migello
|
|
July 03, 2017, 12:31:34 AM |
|
just an update from the safenet forums:
Post of David Irvine (MaidSafe)
"@Viv and I were at a couple of meetings last weekend and Alex from CoinPayments was there and said the NVO team would try and use spare time between them progressing and us launching to help there. We said of course, but suggested some mechanism to help that happen would be required. Routing for example is way to much to jump into (for most). So we think there will be willing on both sides to get some further help. I think that it would be great if ICO type raises on particular networks did use capacity themselves to "fund" core development. It would be a nice model that I have seen elements of in c++ etc. (boost) but even just this kind of offer is a good start. So @tonbi it will be very helpful if this all happens, best of luck and here's to a fair tail wind.
Lets all hope it helps us improve speed of delivery or testing etc. It's not easy to plug devs into safe core libs, but it's not impossible either, we need to get better at it so this will be good from that perspective to. "
Reply from Nemgun:
"Hi @dirvine, Alex told us about your meeting, and about the great updates, for now i am ocnsolidating the dev team and try to find versatile developers, i always ask for two conditions, knowledge about blockstream and safenet, i talked to a dev team, i won't give their name but i have their principle agreement, i made an offer as their development is close to be finished in exchange, they will assign their developers to the project for some hours a day, and tasks, this will be financed by nvo, in the objective to provide support to maidsafe and to try to synchronise both projects. Effectively the developers aren't easy to find, so as soon as i finish the consolidation of our dev platform, and have a good visibility and check for their proffessionalism (i don't want anyone of them to leave us on the way) i will ask maidsafe for a meeting to see what we can do. It will be up to maidsafe to take the final decision. I also want to say that, as a member of NVO, we really want to support maidsafe, so, do not hesitate to contact us when you have time, it would be a great pleasure to work with you."
Things are getting more and more interesting
|
|
|
|
ArcherBit
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
|
|
July 03, 2017, 07:42:49 AM |
|
how to check my token on my counterwallet.io account?..
|
|
|
|
SHossain
Member
Offline
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
|
|
July 03, 2017, 12:24:05 PM |
|
how to check my token on my counterwallet.io account?..
Read before you ask the same question already been answered plenty of times in the last few pages. There is a link to check your tokens from Counterpary blockchain explorer. The tokens are not distributed yet. Keep an eye on the thread or join their Slack channel for up to the minute information.
|
|
|
|
boldar
|
|
July 03, 2017, 08:33:51 PM |
|
I sent the btc from my trezor wallet, now wondering if I will receive the tokens or not ;S
You may receive them but they would be unusable, as Trezor wallet does not seem to handle counterparty tokens. And even though you technically own the private key, you can't sweep the address in the Counterparty wallet, because Trezor does not reveal the actual private key value. Please see this page as posted by tonbi on slack: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfC5CQ4djZan9Gs2WATAnQXtYnecSyAD2fIP6bKGDc5HwiwOA/viewformLooks like you need to hurry and fill it out with your info - hopefully they'll be able to do something and send your tokens to another address you'd need to provide To late, I already PM'd bittick a full guide on how to retrieve his tokens. Trezor DOES reveal the actual private key value. Thanks for trying to help, But no thanks .
|
|
|
|
boldar
|
|
July 03, 2017, 08:39:39 PM |
|
I sent the btc from my trezor wallet, now wondering if I will receive the tokens or not ;S
You may receive them but they would be unusable, as Trezor wallet does not seem to handle counterparty tokens. And even though you technically own the private key, you can't sweep the address in the Counterparty wallet, because Trezor does not reveal the actual private key value. Please see this page as posted by tonbi on slack: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfC5CQ4djZan9Gs2WATAnQXtYnecSyAD2fIP6bKGDc5HwiwOA/viewformLooks like you need to hurry and fill it out with your info - hopefully they'll be able to do something and send your tokens to another address you'd need to provide To late, I already PM'd bittick a full guide on how to retrieve his tokens. Trezor DOES reveal the actual private key value. Thanks for trying to help, But no thanks .
|
|
|
|
Allo
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
|
|
July 03, 2017, 10:34:33 PM |
|
I sent the btc from my trezor wallet, now wondering if I will receive the tokens or not ;S
You may receive them but they would be unusable, as Trezor wallet does not seem to handle counterparty tokens. And even though you technically own the private key, you can't sweep the address in the Counterparty wallet, because Trezor does not reveal the actual private key value. Please see this page as posted by tonbi on slack: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfC5CQ4djZan9Gs2WATAnQXtYnecSyAD2fIP6bKGDc5HwiwOA/viewformLooks like you need to hurry and fill it out with your info - hopefully they'll be able to do something and send your tokens to another address you'd need to provide To late, I already PM'd bittick a full guide on how to retrieve his tokens. Trezor DOES reveal the actual private key value. Thanks for trying to help, But no thanks . Care to share how to reveal TREZOR private key? I do know you could use your 24-word seed in some software or website to have the key re-generated using BIP 39, but that's not a very safe thing to do if you want that seed and key to remain a true secret. As a last resort though - i.e. just to get it over with and later reset the device with a new seed - yeah, it could be done.
|
|
|
|
nemgun (OP)
|
|
July 03, 2017, 11:11:08 PM |
|
Can someone from devs/managers/moderators answer me this:
My Personal bitcoin address is my electrum BTC address. I deposited via Jaxx in ETH and now I see some ETH balance when I login to nvo.io
When/where/how will I receive NVO tokens?
I already sent email to support team but no answer.
Hello, thanks for participating, i don't see any problem in what you did, you will receive the tokens to the Electrum address, just ensure that you backed up the private key.
I sent the btc from my trezor wallet, now wondering if I will receive the tokens or not ;S
Join us on slack ASAP : https://nvoinvite.herokuapp.com/Once there, DM @martob
For reasons of security in relation to distribution, and due to the errors of our investors, we had set up codes to filter the addresses of exchanges and other services, but we can not ensure optimal filtering because we do not We do not know the working method of all exchanges and services. We ask our kind investors who have made mistakes, please check the files below: Altcoins only https://nvohq.slack.com/files/marto/F62JETMME/altstats.csvIf they do not contact us in the next 8 hours we will not be able to change the distribution. Because we put warnings and other notifications and guides in relation to the crowdsale. We give them the possibility to rectify these errors either by PM on bitcointalk or by slack. Because I take care of bitcointalk with my only pseudo, nemgun, @marto on slack, do not consult anyone else except us. After these eight hours we will send close to 14258500 NVST. Investors who have committed the error of sending from an exchange or another service and who do not follow the guides, will have to forward their UserID TransactionID Email address ID skype and their time zone either via bitcointalk by sending me a PM Or by slack by sending a DM to @marto. In order to set up appointments on skype to prove transactions from the exchange, updating the history page of the exchange in order to prove the sending. Exchange issues will be recorded until July 9th, since the distribution is in place from 1 to 7. This resolution is only applicable to people who will not find their transaction in the following list: Bitcoin only https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O_YomnCDW4J04x07L7LGNf2fJ4F2eAhwy55szyhzDHk/edit?usp=sharing
|
|
|
|
AlteregoX
|
|
July 04, 2017, 12:40:03 AM |
|
Sent you a PM
|
|
|
|
CHESSMANY3K
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
|
|
July 04, 2017, 05:05:20 AM |
|
I sent my payment with BTC from my trezor wallet. At the time I was not aware that I could not see my private keys. I then opened a counterwallet, opened an issue1 ticket on slack and asked that the NVST be posted to my counterwallet. Ive also sent multiple DM's to Marto. The transaction id is fdcf3e96636d050d1fb2baad51d412fa88fcb9f04a5b817df03e5de59ba132c0 . I am not able to skype. Some one please advise as I do not see my transaction on the BTC spreadsheet, however it is on the BTC blockchain with 955 confirms.
|
|
|
|
SEnergy
Member
Offline
Activity: 101
Merit: 10
|
|
July 04, 2017, 06:15:19 AM |
|
well, according to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917456.msg19826834#msg19826834the total amount sent over to the BTC paid addresses should be (1590.919664 / 3055.120324) * 15000000 = 7811081.86559267 however according to the sum of all "to be sent" NVSTs in the csv file you just attached it's 7074197.307, https://pastebin.com/rTEcXkx3I guess the rest is of those who sent from exchange or don't have privkey by other means however... I just found some of the larger investors, for example this one https://blockchain.info/tx/1e0965e29be4fbb45b904992196ef8c7b097ed4548fc3c7b06081f3cab796d31and according to the math, he's supposed to be getting (3.994 / 3055.120324) * 15000000 = 19609.70228549 NVST, however he's getting "only" 19609.19088767, I know, it's not that much of a difference, it's actually ~99.99739212% (looking at other investments it's probably the same) which means that roughly 15000000 - 0.9999739212*15000000 = 391.182 NVST are either lost, or went to the "late investors" (from this sheet only) not trying to flame or anything, I just love math and am a little bit uneasy when numbers don't add up... aaand using this code https://pastebin.com/1MvRb3cL on the CSV you can see that supposedly none of the payouts actually match up (more.csv and normal.csv are blank), according to this total amount of distributed NVSTs is 99.997392117% of supposed amount
|
|
|
|
|
DigitalNinja
|
|
July 04, 2017, 07:59:20 AM |
|
My TX is not on the BTC list because it was 10 mins late i think. So i could do with a refund lol
|
|
|
|
kickback
Member
Offline
Activity: 249
Merit: 62
|
|
July 04, 2017, 08:14:03 AM |
|
My TX is not on the BTC list because it was 10 mins late i think. So i could do with a refund lol yes give them the tx and get your money back.This project may not succeed because maidsafe is not proven,validator is not proven,Lightning network will make all this obsolete in the future anyway. When tokens are listed on exchange Investor will be angry when people are buying them cheaper than he paid.This is not fud it is reality.Devs should explain this to their investors.How will they protect the price to make sure it is not below ICO price when listed.Do they have plan? If they have plan good but if not its tumbleweed town.
|
|
|
|
DigitalNinja
|
|
July 04, 2017, 08:34:52 AM |
|
My TX is not on the BTC list because it was 10 mins late i think. So i could do with a refund lol yes give them the tx and get your money back.This project may not succeed because maidsafe is not proven,validator is not proven,Lightning network will make all this obsolete in the future anyway. When tokens are listed on exchange Investor will be angry when people are buying them cheaper than he paid.This is not fud it is reality.Devs should explain this to their investors.How will they protect the price to make sure it is not below ICO price when listed.Do they have plan? If they have plan good but if not its tumbleweed town. Yeah i have Pmd Nemgun, im sure they will refund me when he looks at his pm's. Bit gutted i havnt been included tbh so hopefully i can buy cheaper on the exchanges :-)
|
|
|
|
HyperLup
|
|
July 04, 2017, 08:52:12 AM |
|
I've invested some we look forward some upcoming news
|
|
|
|
nemgun (OP)
|
|
July 04, 2017, 09:18:57 AM |
|
well, according to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917456.msg19826834#msg19826834the total amount sent over to the BTC paid addresses should be (1590.919664 / 3055.120324) * 15000000 = 7811081.86559267 however according to the sum of all "to be sent" NVSTs in the csv file you just attached it's 7074197.307, https://pastebin.com/rTEcXkx3I guess the rest is of those who sent from exchange or don't have privkey by other means however... I just found some of the larger investors, for example this one https://blockchain.info/tx/1e0965e29be4fbb45b904992196ef8c7b097ed4548fc3c7b06081f3cab796d31and according to the math, he's supposed to be getting (3.994 / 3055.120324) * 15000000 = 19609.70228549 NVST, however he's getting "only" 19609.19088767, I know, it's not that much of a difference, it's actually ~99.99739212% (looking at other investments it's probably the same) which means that roughly 15000000 - 0.9999739212*15000000 = 391.182 NVST are either lost, or went to the "late investors" (from this sheet only) not trying to flame or anything, I just love math and am a little bit uneasy when numbers don't add up... aaand using this code https://pastebin.com/1MvRb3cL on the CSV you can see that supposedly none of the payouts actually match up (more.csv and normal.csv are blank), according to this total amount of distributed NVSTs is 99.997392117% of supposed amount Nice snippets, even if the precision isn't 100%, at least it is really close to, the problem here is due to the decimals of each crypto, ethereum for example had to be counted with 18 decimals, ripple with 6, litecoin dash doge with 8. We tried to be as close to the 100% as possible.
Regarding what TonBi said, we refused to let him invest into the crowdsale in order not to fake the volume, we ask him to wait for the end of the crowdsale, so, he will refund with his personal funds. So he is more a customer for the investors. Do not forget to check the post :
For reasons of security in relation to distribution, and due to the errors of our investors, we had set up codes to filter the addresses of exchanges and other services, but we can not ensure optimal filtering because we do not We do not know the working method of all exchanges and services. We ask our kind investors who have made mistakes, please check the files below: Altcoins only https://nvohq.slack.com/files/marto/F62JETMME/altstats.csvIf they do not contact us in the next 8 hours we will not be able to change the distribution. Because we put warnings and other notifications and guides in relation to the crowdsale. We give them the possibility to rectify these errors either by PM on bitcointalk or by slack. Because I take care of bitcointalk with my only pseudo, nemgun, @marto on slack, do not consult anyone else except us. After these eight hours we will send close to 14258500 NVST. Investors who have committed the error of sending from an exchange or another service and who do not follow the guides, will have to forward their UserID TransactionID Email address ID skype and their time zone either via bitcointalk by sending me a PM Or by slack by sending a DM to @marto. In order to set up appointments on skype to prove transactions from the exchange, updating the history page of the exchange in order to prove the sending. Exchange issues will be recorded until July 9th, since the distribution is in place from 1 to 7. This resolution is only applicable to people who will not find their transaction in the following list: Bitcoin only https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O_YomnCDW4J04x07L7LGNf2fJ4F2eAhwy55szyhzDHk/edit?usp=sharing
|
|
|
|
Icoalert00
|
|
July 04, 2017, 09:21:53 AM |
|
is this ico still on going? if not will the participants get their stakes this week?
|
|
|
|
Lauda
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
|
|
July 04, 2017, 09:37:44 AM |
|
is this ico still on going?
1) It is not an ICO, it is a crowdsale 2) In the title of the thread it clearly says "CrowdSale Ended". If not will the participants get their stakes this week?
The only right answer is: Maybe.
|
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" 😼 Bitcoin Core ( onion)
|
|
|
timmyzhl
|
|
July 04, 2017, 09:52:42 AM |
|
The progress of this project is still very fast, there is no trading platform news, hand chips, eager to participate in the transaction
|
|
|
|
DigitalNinja
|
|
July 04, 2017, 10:26:11 AM |
|
@Nemgun Please address my PM i sent you earleir. Cheers
|
|
|
|
|