Evolution is a hoax

[Sesochi Maspinto]

There is a lot of misinformation in this field. Btw, if someone want to believe in some old guy in the sky, let him in his illusion.

I agree: anyone has the right to believe what makes him confortable

[ducnh1022]

I got a funny analogy
We are just ape that successful segWit
So gene is just code
We decide to hard-fork (keep old code but add some changes)
And luckily (just lucky), we won (just in our mind)

[Astargath]

The only thing about evolution that is true is that there indeed is a theory of evolution. Evolution as reality is a complete hoax.

If badecker, the guy who didn't even know what entropy is, didn't know what a scientific theory meant and posts links that contradicts what he says, says so, it must be true, right?  

But since BADecker knows what entropy is and what scientific theory means, the things he says can be trusted as absolute truth.

No you don't because you thought Evolution violated the second law of thermodynamics and you were wrong. You also have said more than once (It's just a theory) Like that would be a bad thing, clearly because you didn't understand what a scientific theory meant. I can find these posts if you want to.

You know very well that the idea that a scientific theory is fact hasn't even reached the status of theory, yet. It probably isn't even a hypothesis.

What? Do you even try to make sense when you post here? As I said, you were wrong numerous times, with entropy, not knowing what a scientific theory meant, you were wrong about irreducible complex systems and many many more, stop embarrassing yourself.

What's the matter? You want to stop me from posting. Why? Are you really afraid that your whole life would crumble if you dared to look at truth?

You say lots of stuff. This is a forum. That's the way you participate. It doesn't make what you say correct, or even close.

Anybody can look up entropy all over the Net and in the text books to see that I am right about it.

Anybody can look up irreducible complexity to see that the contradictions to it are a mass of convoluted, meaningless blabber.

Anybody can look up the word "theory" to see that it is something that isn't known to be factual. Can you find even one piece of fact or scientific fact that shows that scientific theory is fact and not unknowns?

As I said, scientific-theory-as-fact has not, itself, even been put into theory form, to try to prove if any object of any scientific theory can be known to be factual. After all, common knowledge is that science fact is called science law, not science theory.

Nobody knows that scientific theory is fact. If we don't know, believing scientific theories to be factual is a religious response. When you state that evolution theory is factual, or that big bang theory is factual, or that black hole theory is factual, or that relativity theory is factual, you are taking those things into the realm of religion. Why? Because faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not known.

Stop talking religion, and start talking science. The second law of thermodynamics states that entropy, a measure of randomness, cannot decrease in a isolated system. Our planet is not a isolated system.



Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.

Same with creation. Creation fits, because evolution doesn't. Evolution theory might fit, but it has been rebutted in as many ways as it stands, by the simple fact that 100% of the science that evolution theory says proves evolution to be real, can fit things other than evolution, and can fit these other things better.

Evolution is a dream. It is science fiction. When it is promoted as being factual in the face of all the things that are against it, it is a hoax. It might not have been a hoax in the days of Darwin. But with all the science that contradicts it nowadays, evolution has become a big fat hoax.

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind

[trikru]

We didn't exactly evolve from the monkeys you see now. They are different species from what we evolved from! STOP SPREADING FAKE NEWS!

[Vod]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

Why is there still white milk now that chocolate milk has been invented???

[gabmen]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

Why is there still white milk now that chocolate milk has been invented???

Lol! That's a very lame argument about monkeys and there's been several points that makes sense that explains why there still are monkeys. Is there even a more logical explanation aside from evolution? Logical meaning taking magically springing from dirt out of it.

[BADecker]

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

[twthmoses]

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

What does not fit? Still have not found anything that does not fit evolution. You know evolution takes time! lots of time.

[Astargath]

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

What does not fit? Still have not found anything that does not fit evolution. You know evolution takes time! lots of time.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. I already showed him many times that he is wrong, as you can see he doesn't even acknowledge anything and keeps saying the same idiotic things.

[BADecker]

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

What does not fit? Still have not found anything that does not fit evolution. You know evolution takes time! lots of time.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. I already showed him many times that he is wrong, as you can see he doesn't even acknowledge anything and keeps saying the same idiotic things.

Again, three of the many things that prove that evolution is impossible are:
1. Math probability;
2. Irreducible Complexity;
3. The complexity of universal cause and effect, without pure random ever being proven anywhere = no mutations that really have not been programmed into the universe.

Google "proof that evolution fails" or any other words that look for that proof.

Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that evolution is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove evolution simply by stating in many different ways that evolution is fact, without showing any real proof.

Evolution scientists have been looking for proof of evolution since before Darwin. Over that time, they have redefined all kinds of things because they can't find proof for evolution anywhere that hasn't been rebutted. Currently, part of their definition of evolution includes that evolution is mere change, just so that they can say that evolution is fact, because change is fact.

Evolution is a complete hoax. And scientists who would otherwise be honest, are proving that evolution is a hoax by twisting the idea around so extremely much, because they so want evolution to be true.

[Ailmand]

There has been no definite evidence to prove these theories at all. Shouldn't all monkeys have evolved to being man by now.

Man evolved from a species of monkeys which for some reason felt the need to get down from the trees and walk the earth. Everything else was triggered by this. The rest of the monkeys didn't need to get down to the ground and you can see most of them living happily up there in the tree tops to this day. It was probably some circumstance specific to where the proto-humans lived and which wasn't present anywhere else. Just the same way as there are amazonian tribes who still haven't set foot into the 11th, let alone the 21th century.

The evolution process actually took millions of years, and it is due to many different prevailing circumstances then that may or may not exist now. That's the thing about evolution. It is not always the same because it can be affected by so many different factors.

[czhen]

I do not believe in the theory of evolution.
because it's just a theory and has not proved real.
if indeed the theory of evolution is true then its name is not the theory but the law of evolution

[Vod]

Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that god is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove god simply by stating in many different ways that god is fact, without showing any real proof.

People who believe in different physical laws for different situations are nothing more than hypocrites.

[noelwenceslao03]

In my own opinion, evolution is a hoax because of my religious beliefs. I believe that it was God who directly and immediately created human in His own form, and not thru different species.

[Astargath]

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

What does not fit? Still have not found anything that does not fit evolution. You know evolution takes time! lots of time.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. I already showed him many times that he is wrong, as you can see he doesn't even acknowledge anything and keeps saying the same idiotic things.

Again, three of the many things that prove that evolution is impossible are:
1. Math probability;
2. Irreducible Complexity;
3. The complexity of universal cause and effect, without pure random ever being proven anywhere = no mutations that really have not been programmed into the universe.

Google "proof that evolution fails" or any other words that look for that proof.

Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that evolution is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove evolution simply by stating in many different ways that evolution is fact, without showing any real proof.

Evolution scientists have been looking for proof of evolution since before Darwin. Over that time, they have redefined all kinds of things because they can't find proof for evolution anywhere that hasn't been rebutted. Currently, part of their definition of evolution includes that evolution is mere change, just so that they can say that evolution is fact, because change is fact.

Evolution is a complete hoax. And scientists who would otherwise be honest, are proving that evolution is a hoax by twisting the idea around so extremely much, because they so want evolution to be true.

Here we go again, like a broken record.

1. http://answers-in-reason.com/religion/mathematical-impossibility-evolution-debunked/
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB940_1.html


2. In the post you quoted it seems you missed these links:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


3. Yes Zeus programmed everything. By the way, even if I agree with you and god programmed everything, evolution would still exist lul.

Funny thing is that most religious people actually accept evolution as true. Even pope Francis and many more have stated that evolution is true. he said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

Anyone who knows anything about Catholic history knows that a statement like this is nothing new. Pope Pius XII wrote an encyclical “Humani Generis” in 1950 affirming that there was no conflict between evolution and Catholic faith. Pope John Paul II reaffirmed that, stressing that evolution was more than a hypothesis, in 1996. Pope Benedict XVI hosted a conference on the nuances of creation and evolution in 2006.

You are one of the few nutjobs that still claim evolution is not true.

[Vod]

Here we go again, like a broken record.

Do you notice how all his "arguments" are just circular?

I can change a few words in anything he posts to "prove" almost anything is real.

He just repeats these arguments over and over without providing actual proof of anything.

 

[Astargath]

Here we go again, like a broken record.

Do you notice how all his "arguments" are just circular?

I can change a few words in anything he posts to "prove" almost anything is real.

He just repeats these arguments over and over without providing actual proof of anything.

 

Specially when he tries to prove god, his arguments could be used to prove any kind of god and when I tell him that he always says: why are you bringing religion into this?? and his

[popcorn1]

There has been no definite evidence to prove these theories at all. Shouldn't all monkeys have evolved to being man by now.

Man evolved from a species of monkeys which for some reason felt the need to get down from the trees and walk the earth. Everything else was triggered by this. The rest of the monkeys didn't need to get down to the ground and you can see most of them living happily up there in the tree tops to this day. It was probably some circumstance specific to where the proto-humans lived and which wasn't present anywhere else. Just the same way as there are amazonian tribes who still haven't set foot into the 11th, let alone the 21th century.

The evolution process actually took millions of years, and it is due to many different prevailing circumstances then that may or may not exist now. That's the thing about evolution. It is not always the same because it can be affected by so many different factors.

That's the thing about evolution. It is not always the same because it can be affected by so many different factors...

Lets stop stupid peoples from saying stupid things..

Examples below..

You fell now the fact you fell how did you fall?..Many ways you could of fell..

Now evolution..

How did Mars evolve ?
How did a tree evolve?
how did that spot evolve on your body?

Now the fact you are using the word EVOLVE meaning how did it come to be in other words
many many things can evolve with many different theories just like when you fell how did you fall?

Now imagine you fell and died and we had to guess how you died we would be using science theories
and test to see how you fell and died ..But the fact you FELL..
How and where is more questions we need to find out ..

So how did the moon evolve?

So how did humans evolve?..And that's why we say EVOLUTION THEORIES ..
Evolution theories is not just about humans ..How did many things EVOLVE..

Just the same as using the word FELL ..

Imagine a guy walks in hospital with a scrape on his head and then he drops dead..
You know he fell where and how is now the ANSWER?..

Well the same with EVOLUTION THEORIES we know the EARTH made us but how where and when is not
known yet and will we ever know?..Maybe if aliens had a video recorder and watched us in beta max.

So we know for fact the earth made us by DNA ..It's a fact we evolved on this earth ..
How and where is yet to be answered with EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

Just like someone who fell and died ..The fact he fell    how and where is yet to be answered ..

Evolution is a fact ..just the same as fact is a fact..

[wxxyrqa]

Here we go again, like a broken record.

Do you notice how all his "arguments" are just circular?

I can change a few words in anything he posts to "prove" almost anything is real.

He just repeats these arguments over and over without providing actual proof of anything.

 

Specially when he tries to prove god, his arguments could be used to prove any kind of god and when I tell him that he always says: why are you bringing religion into this?? and his

The fact is that almost every supporter of this or that thought can not fully argue their income. I would like everyone to leave their thoughts to themselves and give peace to this or that person. I completely agree with you, but Freedom of choice must exist and give Faith to every person.

[twthmoses]

Again, three of the many things that prove that evolution is impossible are:
1. Math probability;
2. Irreducible Complexity;
3. The complexity of universal cause and effect, without pure random ever being proven anywhere = no mutations that really have not been programmed into the universe.

Google "proof that evolution fails" or any other words that look for that proof.

Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that evolution is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove evolution simply by stating in many different ways that evolution is fact, without showing any real proof.

Evolution scientists have been looking for proof of evolution since before Darwin. Over that time, they have redefined all kinds of things because they can't find proof for evolution anywhere that hasn't been rebutted. Currently, part of their definition of evolution includes that evolution is mere change, just so that they can say that evolution is fact, because change is fact.

Evolution is a complete hoax. And scientists who would otherwise be honest, are proving that evolution is a hoax by twisting the idea around so extremely much, because they so want evolution to be true.

I don’t get it? Mutations goes on, on a daily basic!

You don’t look like your father right? You might have different hair color, different shoe size, might be taller, slimmer, run faster, be a better (or worse) athlete, wider face, longer finger, longer legs etc. And that is just the physical changes. There is a whole range of mind changes going on also. This is just the obvious changes. You got an even amount of hidden changes, which will not be obvious right away.

This is just one generation. Imagine 1000 or 100.000 generations.

Now changes themselves are not enough. There are 3 rules that need to become true in order for changes to become permanent in any society.
1) It needs to give you an edge in the mating game. It can be every so good a change, if it does not allow you to prorogate better or at least equal good, it is worthless.
2) It needs to be beneficial for society; two head might think twice as fast, but if society is scared of you, it is no good.
3) The lucky game. Just because you for fill 1) and 2), does not mean your offspring will. Right back to the start of this writing; you don’t look like your father! If your offspring does not carry it on in equal positive manner, it’s just a dead end.

This goes on every single day, for 10 million newborns. Changes are everywhere, permanently changes are one in a million, and takes many many 10.000 of years.