According to them, their intention is to sell him permanently.
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Romelu Lukaku ruined his career for real in Europe. Inter was about to sacrifice big to bring him but the fact they see him contacting Juventus, was an act of treason for them. He lost Inter, Champions League games eventually and with the new sanctions on Juve, I think his move there is over. I agree that Saudi Arabia or maybe Turkish or American leagues might get a little bit interested on him.

Kane, Hojlund and Vlahovic are listed as candidates to play with PSG. Dunno why it took them much time to decide which player to bring? I mean Vlahovic price isn't that big comparing to Kane for exemple.

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July 30, 2023, 02:12:10 AM
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Manchester United should just get rid of Maguire as soon as possible and look for a replacement. The replacement doesn't need to be a high-priced defender either because he is most likely to be a rotation player. While there are Varane and Martinez it isn't easy to get the shirt from any of them.

Getting rid of Maguire isn't the main issue here, in as much as the player Maguire is not having a great time at Manchester United doesn't mean they should just let him go too soon. Why I said that is because UTD are not even good at sealing a deal in the next 2 weeks, they can't even seek for a better defender.
They can't get any business done as soon as possible so I don't think getting him off is a good idea at this point in time until they're ready to scout properly for a defender.
With Martinez and Varane as pairs is not %95 ok as we all know Varane as an injury prone player so they can't be trusted, that's why I said is best to get a replacement before letting Maguire go.
And UTD are just not ready this season, the defensive department is not up to the task at hand and I just feel for the goalkeeper Onana.

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July 30, 2023, 02:59:19 AM
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Now Rasmus Hojlund can join in the pre-season matches Manchester United still have 3 matches remaining which can help him adapt quickly before the real season started,
Manchester United team finally have a striker that they have been needing to relieve Sancho and Rashford the responsibility for the next season. But as normal with it for every new player in a big club, he has to meet the expectations of the club supporters by doing the job which he was brought to the club to do which is to score goals. He will be expected to fit in right away into the Manchester United team and start scoring goals. Any performance less of that will be a huge disappointment to everyone who has been waiting to see this transfer work.

And even if he doesn't performs as expected, Marcus Rashford can definitely fill in to cover up until he adapts.  It's also the main reason for Erik Ten Hag to fight to keep Greenwood.  The lad is a weapon at the front of goal only of he is working with the right coach and set of midfielders to support him. Another back up player for that central role is Antonio Martial, he's been appreciated for his quality but can't give hundred percent because he is prone to injury.

Lately,  Sancho has been experimented in that role and he does fit in but not exactly what Manchester United fans expected.

Gettinride of legends who represented with them all and all was easily achieved.  Maguires value has reduced if we're not being shady, he's of no importance to Manchester United.  Parting ways would be the best decision right now else he has no room to showcase himself for the coach. T's not the season to do that, Manchester United would do everything to win the Premier League.

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July 30, 2023, 03:13:47 AM
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My guess was right. It doesn't even matter how high hojlund's price being given by atalanta but MU will always try to get him. Finally, hojlund will be going to the manchester united very soon. The agreement already made and i guess if he gonna go through medical test next week.
It seems like that manchester united has additional funds to buy the new players since MU was not selling a lot of players from its club. Many people were hyping this transfer. My hope for him, he will not be another flop like weghorst.

Manchester united has paid a lot for him. It will be very disappointed if his performance will be as bad as weghorst. Manchester united really needs a new figure to fill the striker position. that's why ten hag is rushing to get hojlund no matter what happened with the financial of club.
Finally, ten hag's target was already achieved. Ten hag can now start to improve the quality of its club. I don't even expect if the completion of hojlund's transfer gonna this fast.
Congrats for MU.

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July 30, 2023, 03:31:11 AM
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Manchester United should just get rid of Maguire as soon as possible and look for a replacement. The replacement doesn't need to be a high-priced defender either because he is most likely to be a rotation player. While there are Varane and Martinez it isn't easy to get the shirt from any of them.

I agree. There’s actually no need to keep Maguire on the team. At this point, any good defender would be a better replacement for him. When he was relived of the position of being the captain, he posted what I thought to be a not so happy post on Twitter. It’s almost like he was sobbing while writing it too hehe. With his performance in the club and during games, I was surprised he had the position for that long.
I particularly like Varane and think he’s a great defender.
It does look like Manchester United wants to sell him but I don’t think they really want him to leave. Besides Harry Maguire intends to stay at Manchester United and fight for his place, in the wake of the club rejecting a £20m offer from West Ham. From the look of things, Moyes wants to recruit Maguire, but after their opening offer was knocked back by Manchester United, it seems they are unlikely to return with an improver bid, down to Maguire's wage demands.
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July 30, 2023, 04:27:31 AM
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Quite interesting to hear about Hojlund being worth that much. To be fair I have never heard of him before this transfer deal and I am sure more hardcore fans knew about him way before, so I am just a casual fan, don't really know many players from Atalanta. However, the reality is that we are talking about a situation where a player that is not known by casuals like me being worth a 70 million deal. In any case, I hope they find whatever they are looking for in him, I always thought Rashford was good enough as a striker and did alright, wasn't any rush to find anyone like this, but if they believe he will be good then they believe it will be good, that's all that matters.

Hojlund is actually a young and potential striker. Still, it is debatable whether it is Manchester United quality. In my opinion, Hojlund is a player who could be a substitute or alternative forward for Manchester United. If he has a career like Haaland and can keep up with the Premier league, we will see that Manchester United has more than paid for the risk. Apart from that, the fact that it is a risky transfer is obvious.

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July 30, 2023, 04:59:49 AM
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My guess was right. It doesn't even matter how high hojlund's price being given by atalanta but MU will always try to get him. Finally, hojlund will be going to the manchester united very soon. The agreement already made and i guess if he gonna go through medical test next week.
It seems like that manchester united has additional funds to buy the new players since MU was not selling a lot of players from its club. Many people were hyping this transfer. My hope for him, he will not be another flop like weghorst.

Manchester united has paid a lot for him. It will be very disappointed if his performance will be as bad as weghorst. Manchester united really needs a new figure to fill the striker position. that's why ten hag is rushing to get hojlund no matter what happened with the financial of club.
Finally, ten hag's target was already achieved. Ten hag can now start to improve the quality of its club. I don't even expect if the completion of hojlund's transfer gonna this fast.
Congrats for MU.
85 millions is saga transfer for the player who still 20 years old but Ten Hag was really impress to his performance which make he was insist want to gets Rasmus Højlund and before this transfer happend Højlund himself had verbal agreement with Manchester United because he was very interested to long term project which offered by Manchester United and he will gets 5 years contract until 2028 with extension option until 2029 and apparently Højlund will be the final pieces of Ten Hag strategy

On the other hand Sociedad are thinking possibilities to loan Donny van de Beek from Manchester United that they will attempts to negotiation with Manchester United to talking about this option and i think loan could be good option for Donny van de Beek because at Manchester United he struggled to get more minutes to play moreover long term injured make van de Beek was unable to performing well besides that the arrival of new player just Like Mason Mount will make him always being an a substitution player

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July 30, 2023, 05:29:53 AM
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85 millions is saga transfer for the player who still 20 years old but Ten Hag was really impress to his performance which make he was insist want to gets Rasmus Højlund and before this transfer happend Højlund himself had verbal agreement with Manchester United because he was very interested to long term project which offered by Manchester United and he will gets 5 years contract until 2028 with extension option until 2029 and apparently Højlund will be the final pieces of Ten Hag strategy

On the other hand Sociedad are thinking possibilities to loan Donny van de Beek from Manchester United that they will attempts to negotiation with Manchester United to talking about this option and i think loan could be good option for Donny van de Beek because at Manchester United he struggled to get more minutes to play moreover long term injured make van de Beek was unable to performing well besides that the arrival of new player just Like Mason Mount will make him always being an a substitution player
Spending a whooping amount of Rasmus Hojlund who barely 20 years is a bad idea. He's a youngster and Atalanta valued him to be very expensive, that's just the terrible idea between these Seria A clubs. They ways offered players at hugh sum because these players are hyped. Manchester united is ready to pay €85million for the Denmark international, the deal slightly to be completed. Erik Ten Hag is ready to bring in the new striker, he's good and knows basically how to position in front of goal, signing such a long-term contract is beneficial for the red devils. 

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July 30, 2023, 05:39:46 AM
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Chelsea doesn't want to sell of one of their strongest strikers too soon, unless they can be confident that he has a better replacement upon the commencement of next season. The team is still finding form and finished with their worst performing matches last season.
Lukaku still has some good offer even if things don't work out well with him at Chelsea. Unlike Sadio Mane who has made his way to the Saudi league, am sure with the wages he received from being in the final of the champions league, his pockets would only attract bigger pay if he considers retiring there.

Lukaku is one of the best strikers in your opinion? otherwise I think Lukaku is an outcast striker he has been unwanted since arriving from Inter Milan due to his underperformance therefore in the second season he was loaned to Inter Milan and now Chelsea wants to let him go it's just that there have been no suitable offers. Holding Lukaku to stay at Chelsea means Chelsea will be financially burdened because they will continue to pay salaries until the contract over I'm sure Chelsea didn't want this situation the solution is to let him go especially he is no longer a young player.
Lukaku has passed his golden age as a footballer, he has contributed greatly to Inter Milan reign before moving to Chelsea. His decision to move to Chelsea has killed his career, he is increasingly dimmed due to not being able to bring out all his abilities. He has not been able to find his best performance after returning to Inter Milan on loan, Chelsea want to sell Lukaku immediately but Inter prefer to use Lukaku services as a loan player.

Chelsea had made the wrong decision when signing Lukaku from Inter Milan in the summer of 2021 for £97.5 million, Lukaku purchase breaking Chelsea record for the most expensive transfer at the time. Chelsea is trying to find a club that is willing to accommodate Lukaku for the desired price. It is reported that Milan has prepared £34 million in funds to redeem Lukaku services, this price is in accordance with what Chelsea wants, who no longer want to hold Lukaku any longer.

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