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Author Topic: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟  (Read 170129 times)
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November 16, 2017, 03:27:26 PM
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So where do we get a refund here?Deadline has not been met and it said secured by SAFE network.If it is not being secured by SAFE network then this is false and misleading anyway so the whole thing becomes invalid.I hope those bitcoins are still there because I want full payment back in bitcoin along with the BCH attached to those coins and I mean the exact same amount of bitcoins not any fiat equivalent.


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November 16, 2017, 05:03:48 PM
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This is just sad. You are just embarrising yourself by making it clear you somehow have a problem with this project on a personal level.

Yes very sad indeed - how dare someone try to warn others from getting scammed. So I 100% have an issue w/ anyone that is a con artist on a personal level and will do whatever possible to warn others. If you all think that SEC and FBI aren't keeping an eye on these boards and the token ICO craze than your delusional. It's only a matter of time before regulations are issued and investigations are made public. If you think you are so clever to where you cant be prosecuted or found than once again dream on. Anyone that steals millions of dollars will be made a target due to the fact there is enough financial incentive to put resources into finding you and your crew of thieves. Whether your hiding in Algeria or anywhere else. If the appropriate agency thinks they can claw back a few million out of you they will most def come after you.

This is likely one of multiple accounts used by the same person or group of people associated with the ongoing NVO and Xenio scams.

Tone, Nemgum and Alexander are all associated publicly with these scams.  The slack channel has multiple paid shills or the same person using multiple accounts.

Anyone with an ounce on intelligence can read thru the links provided and the chat history on slack and judge for themselves.

Lastly, the wallet you all continue to shill is a joke at best. Even if you issued some make shift wallet it doesn't matter at this point with your well established scummy history. You all have millions of dollars and failed to issue very basic proof of any type of work.

Be safe everyone - look at the facts dont listen to the broken promises shilled.

Here is the original NVO token listing that never happened, read thru the forum and see how unprofessional and downright scummy the NVO team is... they even plead to have the forum deleted from public viewing.

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608

Here is the other scam from same group - same developer same scummy marketer Alexander.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2142127

I will continue to post and tweet and contact the SEC and FBI and whatever i need to until this blatant fraud stops.

Contact the SEC and FBI Huh People get into crypto to avoid government regulations. Unfortunately for people like you, there is no patience. You lose a bit of money and then you go running for government assistance. Why did you get into crypto to begin with? Oh wait, you're one of those people who thought that you'd become a millionaire overnight, aren't you. Did you invest with money that you couldn't afford to lose? Did you also not diversify your investment? Stop your whining and suck it up. You only lose money when you sell. If you haven't sold anything, then you haven't yet lost anything. NVO will succeed. When developing a project of this magnitude, it takes time. I would rather the developers take longer to deliver a quality project than rush and put out a shitty one. In the future, only invest money that you can afford to lose, then you will be able to be more patient and you won't end up panic selling like most of the newbies out there.

Hey thanks for the advice cryptokid now let me teach you a lesson - I am likely much older than you and have a good understanding of how investing money goes and am highly educated. I didn't lose any money at all on this scam, I put a relatively small sum in initially on the fact the token was using counterparty and seemed decent enough based off the little info that was available at the time. After more or less forgetting about it for a month I checked back in and started reading thru their slack channel and thru these forums and quickly saw how ridiculous it was to think these guys have a clue on how to build anything at all except a poorly managed scam. Only those with little to no reading comprehension would be swayed for a moment by the story given at this point. Do you really think developers would take 6 months to release a wallet after being backed with millions of dollars? If so you are sadly mistaken and very naive.

The SEC and FBI will be in the crypto space to the best of their abilities regardless if you like it or not so might as well get ready. Why would the agencies tasked with protecting the citizens from scams not be looking into the most lucrative investment asset class at the moment? Also why would the country whose currency you are trying to scam people for not come after you to claw back those funds that would go into their own agencies funds? Welcome to reality. The SEC has already said that tokens issued are more or less securities. The guys involved here will all be in prison at some point. Could be a year or could be several years but they will get caught whether it's related to this project or another scammy idea they try to play.  Better yet they will cross the wrong person one day and get dealt with the old fashioned way.

If they aren't in the USA then the FBI and SEC have no reason to look into it. Right? So I guess you'll be leaving now right champ?
It's funny how people with no understand of either the real world nor the crypto world actually try to spread this kind of FUD.

They don't even know why decentralized exchanges are important at this point but try to pretend that US authorities could actually do anything to take them down...
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November 16, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
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So where do we get a refund here?Deadline has not been met and it said secured by SAFE network.If it is not being secured by SAFE network then this is false and misleading anyway so the whole thing becomes invalid.I hope those bitcoins are still there because I want full payment back in bitcoin along with the BCH attached to those coins and I mean the exact same amount of bitcoins not any fiat equivalent.




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November 16, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
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So where do we get a refund here?Deadline has not been met and it said secured by SAFE network.If it is not being secured by SAFE network then this is false and misleading anyway so the whole thing becomes invalid.I hope those bitcoins are still there because I want full payment back in bitcoin along with the BCH attached to those coins and I mean the exact same amount of bitcoins not any fiat equivalent.




I wish.  We would be up by soooo much, but it will never happen.
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November 16, 2017, 11:51:45 PM
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Ton did say that the next time he gets on slack, the wallet would be released.  When this will be.... who knows...
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November 17, 2017, 01:30:56 AM
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SCAM ALERT

a fake NVO ERC20 token have been released on etherdelta!!!

is a scam,

the NVO token is NVST and is a counterparty token!!!



http://nvotoken.ga/ is a scam site!!!

Are you serious, man this sucks I bought 90000 NVO from ether delta.

i think he is serious about this,, because NVO already in coinmarketcap,,
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nvo/#markets
and there is only counterparty DEX listing this token not etherdelta,,

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November 17, 2017, 02:37:00 AM
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Anyone know exactly what is going on with the wallet delays?

Could we just get a provisional wallet at least while waiting for the proper one if there are still some GUI or technical details that the devs want to work out? Would like to see something at least since it has been quite a long time now.
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November 17, 2017, 03:21:09 AM
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Anyone know exactly what is going on with the wallet delays?

Could we just get a provisional wallet at least while waiting for the proper one if there are still some GUI or technical details that the devs want to work out? Would like to see something at least since it has been quite a long time now.

I urge you to have a good read here:
https://steemit.com/xenio/@prisoneroflies/due-diligence-on-nvst
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November 17, 2017, 04:05:01 AM
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Good luck team. Just waiting for some github commits here.
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November 17, 2017, 04:16:47 AM
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CrowdSale ended. Congratulation with NVO, I wanna joining your signature campaign, so I have reserved your threat until my status be eligible.
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November 17, 2017, 05:00:13 AM
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Ton did say that the next time he gets on slack, the wallet would be released.  When this will be.... who knows...

...Searches for skeleton meme....
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November 17, 2017, 07:53:10 AM
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Interesting, keep my eye on
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November 17, 2017, 05:37:05 PM
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Where are all these fudders coming from? This is honestly ridiculous because the team is continuously active on slack. The last time ton was on slack (yesterday) he said the wallet would be released the next time he signed on. Theyre obviously working on the wallet and ran into a few issues which would become a problem when integrating the decentralized exchange. I think everyone needs to calm down and let the team do their work.
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November 17, 2017, 05:41:34 PM
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So what I gather so far here:

* The ICO was a shitshow due to poor instructions and guidance - the very first part of the project was a total clusterfuck
* NVO has missed - by large margins - every deadline or estimate they've given.  "Days away" has turned into months, for example.  
* NVO has been terrible at communicating and has no central source of information or updates - and can't be bothered to update the one official place they have (their website)
* NVO has provided literally no proof of any work or accomplishments so far
* No one knows anything about any of the developers except that some are also involved in other similarly unfinished/non-responsive projects

Does that sum up where we are?

Outside of blind faith, what is the trust-in-NVO argument based on?  What have the developers shown you that suggests they can:

* Build the NVO exchange
* Develop an actual clientele and address the various customer service and other issues that will come up
* Make it profitable and bring in consistent revenues
* Reliably deliver the shares of profits to NVO Token holders
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November 17, 2017, 07:38:34 PM
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So what I gather so far here:

* The ICO was a shitshow due to poor instructions and guidance - the very first part of the project was a total clusterfuck
* NVO has missed - by large margins - every deadline or estimate they've given.  "Days away" has turned into months, for example.  
* NVO has been terrible at communicating and has no central source of information or updates - and can't be bothered to update the one official place they have (their website)
* NVO has provided literally no proof of any work or accomplishments so far
* No one knows anything about any of the developers except that some are also involved in other similarly unfinished/non-responsive projects

Does that sum up where we are?

Outside of blind faith, what is the trust-in-NVO argument based on?  What have the developers shown you that suggests they can:

* Build the NVO exchange
* Develop an actual clientele and address the various customer service and other issues that will come up
* Make it profitable and bring in consistent revenues
* Reliably deliver the shares of profits to NVO Token holders

I actually thought the ICO was fine, people just can't follow directions in cryptoland.
Deadlines do tend to get missed in software engineering though, and they do have hard evidence of progress.
Their communication definitely could be better, maybe like a weekly update on the website or something.  Just a paragraph here and there would go a long way.
I've heard that there are more than just two devs on the project (they hired more with the ICO funds).
Hopefully they can bring everything you noted below to the table.

It's good to hear other perspectives, maybe we can get some others to chime in.
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November 17, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
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So what I gather so far here:

* The ICO was a shitshow due to poor instructions and guidance - the very first part of the project was a total clusterfuck
* NVO has missed - by large margins - every deadline or estimate they've given.  "Days away" has turned into months, for example.  
* NVO has been terrible at communicating and has no central source of information or updates - and can't be bothered to update the one official place they have (their website)
* NVO has provided literally no proof of any work or accomplishments so far
* No one knows anything about any of the developers except that some are also involved in other similarly unfinished/non-responsive projects

Does that sum up where we are?

Outside of blind faith, what is the trust-in-NVO argument based on?  What have the developers shown you that suggests they can:

* Build the NVO exchange
* Develop an actual clientele and address the various customer service and other issues that will come up
* Make it profitable and bring in consistent revenues
* Reliably deliver the shares of profits to NVO Token holders

I actually thought the ICO was fine, people just can't follow directions in cryptoland.
Deadlines do tend to get missed in software engineering though, and they do have hard evidence of progress.
Their communication definitely could be better, maybe like a weekly update on the website or something.  Just a paragraph here and there would go a long way.
I've heard that there are more than just two devs on the project (they hired more with the ICO funds).
Hopefully they can bring everything you noted below to the table.

It's good to hear other perspectives, maybe we can get some others to chime in.

This guy actually thinks that being a few weeks late on software is a big deal? So many people have never lived in reality. Anytime you have a project, stuff goes wrong and issues come up.

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November 17, 2017, 09:47:01 PM
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This guy actually thinks that being a few weeks late on software is a big deal? So many people have never lived in reality. Anytime you have a project, stuff goes wrong and issues come up.

Yes, and good developers & companiescommunicate openly and honestly about it. Do *you* have any experience in the business world? Delays are inevitable - lack of communication is generally an indication of deeper problems.

Again, I stated the case against NVO.  Instead of simply criticizing, why don't you try to make the affirmative case for them?  What they have done well thus far?  What evidence have they provided for your faith?  What metrics have they met successfully?  Seems like it's a lot easier to criticize the critics, but much tougher to justify the faith.
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November 17, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
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Well let's see:

- Long list of unfinished projects.
- Escrow funds long gone from the multi-sig address
- Self-proclaimed genius nemgun, with no codes, no github profiles to show for it
- Misleading ICO investors by claiming partnership, endorsement, affiliations that are not true.

And so far - every single deadlines has been missed.

And you trust them?
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November 18, 2017, 01:13:33 AM
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So what I gather so far here:

* The ICO was a shitshow due to poor instructions and guidance - the very first part of the project was a total clusterfuck
* NVO has missed - by large margins - every deadline or estimate they've given.  "Days away" has turned into months, for example.  
* NVO has been terrible at communicating and has no central source of information or updates - and can't be bothered to update the one official place they have (their website)
* NVO has provided literally no proof of any work or accomplishments so far
* No one knows anything about any of the developers except that some are also involved in other similarly unfinished/non-responsive projects

Literally all of the major red flags of a scam.

I think people are so blinded by how much profits they were promised, that they refuse to believe that they aren't going to be filthy stinking rich, and are in so much denial that they made a bad decision, that they're making up excuses FOR the devs.

I know it. I was one of them until recently. The coin promises to be SO profitable, that people bend over backwards to defy logic, so they don't feel that awful sting of knowing they got conned hard.
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November 18, 2017, 01:30:40 AM
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This guy actually thinks that being a few weeks late on software is a big deal? So many people have never lived in reality. Anytime you have a project, stuff goes wrong and issues come up.

Yes, and good developers & companiescommunicate openly and honestly about it. Do *you* have any experience in the business world? Delays are inevitable - lack of communication is generally an indication of deeper problems.

Again, I stated the case against NVO.  Instead of simply criticizing, why don't you try to make the affirmative case for them?  What they have done well thus far?  What evidence have they provided for your faith?  What metrics have they met successfully?  Seems like it's a lot easier to criticize the critics, but much tougher to justify the faith.


I might have a little experience in the business world with my supply chain management degree, my prior experience working for a fortune 500 and my business that I've owned for the last two year.

 They only took 9% of the first escrow payout, they were entitled to 1/3. They are using an escrow, they keep updating slack and we keep seeing the wallet in action. Now tell me, why did you make a newbie account to troll this forum? Are you with some crappy competitor?

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